"u also could have disqualified yourself at the start by saying YOU have a gf. Indeed the only way to tell if she was possibly available, or up for shenanigans Razz , would be if you were to escalate kino hoping she might make a move. "

Saying you have a gf would be DLVing. Very few girls want to hook up with a guy that has a gf already AND she could think you are an asshole for wanting to cheat on her.

Agreed that she might think youre an arsehole. But its not a DLV, its showing youre pre-selected, indeed she may find the guy more appealing.

A guy with a girl is more attractive than one without generally speaking. Guys always get more attention from girls when theyre seen with a girl.

Basically some girls may say they have a BF but that doesnt always mean they arent up for shenanigans.

A lot of, "I have a boyfriend" responses are many times shit tests. I have a field report in the section speaking of an unintentional sarge. I wasn't out for the purpose and landed a number from a HB9 who at first said she had a boyfriend. I think the only reason it worked is because I went along unphased (unfortunately because I didn't care at the time).

I've found, sometimes when your not actually thinking about the pickup, things flow much smoother, and a lot more natural therefore resulting in a better outcome for us.

And that is why David D is the man.

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one question...have u ever picked up girl...after that ? trust me i've tried it...and it's "suicide" or maybe im not good enough

I tried that once in the panties section of walmart. I asked hey I want you guys to help me pick out some sexy panties for one of my girlfriends lol. Didn't work out so well for me...

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I havent actively tried it, dont intend to, I was just thinking aloud.

so i think u should try it...and u will see if it works don't give advices if u are not sure that it works and if u havent tested it because someone could took it seriously practice practice practice

my question is should you try to find out if a target has a boyfriend before you even start gaming, or deal with it when it comes up?

whats a good way to get her to tell you if she has a boyfriend?

I deal with it before. Then I have power over where the conversation is led. I am more aware of her situation and can then more easily calibrate accordingly.

Fairly early in the convo I ask "what's your relationship situation?"

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Here'sa good one I use:
"Really", Then talk about him(but DO NOT under any circumstance try to bad-mouth him) and say, "Well when's the wedding" She'll give some lame assed answer and that is just her ASD (Anti-slut Defense) by the way, and get her to tell you about him. When you respond, "Indirectly" say something along the lines of "Gosh, it must suck to have someone so clingy and needy always underfoot." and play on that! By doing so, she is the one who disqualifies him and re-evaluates the relationship they have. (All you did was give her a push in the right direction!!!!

that seems like a really perfect opportunity to be funny and use the "let's be discreet" line. Though I've never actually used that line. Girls with boyfriends are just too much damn work to win over I usually dont even bother.

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