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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:08 pm 
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By the way you describe it, that this kid is ruled by his sexual hormones which distracts him from studying. He should just go to a hooker and then back to studying. Good against exam stress. Way better than sucking up to girls who just want to copy his schoolnotes and then leave him alone again.

When it comes to Islam; you, being a Western guy, try dating some Islam guy's sister. Probably not gonna happen. Whereas in fact the guys entitle themselves to having sex with many Western women, before they ultimately marry a supposedly pious Middle Eastern wife through an arranged marriage.

People criticizing Islam today are immediately branded as "racist." Catholics and protestants criticized each other for centuries and never were "racist" for it. People conflate a race with a battle of ideas. It is because the Islam knows Western society is vulnerable to its SPAM of minorities (we feel very guilty when reminded of Holocaust, Crusades, Slave trade, etc). We aspire to be a pluriform and multicultural society and the Islam knows this and exploits it. For example in the UN they want to make religious criticism illegal by law, claiming that the liberty to criticize Islam leads to racism towards the practitioners of the religion (the immigrants). Google Organisation Cooperation de Islamique for more information. By comparison, Islam views a homogenous and monolithic society as more healthy than a pluralist once. Yet they know Western views and exploit them in their advantage. For instance islamists often bring in the Holocaust to talk about the rights of minorities and Western exploitation, whereas in fact many Middle Eastern countries see Hitler as a hero since he fought against jews and the colonial powers (Britain and France).


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Guys can we stop the whole religion conversation on this post. I really didn't want to know about your views on religion. I just wanted help with my game. I also really don't care if you think I should be doing school work 24/7. Thanks for the comments anyways.


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What is written in there is not a "vision" or a "view." It is the way of the world. Reading this will greatly aid your school performance. Its content is as densely informative as, let's say, 6 lessons in school on religion and history. I think you should read it again.


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By the way you describe it, that this kid is ruled by his sexual hormones which distracts him from studying. He should just go to a hooker and then back to studying. Good against exam stress. Way better than sucking up to girls who just want to copy his schoolnotes and then leave him alone again.

When it comes to Islam; you, being a Western guy, try dating some Islam guy's sister. Probably not gonna happen. Whereas in fact the guys entitle themselves to having sex with many Western women, before they ultimately marry a supposedly pious Middle Eastern wife through an arranged marriage.

People criticizing Islam today are immediately branded as "racist." Catholics and protestants criticized each other for centuries and never were "racist" for it. People conflate a race with a battle of ideas. It is because the Islam knows Western society is vulnerable to its SPAM of minorities (we feel very guilty when reminded of Holocaust, Crusades, Slave trade, etc). We aspire to be a pluriform and multicultural society and the Islam knows this and exploits it. For example in the UN they want to make religious criticism illegal by law, claiming that the liberty to criticize Islam leads to racism towards the practitioners of the religion (the immigrants). Google Organisation Cooperation de Islamique for more information. By comparison, Islam views a homogenous and monolithic society as more healthy than a pluralist once. Yet they know Western views and exploit them in their advantage. For instance islamists often bring in the Holocaust to talk about the rights of minorities and Western exploitation, whereas in fact many Middle Eastern countries see Hitler as a hero since he fought against jews and the colonial powers (Britain and France).
I dont honestly care about your view on religion. But I just think it's really ignorant of you to say middle eastern countries view hitler as a hero. I haven't heard middle easterners talk about hitler in a positive way before.
BTW- Nobodies critizing me on my religion or race and it's also pretty ignorant to assume I'm middle eastern(which I'm not) because my username says Mohammad


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What is written in there is not a "vision" or a "view." It is the way of the world. Reading this will greatly aid your school performance. Its content is as densely informative as, let's say, 6 lessons in school on religion and history. I think you should read it again.
It just came across as ignorant to me, if you think that's how the world works maybe you need to open your eyes.


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1. Ignorant? I never said you are from the Middle East. I don't know where you're from. All I need is that you should visit a prostitute to get rid of your horny teen urgency.

2. Mein Kampf has, for a long time, been a big selling book in Turkey. ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/ma ... rkey.books ) In bars in Egypt you can drink Hitler cocktails. Then there's statements in the U.N. by Iran officials regarding the Holocaust. Note that in many Middle Eastern countries it is very hard to statistically verify a public opinion because there often isn't freedom of expression. ( If you are truly interested you could look at this research; http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs ... .aspx/4837 )


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1. Ignorant? I never said you are from the Middle East. I don't know where you're from. All I need is that you should visit a prostitute to get rid of your horny teen urgency.

2. Mein Kampf has, for a long time, been a big selling book in Turkey. ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/ma ... rkey.books ) In bars in Egypt you can drink Hitler cocktails. Then there's statements in the U.N. by Iran officials regarding the Holocaust. Note that in many Middle Eastern countries it is very hard to statistically verify a public opinion because there often isn't freedom of expression. ( If you are truly interested you could look at this research; http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs ... .aspx/4837 )
Even if that is true, I don't care. I asked for help with pick up, not for a lecture on how I should be studying or a lecture bashing muslims.


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By the way you describe it, that this kid is ruled by his sexual hormones which distracts him from studying. He should just go to a hooker and then back to studying. Good against exam stress. Way better than sucking up to girls who just want to copy his schoolnotes and then leave him alone again.

When it comes to Islam; you, being a Western guy, try dating some Islam guy's sister. Probably not gonna happen. Whereas in fact the guys entitle themselves to having sex with many Western women, before they ultimately marry a supposedly pious Middle Eastern wife through an arranged marriage.

People criticizing Islam today are immediately branded as "racist." Catholics and protestants criticized each other for centuries and never were "racist" for it. People conflate a race with a battle of ideas. It is because the Islam knows Western society is vulnerable to its SPAM of minorities (we feel very guilty when reminded of Holocaust, Crusades, Slave trade, etc). We aspire to be a pluriform and multicultural society and the Islam knows this and exploits it. For example in the UN they want to make religious criticism illegal by law, claiming that the liberty to criticize Islam leads to racism towards the practitioners of the religion (the immigrants). Google Organisation Cooperation de Islamique for more information. By comparison, Islam views a homogenous and monolithic society as more healthy than a pluralist once. Yet they know Western views and exploit them in their advantage. For instance islamists often bring in the Holocaust to talk about the rights of minorities and Western exploitation, whereas in fact many Middle Eastern countries see Hitler as a hero since he fought against jews and the colonial powers (Britain and France).
I had to quote this all again to make something clear to you. You have to distinguish a critical examination of ideas and ideology from personal criticism. If you do not, then you are like the Organisation Islamique which tries to stop freedom of expression through the United Nations. They argue free criticism of their religion is the same as oppression of the practitioners of the religion. You think I am making this up? No, I am not making this up. They want to pass blaspemy laws internationally as a point of policy. Are you trying to use Taqiyya on me? Bashing muslims is saying "muslims fuck donkeys and goats" (although Ayatollah Khomeini did write in his treatise that the man, in times of extreme need, is allowed to turn to the goat when his wife is in the menstruation period). I, by contrast, shed light on the strategic use that is being made of memes. Let us say that it is true that Hitler is popular in the Middle East. Is affirming that the same thing as bashing muslims?


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By the way you describe it, that this kid is ruled by his sexual hormones which distracts him from studying. He should just go to a hooker and then back to studying. Good against exam stress. Way better than sucking up to girls who just want to copy his schoolnotes and then leave him alone again.

When it comes to Islam; you, being a Western guy, try dating some Islam guy's sister. Probably not gonna happen. Whereas in fact the guys entitle themselves to having sex with many Western women, before they ultimately marry a supposedly pious Middle Eastern wife through an arranged marriage.

People criticizing Islam today are immediately branded as "racist." Catholics and protestants criticized each other for centuries and never were "racist" for it. People conflate a race with a battle of ideas. It is because the Islam knows Western society is vulnerable to its SPAM of minorities (we feel very guilty when reminded of Holocaust, Crusades, Slave trade, etc). We aspire to be a pluriform and multicultural society and the Islam knows this and exploits it. For example in the UN they want to make religious criticism illegal by law, claiming that the liberty to criticize Islam leads to racism towards the practitioners of the religion (the immigrants). Google Organisation Cooperation de Islamique for more information. By comparison, Islam views a homogenous and monolithic society as more healthy than a pluralist once. Yet they know Western views and exploit them in their advantage. For instance islamists often bring in the Holocaust to talk about the rights of minorities and Western exploitation, whereas in fact many Middle Eastern countries see Hitler as a hero since he fought against jews and the colonial powers (Britain and France).
I had to quote this all again to make something clear to you. You have to distinguish a critical examination of ideas and ideology from personal criticism. If you do not, then you are like the Organisation Islamique which tries to stop freedom of expression through the United Nations. They argue free criticism of their religion is the same as oppression of the practitioners of the religion. You think I am making this up? No, I am not making this up. They want to pass blaspemy laws internationally as a point of policy. Are you trying to use Taqiyya on me? Bashing muslims is saying "muslims fuck donkeys and goats" (although Ayatollah Khomeini did write in his treatise that the man, in times of extreme need, is allowed to turn to the goat when his wife is in the menstruation period). I, by contrast, shed light on the strategic use that is being made of memes. Let us say that it is true that Hitler is popular in the Middle East. Is affirming that the same thing as bashing muslims?
I dont care man.


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The way this thread is going is a good example of what's going on in your head. Leave this thread alone and begin your journal. If you want to address 'social proof', then write up a plan. If you want to make more friends, then write it up in your plan. If you want a girl friend, write it up. People have a tendency to smell others out. . . here's what I Mean:

You can drop a talented CEO in the middle of a dysfunctional company and there's a good chance that he can change the company's culture. You might have seen how some teachers have a way with their students so that they become passionate about certain classes, while other teachers can make some of the most fun topics, miserable. We have influence . . . and this is essentially what pick up is all about. Realize that you have influence, accept that you have influence, and exercise it to better yourself and add value to other people's lives.

This thread has no balance because you have no balance. Begin your journal and get on your own path.


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The way this thread is going is a good example of what's going on in your head. Leave this thread alone and begin your journal. If you want to address 'social proof', then write up a plan. If you want to make more friends, then write it up in your plan. If you want a girl friend, write it up. People have a tendency to smell others out. . . here's what I Mean:

You can drop a talented CEO in the middle of a dysfunctional company and there's a good chance that he can change the company's culture. You might have seen how some teachers have a way with their students so that they become passionate about certain classes, while other teachers can make some of the most fun topics, miserable. We have influence . . . and this is essentially what pick up is all about. Realize that you have influence, accept that you have influence, and exercise it to better yourself and add value to other people's lives.

This thread has no balance because you have no balance. Begin your journal and get on your own path.
I actually made a journal so if you want you can check it out and if you could give me some advice that would be awesome. Here's the link:
my-underage-pickup-journal-vt161146.html


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So let me just give you a bit of background on why I'm getting frustrated. I'm a highschool sophomore, I'm okay looking average build (a little on the short side though.) I've been learning loads of pua techniques and stuff, and I'm understanding a bunch of it. I should be doing good right? But I'm not, why? I have little to no social proof. People either dont know me, or probably think I'm a decent guy (with some exceptions: such as some people might think I'm pretty cool, some might think I'm totally lame.)

I have a lot except for social proof. But here's another dilemma: I can't build much social proof because I'm a sophomore (If I had started the beginning of freshman year I'd be doing fine I think.) Also, I have like almost no places to sarge around school (excluding bus stops/ train stops.)
I can't sarge in class (personally there's not many girls I'd want to get with in the classes I'm in this year, and that's the truth, excluding gym and the problem with gym is I can't peacock because of the gym uniform so I have like no confidence without my normal clothes.)

I can't even go to parties and sarge because honestly I barely get invited (here and there I might but it's rare that I would get invited.)

Last year I was doing so much better (a bunch of girl were sending me IOIs) than this year but I had oneitis (with this girl who was sending me loads of IOIs but I was just didn't have the guts to do anything about it then and she lost interest.)

By now the girls who were sending me IOIs last year have pretty much all lost interest.

Highschool is all about social proof, and without it I'm struggling.

Any advice?
hey man,

one of the best ways you can demonstrate that you have social proof is through focusing on doing just two things:

1. first things first, have a quick smile on your face as soon as you enter a new environment, or a new situation. entering a new environment could range from turning into a new street while aimlessly walking down the street, to the situations where you're approaching a bus stop or a train stop.

why smile?

because it's scientifically proven that having a smile on your face helps people around you to subconsciously perceive you as somebody who leads an interesting and exciting life. it's an awesome feeling that kind of puts both you and people around you at ease when it comes to striking up a conversation out of blue, if you like.

2. now, even if you think that you can't get yourself to start smiling so easily in some new situations, here's another thing that can hugely help you get that social proof that you think you're now missing.

by the way, having a social proof all comes down to your ability to demonstrate high value. and, one of the best ways to demonstrate high value in the area of picking up hot women is by throwing or delivering sex banter to girls that you're sexually attracted to.

i guess that when you get into the habit of delivering some cool sex banters to girls that really turn you on, you're definitely going to get on the fast track to joining the league of the so called 'naturals' or the guys who are naturally successful with women. why?

because banters can help you become totally comfortable with expressing your real sexual desires toward girls that you're really attracted to.

here's an example.
you're approaching a bus stop where you see a hot girl standing. you walk up to the girl and say something like: "hey, how did you know i'd walk past right here and go crazy about seeing you looking so hot in that outfit?"

i hope you get the idea.

if you want to learn more on the whole process of how you can easily come across as somebody of high value who has a social proof and how you can not only effortlessly and playfully sexually attract hot girls with no approach anxiety and with no friend zone but also get them to start unstoppably sexually flirt with you or 'hit on you' like crazy, i suggest that you read my true story in my free report that you can access by clicking on the link at the end of each of my posts.

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Don't you love how people will try to force their point of view down your throat like they're so "enlightened"? I think you're showing a lot of maturity sticking to the focus of your post and not getting baited into the bs. Sobriquet I think is trying to pump you up, but there's a difference between good attention and bad attention. Being a weirdo is not conducive to expanding your social circle, it's fine to talk to strangers, but you still need to be aware of social cues and not deliberately be a weird boy. Everyone might know you that way, but no one is going to want to date you, trust me.

You're clearly a smart kid with some social sensitivity and good grammar. If you're having trouble talking to strangers and building a connection now, this problem WILL follow you outside of High School; I know. Your best course of action is to step out of your comfort zone and just start talking to people in class, out of class. If a group is talking about a subject you know something about, say something interesting that you know about it or ask them a question; play dumb. Sure, there will be some pricks that think they're too good to talk to strangers, but just eject and brush it off. There's nothing wrong about wanting to connect with people, your head's in the right place.

The earlier you practice engaging people, the better you'll get at it. If you have a wide variety of experiences and hobbies, it'll be even easier to engage and demonstrate value, so make sure you're doing interesting stuff outside of school, too. Also, don't neglect your studies, you only have one shot at High School legitimately.

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So let me just give you a bit of background on why I'm getting frustrated. I'm a highschool sophomore, I'm okay looking average build (a little on the short side though.) I've been learning loads of pua techniques and stuff, and I'm understanding a bunch of it. I should be doing good right? But I'm not, why? I have little to no social proof. People either dont know me, or probably think I'm a decent guy (with some exceptions: such as some people might think I'm pretty cool, some might think I'm totally lame.)

I have a lot except for social proof. But here's another dilemma: I can't build much social proof because I'm a sophomore (If I had started the beginning of freshman year I'd be doing fine I think.) Also, I have like almost no places to sarge around school (excluding bus stops/ train stops.)
I can't sarge in class (personally there's not many girls I'd want to get with in the classes I'm in this year, and that's the truth, excluding gym and the problem with gym is I can't peacock because of the gym uniform so I have like no confidence without my normal clothes.)

I can't even go to parties and sarge because honestly I barely get invited (here and there I might but it's rare that I would get invited.)

Last year I was doing so much better (a bunch of girl were sending me IOIs) than this year but I had oneitis (with this girl who was sending me loads of IOIs but I was just didn't have the guts to do anything about it then and she lost interest.)

By now the girls who were sending me IOIs last year have pretty much all lost interest.

Highschool is all about social proof, and without it I'm struggling.

Any advice?
hey man,

one of the best ways you can demonstrate that you have social proof is through focusing on doing just two things:

1. first things first, have a quick smile on your face as soon as you enter a new environment, or a new situation. entering a new environment could range from turning into a new street while aimlessly walking down the street, to the situations where you're approaching a bus stop or a train stop.

why smile?

because it's scientifically proven that having a smile on your face helps people around you to subconsciously perceive you as somebody who leads an interesting and exciting life. it's an awesome feeling that kind of puts both you and people around you at ease when it comes to striking up a conversation out of blue, if you like.

2. now, even if you think that you can't get yourself to start smiling so easily in some new situations, here's another thing that can hugely help you get that social proof that you think you're now missing.

by the way, having a social proof all comes down to your ability to demonstrate high value. and, one of the best ways to demonstrate high value in the area of picking up hot women is by throwing or delivering sex banter to girls that you're sexually attracted to.

i guess that when you get into the habit of delivering some cool sex banters to girls that really turn you on, you're definitely going to get on the fast track to joining the league of the so called 'naturals' or the guys who are naturally successful with women. why?

because banters can help you become totally comfortable with expressing your real sexual desires toward girls that you're really attracted to.

here's an example.
you're approaching a bus stop where you see a hot girl standing. you walk up to the girl and say something like: "hey, how did you know i'd walk past right here and go crazy about seeing you looking so hot in that outfit?"

i hope you get the idea.

if you want to learn more on the whole process of how you can easily come across as somebody of high value who has a social proof and how you can not only effortlessly and playfully sexually attract hot girls with no approach anxiety and with no friend zone but also get them to start unstoppably sexually flirt with you or 'hit on you' like crazy, i suggest that you read my true story in my free report that you can access by clicking on the link at the end of each of my posts.

Sorry for the late reply I actually read this awhile ago and have been doing the whole having a quick smile thing its great advice man. As for the second part I don't know if I'll be able to pull off sex banter being a guy whose still kinda nervous around girls pulling off saying something sexual would be like a baby walking before it can crawl, but thanks for the long reply man it's really good advice.


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Don't you love how people will try to force their point of view down your throat like they're so "enlightened"? I think you're showing a lot of maturity sticking to the focus of your post and not getting baited into the bs. Sobriquet I think is trying to pump you up, but there's a difference between good attention and bad attention. Being a weirdo is not conducive to expanding your social circle, it's fine to talk to strangers, but you still need to be aware of social cues and not deliberately be a weird boy. Everyone might know you that way, but no one is going to want to date you, trust me.

You're clearly a smart kid with some social sensitivity and good grammar. If you're having trouble talking to strangers and building a connection now, this problem WILL follow you outside of High School; I know. Your best course of action is to step out of your comfort zone and just start talking to people in class, out of class. If a group is talking about a subject you know something about, say something interesting that you know about it or ask them a question; play dumb. Sure, there will be some pricks that think they're too good to talk to strangers, but just eject and brush it off. There's nothing wrong about wanting to connect with people, your head's in the right place.

The earlier you practice engaging people, the better you'll get at it. If you have a wide variety of experiences and hobbies, it'll be even easier to engage and demonstrate value, so make sure you're doing interesting stuff outside of school, too. Also, don't neglect your studies, you only have one shot at High School legitimately.
Thanks a lot for the advice man, I definitely get what you're saying man I've seen guys try to pick up around school and get cold reactions. Those guys are the ones who get bad attention. The guys that get good reactions seem like they're not even picking up, it's just casual for them. I'm working over the summer as a cashier hopefully that will help me get better at banter(even today was like my first day and talking to strangers for even a minute and stuff seems like it might be really awkward but it's actually not hard.) Not sure how I can turn those casual conversations into getting a number close but I'll figure it out. Oh and yeah next term I'm hopefully going to join some clubs and stuff and maybe a sport ( wrestling seems fun plus it wouldn't hurt to have more guy friends too.) And yeah I wouldn't neglect my school and stuff for pickup.


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