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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:23 am 
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Last night I went out on my first night game sarge. All with the best intentions of opening as many sets as I could, to just go in head first. Once I'd gotten over my initial AA, with the help of mr Jim Beam, I opened a couple of sets, had some good chats etc...
The problem ive found is that I have no contingency. A couple of occasions I found myself saying something stupid, or negging incorrectly, and got bad responses. And when that happened I automatically start apologising, and AFC'ing all over the place, it must have been horrible to watch. Also, i discovered i am no where near ready to deal with AMOGS yet. I hate them! I was talking to one girl, probably a 9. Absolutely gorgeous, we're having a really good chat (we discovered we were on the same course at uni), and this drunk guy comes along, pretty much whispers cheesy chat up lines in her ear, and takes her from under my nose.

But there was one girl who I got on well with, worked all my routines on, escalated kino kind of well, except when I tried to xclose. She told me she was not ready to do anything like that with anyone coz she'd just broken up with her bf. And I could tell she was being sincere so I didnt mind. But I could also tell she was really attracted to me so Im counting it as a success.

So, just wanted to share my first night experience. Ive definitely got a lot of practice to do. Self-esteem slightly lowered, but oh well.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:16 pm 
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Always remember that negs should be fun, not harsh and should leave the women with a feeling that you tend to have a higher value than themselves. They shouldn't consider this to be a negative aspect though. Never apologize to a woman you just negged (even if the neg was harsh for them to deal with), you've learned from that mistake and won't make it too soon again, I believe. What you could have done instead, after you got bad responses to your negs, is make a joke about it, or at the worst case scenario: say that you didn't mean it that way (just say this once, don't keep apologizing for it since you went to them, so they should be dealing with you, not the other way around). Then start taking another path with them; use another routine, try to make the women feel comfortable around you again. And if this doesn't work, then just leave them to it, learn from your mistakes and go enter another set. After all we're all still learning.

I'm impressed that you broke the emotional barrier with the other chick that you tried kissing. Since she said that she wasn't ready yet, clearly means she's kinda into you. Try conveying her during the coming days that you are so much better than her previous boyfriend. What I prefer doing is reminding her of her ex bf sometimes and then stating that he was a good bf! Yes, a GOOD bf, but not the best.
Try this:
YOU: Well, I guess your ex used to be a pretty good bf since you still think of him often. I bet he brought you breakfast on bed when you woke up, gave you a massage when you needed it without you having to ask for it, and even that he noticed when you were having a hard emotional period to support you, right?
SHE (will most likely deny this)
YOU: Really? So you mean to say that he didn't do all of those things? In my opinion they just seem quite logical, but ok, I guess he had some other good qualities.

--> This will make her think deeply about the bad boyfriend he used to be ;)

It's not like I'm a professional at this, but I'm just trying to help you out a bit. Please respond and give feedback if you don't agree with my vision at certain points. ;) Good luck!


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:50 pm 
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Great advice mate, cheers for that! I'll definitely stay away from apologising.

Problem is though I cant seem to shake this feeling of disappointment. I know i'm very early on in the game, but I suppose it just seems a bit daunting. A lot of techniques I've been reading and learning all look perfect on paper, but in the real world there are so many other variables that come into play. You have to do so much calibrating its hard to know where you are. Plus, im generally a shy person, i can fake alpha qualities, but when there are so many proper alphas around I collapse into myself. Last night was the first time I understood the phrase 'i feel so small', and I'm 6ft 3!


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:50 pm 
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STOP DRINKING!

You can not direct alcohol to only the portion of your brain that controls your inhibitions.

That is why you were "sounding stupid" or unable to deal with AMOGs. You can not react quickly enough if you drink. Don't do it. Plus... I bet you don't remember the subtle details of what happened....

Each night you go out should be a reference not an attempt to get anything. If you do things right... the outcome will always be positive.


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