Back to her place but asked to leave: when to make the move?



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:05 pm 
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I met this girl that I already know a bit but with whom nothing happened so far.

She had been asking for a possible meetup more than once.

PARK AND WAY HOME
We went to the park, she brought most of the picnic gears and I was (a bit) late as usual.
We sat and drank wine for like 30 mins.
It started raining so she proposed a pub, I proposed my place but then we settle for hers as she had left the windows open.

She had to wake up at 6, so I said "damn, does it mean I have to wake up at 6 as well?".
I wasn't even thinking about the implications, it just came natural to ask :D and she said "you won't stay for sure", but then added "I can give you spare keys".

ON THE TRAM
In the 1st tram she was standing really really close to me.
On the 2nd tram we were sitting, I had the biscuits between my legs and when she took one she smiled and said "smart move" hinting at the fact she had to reach close to my crotch to get one.

HER PLACE
At her place she lightens the candle, she says to "make the SPAM, but nothing will happen don't expect anything". I said "I don't expect anything". Maybe I should have shut up .
I sat on a couch, she slouched to another one in front.

She asked if I was seeing someone, I said "nobody in particular". She was seeing someone, and wasn't sure if she wanted it to get more serious.

A couple of times we just looked at each other and she raised the eyebrows twice, quickly, an expression I've never seen but that I interpreted as a possible IOI for a move.

We were talking, and I thought about making a move when the bottle of wine was at around half (didn't feel like taking the risk to possibly break the mood too soon and possibly being asked to leave, I wanted to enjoy the wine/food at least a bit :) ).
But she lit up a joint, which I only later realized had no tobacco in it and was really strong.
A bit high and drunk, I didn't think much about the sexual escalation thinking it might have naturally morphed into just moving to bed together.
She was high and not much sexual tension after that. Soon after she got terribly sleepy.

BOOTED OUT
I realized my time was over too late, when she got up to check the tram connections.
I said "oh, you're kicking me out", to which she replied she had to wake up really early.

I invited her to sit with me more than once, even got up to extend my hand a bit while she walked away from the PC. Insisted a bit, not too desperately I believe , but nothing by then.
The good mood and vibe was totally gone, just a tired girl now.

At the door I lingered on for the hug to go for a kiss, but nothing, as I expected.

Waiting for the tram I thought about a last attempt text saying I would have liked to sleep there, but deemed it as desperate and left it there.


YOUR OPINIONS
When would you have done the move?
Park, too soon I thought.
Good vibes in the tram, both cool and relaxed, sipping the wine. Maybe I could have put my arm around her while we were sitting close?
Writing her now, the day after, or leave it like this?

I'd appreciate your opinions :).


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:57 am 
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I met this girl that I already know a bit but with whom nothing happened so far.

She had been asking for a possible meetup more than once.

PARK AND WAY HOME
We went to the park, she brought most of the picnic gears and I was (a bit) late as usual.
We sat and drank wine for like 30 mins.
It started raining so she proposed a pub, I proposed my place but then we settle for hers as she had left the windows open.

She had to wake up at 6, so I said "damn, does it mean I have to wake up at 6 as well?".
I wasn't even thinking about the implications, it just came natural to ask :D and she said "you won't stay for sure", but then added "I can give you spare keys".

ON THE TRAM
In the 1st tram she was standing really really close to me.
On the 2nd tram we were sitting, I had the biscuits between my legs and when she took one she smiled and said "smart move" hinting at the fact she had to reach close to my crotch to get one.

HER PLACE
At her place she lightens the candle, she says to "make the SPAM, but nothing will happen don't expect anything". I said "I don't expect anything". Maybe I should have shut up .
I sat on a couch, she slouched to another one in front.

She asked if I was seeing someone, I said "nobody in particular". She was seeing someone, and wasn't sure if she wanted it to get more serious.

A couple of times we just looked at each other and she raised the eyebrows twice, quickly, an expression I've never seen but that I interpreted as a possible IOI for a move.

We were talking, and I thought about making a move when the bottle of wine was at around half (didn't feel like taking the risk to possibly break the mood too soon and possibly being asked to leave, I wanted to enjoy the wine/food at least a bit :) ).
But she lit up a joint, which I only later realized had no tobacco in it and was really strong.
A bit high and drunk, I didn't think much about the sexual escalation thinking it might have naturally morphed into just moving to bed together.
She was high and not much sexual tension after that. Soon after she got terribly sleepy.

BOOTED OUT
I realized my time was over too late, when she got up to check the tram connections.
I said "oh, you're kicking me out", to which she replied she had to wake up really early.

I invited her to sit with me more than once, even got up to extend my hand a bit while she walked away from the PC. Insisted a bit, not too desperately I believe , but nothing by then.
The good mood and vibe was totally gone, just a tired girl now.

At the door I lingered on for the hug to go for a kiss, but nothing, as I expected.

Waiting for the tram I thought about a last attempt text saying I would have liked to sleep there, but deemed it as desperate and left it there.


YOUR OPINIONS
When would you have done the move?
Park, too soon I thought.
Good vibes in the tram, both cool and relaxed, sipping the wine. Maybe I could have put my arm around her while we were sitting close?
Writing her now, the day after, or leave it like this?

I'd appreciate your opinions :).

It seems as if you were waiting for a "golden opportunity" to do something. You have to escalate physically by starting off with hands and shoulders. Touch her face. Then you can kiss her. Then let your hands wander. Touch her legs and ass. Eventually the clothes start coming off and you move to her bed room. Appreciate her whole body is basically what I'm telling you. Girls HATE awkward moments. You going in for a kiss without touching her at all the rest of the night definitely would have been an "awkward moment" and she would have rejected it.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:18 am 
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The very first moment you start wondering, "hmmm maybe I should kiss her," there's a reason you're wondering that. It's because you feel something--a vibe. If you feel it, she feels it too, and by the time you get to wondering about kissing her, she's either expecting it or thinking the same thing.

So next time you start to wonder--just go for it in that exact moment, and don't let yourself talk you out of it. Make sense?

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:56 pm 
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She now says she doesn't want to see me again "after my very inappropriate behaviour".
And after I asked if I had left the corkscrew and mints there she says she thrashed the mints.

Do you guys think it's a question of "self rejection/distorted remembering"?
I absolutely didn't force things physically at all except for going for the awkward kiss at the door when I already knew it was too late but even there, backed off immediately.

Still, this reaction seems to me way over the top even considering the psychological distortion.

I wouldn't want it to affect me too much but if there's something that bothers me is having people feel bad because of me and here she comes blaming me for "very inappropriate behaviour", but who invites a guy home with a wine and then gets all worked up for a move?
It's actually affecting me, and not because I lost a chance, but because of what she's accusing me of...



How would you reply?
Make a joke if she also wants to make a Macumba on the corkscrew, or telling her what she's saying is unfair or... ?


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:22 pm 
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then gets all worked up for a move?
It's because you made a "move."

You want to make it seem as if she is initiating EVERYTHING.

You've already creeped her out at this point lol move onto the next one.


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