I know how that feels. Its tough to approach a set like that. Did you at leat smile and say hi when you walked by? Something like that can stick in a girl's mind. Who is to say that guy gets do anything more than hold her hand? You gotta open if you want to find out. I opened a cute blonde at a bar the other day and started to panic when her BF showed up, but then I rallied and drew him into the conversation instead for a second and promptly ejected to go get another drink.

All I did was trick myself by pretending he was already there the whole time. This neutralized my surprise and anxiety long enough for me to keep my frame and exit smooth. Im sure this sounds like baby stuff to any of you guys that have been doing this a while, but without his forum I never would have dared to open her in the first place.

Hey xCHANGEx ,

Its to early to analize how things are going. I'm still struggling to keep the newbie mission a constant part of my everyday behaviors and attitude. I'm still re training myself to think and react in a brand new way and still keep it natural. I'm learning new things about myself and other people every day, both on the forums and out in the real world. I appreciate the question, It made me stop and think about it.

Wow you have alot more confidence than me , I did try to smile but i was a bit depressed. Where are you from and how old are you ? We should sarge sometime haha , I feel like I'm in the game using all these terms . On the way home from work il try talk to random strangers , i need to become way more confident in myself . Also , How did you learn openers when approaching women too ?


xCHANGEx

Well I will confess that I may have a bit of an edge on you here and there. I am 38 years old. I have seen many friends and family come and go ( some who I'm waiting on to come back. You never know, they are always family) I also have the benefit of over a decade of sales industry experience, pretty much cold opening all day at work because you gotta engage people when the come into your store.

But for some reason I always remained AFC when it came to girls, especially the ones I liked. I still see a HB 8 or 9 come into the store and get all stupid lol. But now I know what is happening. I'm still a newb when it comes to squishing my AA and relaxing enough to attempt a good conversation with them, but my experience has jump started my game a bit now that I'm getting good info about what directions to take.

Idk about sarging together, I live in Cleveland. I'd be willing any time but even when I do get away from town I can't go far and can't be gone for long.

'Knowledge is power. Use it well."

Hey Reframe,

You are not alone. By the way, I am so delighted to meet you because our sales career paths are almost identical and we're also of a similar age. It's an unbelievable coincidence that made my day.

Here's the link to another forum thread where I've replied to you with my great exctement:
post774451.html#p774451

Talk to you later,

Bruno

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Hey xCHANGEx,

I've got a super easy and powerful opener that you may like. By the way, this opener helped me a lot when I first found the seduction community 2-3 years ago.

What you do is simply you go out there and as soon as you see a girl that you'd like to approach, you walk up to her and just say: "Hi, I know you."

Try to say it as if you've really seen her before despite the fact it's not true. So, you kind of show her that you are really amazed and surprised for seeing her again.

Immediately after you've said to her: "Hi, I know you", make a pause of about 3 to 4 seconds while looking at her right in her eyes by pretending that you are really surprised to see her. By the way, this pause is important for two reasons:

1) pausing builds up a kind of mystery in the girl's mind, and many women love to engage in mysterious things.

2) pausing is going to give her enough time to check you out and decide if she likes you or not.

And, guess what happens if she likes you. If she likes anything about you within those first few seconds, she may play along with your approach and say to you something like: "I think that I know you too."

And, man, if that happens, you may be on the safe road to experiencing your fast progress in approaching random women.

Now, if she says: "I think that I know you too", you say to her the following line:

"Look, let me be open and honest with you. I didn't know you but I know you now and would really like to get to know you."

By the way, the beauty of this approach is that it involves a mixture of positive and negative elements (for example, positive element is when you say that you'd like to get to know her, and the negative one is when you say that you didn't know her at all)...

...that all helps make her intrigued about you.

The next things you could do are most likely two options:

1. If you like, you could develop a nice chat about anything. This could help you practice chatting with random women.

As soon as you notice that she feels comfortable with chatting with you, I warmly recommend that you start touching her (or kinoing her) as soon as possible. You can start touching her arms first, then a few seconds later her shoulders, and then you could do the combination of those two touches linked together if you like.

Man, while touching her, just follow your natural sexual instinct and your natural sexual desires that could easily lead you into playfully touching her hair or slowly running your hand's palm from her shoulder down her back all the way down until you touch her ass.

If she's really enjoying it, you could also lean in for a kiss-close easily.

2. If you don't have much time to chat with her or if you want to pretend as if you don't have time to chat with her, just say something down the lines: "Look, I am in a kind of rush. My friend is waiting for me, and I have to go. What you would suggest as the best way for me to contact you later?"

Then, you could easily get her phone number or even facebook name.

Man, this "I know you" approach is awesome because you can practice your confidence and also chat with women, get their phone numbers, touch them, kiss them, and who knows, what you may end up doing together all at the same time.

So, use it and have lots of fun!!

Bruno

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Hey Re Frame,

Oh ok , haha yeah you are a fair bit older than me, but by not too much. You have much more experience than myself, since I haven't had any sarging experience so I have a long journey to go. I'm sure the sales experience you've had has provided you with invaluable chances to develop your confidence and be able to approach pretty much anyone. AA is huge problem I have too, but I'm really lost to where to start even if I do find a HB8-10.

I'm currently continuing my research reading book after book trying to absorb as much information as possible, but I suppose knowledge can only get you so far as I need some practical work too and that involves confronting my fears of interacting and possible rejection. How's your training going ? Sorry I haven't been posting a lot as I have had a pretty busy week with work and other commitments.

xCHANGEx

Hey Bruno,

Sorry for the delayed response, I had a pretty intense week at work and with extra activities. I'll be honest, that opener is pretty damm awesome. I haven't heard of that one before, it's so simple and innocent yet it plays with the mind of the women making it a perfect opener for any set. I saw this beautiful HB 9.5 on the train home the other day and received so many ioi's, it felt like I was reading of a book. Unfortunately, I still didn't pluck the courage to make a move or attempt to do anything. This was pretty depressing, but I've realised that I might need to be forced out into the sarge to make progress. Thus I decided to form a network within London between all the aspiring PUA's out there to somewhat decent success. Multiple different PUA's of all abilities have started emailing me offering advice or comfort some being in similar shoes. I've started getting numbers down and will be planning to try sarging with them soon to see how it goes. But I feel I have to develop some tricks and sets first, to help me be able to DHV. I've recently started to learn magic and have joined a martial arts club to help gain some confidence and further tone my body. I do feel more positive about myself, but I can't stop now as this lifestyle is all about continuous improvement and developing yourself into something greater.

The problem I can imagine which I might be facing afterwards is the next step. Just say I do interact with a women and get her number or even kiss close, I'm not too sure on where to follow from there as I haven't had any experience with a women so I don't want to end up being a disappointment. I suppose these steps are much further down the line, but I was just thinking about this in my train of thoughts.

Also, how's your sarging been going ? and has everything been alright ? Sorry for late responses, I'll try reply quicker next time.

Cheers

xCHANGEx

Hey xCHANGEx,

Everything is good with me, thanks. I'm just adding the final touches to my free report. As for my sarging, I try to take every opportunity to approach a woman as soon as it presents itself.

Just take one small step at a time when progressing with your confidence boost. And, the best way you can boost your confidence is when you forget about winning and losing women in any seduction situation.

Otherwise you'll end up always being under the pressure of either having to win or the pressure of not wanting to make a mistake.

Finally, whatever tricks and tactics you learn from books and magic lessons is all cool. But make sure that you don't forget being your true self out there when meeting women. Because only by being yourself, you can unleash your best in any area of your life.

Have fun sarging!

Bruno

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Awesome, I can't wait for the report ! I know you will have a lot of gold dust inside it, my new email is this if you want to contact me : playingthegame@outlook.com

Pretty nice right haha. Can't believe that user name was available. You seem to know me pretty well, I suppose small and steady steps is my style, but I do take very small steps. You do make a true point about being myself, I always hear contradicting advice about how to act. It always leads to the arguments around natural vs unnatural . But I suppose if you follow something you are comfortable and happy with , it can't go too wrong. I'll keep you posted on my progress.

I'm not sure yet, but I might be travelling Europe sometime next month or the one after but the plans are still in motion so I will give you a shout if anything is happening. Also, I will be setting a SPAM account to this account, because I'm sure you have loads of experiences, stories and advice which you could help me with which you couldn't possibly write all down on these forums. So I'll keep you posted on that too. Hopefully, I'll be able to help in return somehow haha.

Cheers for replying so fast

xCHANGEx

Awesome! It looks like we've become friends on this forum. Thank you very much for all your kind words about me and my support in here. You have now made my day.

You know, I can tell you for sure that apart from having the area of picking up women as my top passion in life, one of my top 5 passions is also helping people succeed and prosper in life all based on my experience and knowledge.

Having said that I must say that I am now extremely glad to know that you trust me as somebody who could help you improve one or more areas in your life.

Yeah, I agree with you that playingthegame is an awesome username for an email address. It's very cool that you could get it, hahaha.

I am glad that you like my point on being yourself. Now, the key to reaching the freedom of happily being yourself and being your best is by actually following SPAM Ghandi's brilliant happiness quote that says:

"Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony."

And, you know why not that many people are happy in this world?

Because in many cases they are scared to say or do what they really think or what they really want to achieve. In other words, they are scared to be themselves.

And, they are usually scared to do so because they live under the illusion or belief that some kind of disaster is going to happen to them as the result of them trying to do something new or something daring enough for them to achieve their desired goal.

And, guess what. Such disasters often never happen. hahaha

Furthermore, in the area of picking up hot women, you are going to experience something really amazing and really rewarding once you free yourself from all your fears and approach anxiety.

And, that amazing and rewarding thing is that when you openly and freely express your real sexual desires toward the woman that really turns you on, not only will you be one of the happiest men on earth, but also that woman will absolutely love you for it. Because most women and especially hot women LOVE to meet sexually confident men. Period.

And, you know why so many guys don't openly and freely express their true sexual feelings and their true sexual desires toward women that turn them on?

Because they believe that if they do so, something very bad or some kind of disaster is going to happen to them. And, that's how they end up spending most of their lives by being stuck in their own comfort zones.

You know what happens as the result of you being stuck in your own comfort zones that are more or less equal to your fears?

You end up making no significant progress in the process of achieving your goals.

So, the bottom line is that if you want to get on the fast track to make some amazing progresses and successes, you must identify and then overcome any of your comfort zones and any of your fears that are holding you back.

Therefore, the best way for you to become extremely happy and also to become extremely confident at the same time is often when you decide to do something that you fear or that you feel uncomfortable with every day.

Tim Ferriss (the author of the book "Four Hour Work Week") even says that the things that we fear the most are normally the things that we should necessarily do in order to progress in life and create our dream lifestyle.

It looks like your idea for us to also keep in contact through other communication channels like email or SPAM is pretty cool because I've just ended up writing another long post and you were right when you said that I'll probably need more room than this forum for sharing all my stories and experiences with you. hahaha

Cool. Thanks a lot for letting me know about your plans to travel around Europe and to set up your SPAM account. It sounds awesome. So, let's keep in touch.

Well, if you really find some gold dust inside my free report, I guess that one of the best favors that you can do to me is if you share it with as many guys as possible. hahahha

And, my answer to you saying "Cheers for replying so fast" is:

You are welcome.

Bruno

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Sorry for a very late reply, I was unfortunately quite ill last week and have only managed to start getting myself together now.

Thanks for the ebook bruno, it was a very good read, i will give you a full account of my thoughts and opinions in an email so not to spam these forums.

I think I will go out shadowing some other PUA's in london as I urgently need to improve my confidence. Right now , I have been having a somewhat start/mid life crisis about what I actually want to do with my life so have been asking myself many questions about what I want and what I really want to end up doing for the rest of my life or near future.

I'll keep you guys posted,

Cheers

xCHANGEx

Hey xCHANGEx,

It's all good. Thanks for letting me know that you've read my free report. And, thanks for the compliments.

By the way, I've thought you've been busy having some awesome sex with many hot chicks as the result of you going out with your new PUA friends in London. hehehe

Anyway, I am glad to hear that you've now recovered from your illness.

It's good that you're re-thinking about your future and what you really want to do in your life. That's a very important thing to do because of your set of beliefs inside your brain.

As you may or may not know, in order for you to transform into a super confident alpha male, you have to project the image of such alpha male. And, this all comes down to you getting rid of your old beliefs (the limiting beliefs that have been holding you back) and replacing them with the new ones.

One of the key new beliefs is you being comfortable with openly sharing your real sexual feelings with girls and women that turn you on.

And, those new beliefs more or less all revolve around you deciding to face and overcome all of your current fears, anxieties and other stumbling blocks when it comes to approaching and picking up women.

To cheer you up a bit, we all pass through different crises. We just have to try to learn from each and every such crisis and then get out of it much stronger than we were before.

Once you get the mindset of a dominant and powerful man who is confident enough to directly walk up to any woman and let her know that you are truly sexually attracted to her at any situation and at any time, you will nail it.

And, one of the best advices that I can give you to motivate you to get such mindset as soon as possible is referring you to SPAM Ghandi's quote on happiness that says:

"Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony."

Have a great day!
Bruno

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