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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:49 am 
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This friend of mine read the game and got motivated and wants to get good with girls. With all the evolution of pick up since the mystery method, what is the best way lo learn game now?
maybe read magic bullets, maybe getting some rsd products and viewing their vids on youtube, etc?
(apart from going out regularly obviously)


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:13 am 
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This friend of mine read the game and got motivated and wants to get good with girls. With all the evolution of pick up since the mystery method, what is the best way lo learn game now?
maybe read magic bullets, maybe getting some rsd products and viewing their vids on youtube, etc?
(apart from going out regularly obviously)

In-field practice bro.

There is something called paralysis through analysis.... meaning you try and OVER learn something and when you go to actually use it, you freeze up.

None of the shit you read about or watch will make sense or become reality until you implement it into your own life.


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 5:54 am 
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I know bro, but theory comes before practise, its like the fuel and car analogy (i heard it from rsd tyler).
If you are a car who is getting fuel and fuel and fuel but its not running then the fuel is gonna split out and the car is going to explote. This is the guy who only watches theory but never goes out. But my point is, if you are a car you need fuel to run and ideally you want to be a racing carwhich is using tons of fuel.
My point is theory without practice is useless, but practice without theory not very usefull either, or better said, is much more usefull with the correct amount of theory behind. So i ask again, which is some good theory to read when you are a newbie?


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Most PUA is junk. That said, the only one I'd go with is that Owen guy (RSD?) as he seems pretty legit and uses a lot of Eckhart Tolle's ideas to become a better person. But seriously, most of it means nothing without going out there and breaking a few eggs.


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In-field practice bro.

There is something called paralysis through analysis.... meaning you try and OVER learn something and when you go to actually use it, you freeze up.

None of the shit you read about or watch will make sense or become reality until you implement it into your own life.
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I know bro, but theory comes before practise, its like the fuel and car analogy (i heard it from rsd tyler).
If you are a car who is getting fuel and fuel and fuel but its not running then the fuel is gonna split out and the car is going to explote. This is the guy who only watches theory but never goes out. But my point is, if you are a car you need fuel to run and ideally you want to be a racing carwhich is using tons of fuel.
My point is theory without practice is useless, but practice without theory not very usefull either, or better said, is much more usefull with the correct amount of theory behind. So i ask again, which is some good theory to read when you are a newbie?
Yes, you are correct that going out and practicing without having ANY theory in your head probably isn't the best way to get good, but let me put this in perspective for you to illustrate what Majikal was saying:
What do you think would be better, going out and practicing talking to girls and never reading any theory OR reading all the theory and never talking to any girls?
Clearly, going out and talking to girls and never reading any theory is better because you actually have a chance to get good in real life.

Now, obviously I'm just making a point here. You're right that you should read some theory. BUT, don't read more theory than you have to. If you are just beginning, read a few openers, get a tease or two in your head and maybe a role play and then GO OUT and practice it. When you have a decent handle on that, read some stuff about qualification and statements of intent and GO OUT and practice that. Small chunks. DO NOT overload your head with more than you can really use RIGHT NOW. No point in reading about LMR when you can barley open a set.

As far as which is some good theory to use when you're a newbie,
It doesn't really matter that much. Thats a little subjective. I personally like Sinn's stuff (seeing as how I learned directly under him), Brad P, AFC Adam. Those are good guy with good content.
But whatever you read or study, make sure you go out and practice whatever you read or studied immediately and don't read past where you are at skill level-wise.

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:08 am 
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I get that practice is essential but surely people can recommend an reading order they reckon newbies should start IN CONJUNCTION with going out and practicing?


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:48 am 
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I get that practice is essential but surely people can recommend an reading order they reckon newbies should start IN CONJUNCTION with going out and practicing?
I think Style's the Game works well as long as you treat it for what it is; a journey, not a instruction manual. There's a lot you can game from it but keeping in mind that Style is constantly growing from beginning to end of the book to beyond that, and you'll have someone to visualize on your journey with you.


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:19 am 
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The problem with PU theory is that all authors claim that they have the 1 and only answer for all possible cases and all women and that turns things into complete BS.

So I would recommend you to choose one system, the one that goes better with your personality, stick to it and practice it for a couple of months. Just learn it as a system and do not buy its BS theory, because PUAs tend to sell its ideas as universal laws of behavior.

I like to think that PU should be learned as a language, you choose which language to learn first and then you go out of the classroom and try to talk to people. Not everybody is going to understand the language you are learning, but you'll be able to have some chit chat with the once who do speak it.
Yet if you want to learn one sentence of each different language, you'll end up confused and not going to be able to talk to anybody.

Remember the purpose of learning a language is to talk to people, not to make everybody like you. The same with PU, you learn it to meet women, not to make all of them wanting to have sex with you.


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Since having discovered and read Style's The Game I've been reading Kezia Noble's material. You can find some of her videos on YouTube also. I really enjoy her approach to not just pick-up but social interaction, making connections and male/female psychology. It's a fresh perspective from a female in an otherwise male-dominated community.


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Since having discovered and read Style's The Game I've been reading Kezia Noble's material. You can find some of her videos on YouTube also. I really enjoy her approach to not just pick-up but social interaction, making connections and male/female psychology. It's a fresh perspective from a female in an otherwise male-dominated community.
Style is the man... But Kezia is GARBAGE. Once you actually apply pick up theories and techniques, none of her shit makes sense. Almost any other guy out there who makes videos to put on youtube, I can relate to what they are saying because I've been doing this for long enough and have developed references of my own to relate to those experiences, so what they are saying, regardless of how contradictory one might be to the other, it still all makes sense... But Kezia is wack.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 am 
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The best way to learn game is to watch pick up example videos on youtube. Watch it done by the experts then go out and practice it for yourself. Just type "pick up women" into youtube and tons of example videos will come up. Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRMa-6Z8mPM


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The best way is to go out and practice in field. I recommend embarking on a specific course of action. Take up the stylelife challenge from Strauss's Rules of the Game. This will keep you on the right path.

I also recommend keeping a journal, and tracking the number of approaches you have done. This will help your subconscience. Once you get to a big number, you will realize approaching is no big deal.


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mystery method, 4 elements of game, etc. lots of good stuff out there, but none are substitutes for practice

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I have worked cold approach sales for 2 years and Pua is exactly the same. You just gotta go out and do it. Eventually you will find a system that works best for you. Youll have lines/stories/ used to much that it will come to you naturally. At that point you will be able to focus more on DHV/DLV/IOIs as you observe the girls reaction/bodylanguage and more. There are alot of different systems to pick up, I think as long as you master one and have a game plan before approaches youll be fine. Its linear progression... Dont give up and just keep at it. Even if you have a dry spell, just keep going out there

Also if you can find a good wingman(which is hard as hell) itll be good because you can motivate eachother.


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look into RSD and basically go out as much as you can, RSD is by far the most up to dat company.


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