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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:46 pm 
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My buddies and I went out last night to hit up the bars. We usually don't go out to bars on weekends because we live in a college town and the students tend to stick to who they recognize. We figured what the hell, because we'd been drinking and wanted to find some girls. The bar was packed, we walked in and made a run through before going to get some drinks. Right when we turned around there was a 3 set of HB8's. I said "Hey, are you guys having a good night?" While focusing on one girl on the right. Her friend, a taller brunette then started shaking her head while making a sour face as my target said "it's been going alright". Target then noticed her friend shaking her head and looked at me and said "sorry, we'll come find you later." This threw me off so I just said "No thanks, don't bother." She said "Okay, good." I've never been rejected so harshly and it hurt my confidence while we were at that bar. I didn't want to continue talking to girls who were more stuck up than hot. But I should have had a come back in order to keep my confidence.

Any ideas on some good come backs for girls that are stuck up and shrug you off?

"Is your friend having a seizure?"
"I thought I was talking to some polite people"

Not sure if these would work.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:17 pm 
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I'd go after the fact that she needs validation from her friend to make a decision. Something like, "Mommy says you're not interested?" while looking at the other girl.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:54 pm 
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"I didnt know you where out with your mom tonight, good for you" (smile)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:41 am 
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Awesome, those both sound like they would have worked.

Thanks.


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My comeback to "I have a boyfriend."

"Play your cards right and you could have a two."
"Just one? I have loads of them."
"Is that a problem?"

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Yeah I could use some help as well.

One of my favorite openers is "You should try out to be my new partner in crime. Long line, but it might be worth the wait."

I get great results with this, as it shows interest and sort of gives me a higher value. However I have had replies such as "Ha I already have competition?" or "I don't wait in lines, guy wait for me"

The first one I could see the girl was amused and not interested so I moved on. The 2nd one, was said in like a flirty way. I'm sure I could of kept it going if I could of thought of something good to say. But I felt somewhat insulted, and like I hit a brick wall. So I moved on...

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@Maveric, welcome to life / college / HB's - you will meet the stuck-up ones a good amount of the time. I would of tried to open with a bit of an opinion question rather than just "how are you guys doing" as it pulls back their interest.

I bet they were college girls, since you are in a college town, who get hit on all the time. College game is different, it is more of a social circle, but when cold opening, I feel the opinions of "college girls who think they are smart" can help you out with the start of the convo, getting everyone in it.

The girl who cock-blocked you thought you were hitting on them - which you were, and pulled back cuz of your looks. Which, honestly fuck them and those types of girls, shouldn't of hurt you. If you kept your frame after and smiled and kept having a good time. Since the bar was crowded, most people probably didn't hear your convo, so if you kept a happy tone, you can continue to game the rest of the bar acting like they didn't walk away from you just to reject you.

Plus, I bet they would of come back to you later if you kept being the "highlight" of the bar and gaming other girls, etc. I would of said when they left something like "already wanting to go on our second date? Damn you move fast"

or neg the debby downer girl and try to make sure they dont bring her back around when they come back to talk to you.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:56 pm 
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@Jamesd31 Thanks for the uplifting words. Yes, they were college girls, and I guess I'm just out of practice. When I was in college, I mostly had and went to house parties where it seemed to be much easier to approach the smart ass HB's, in support of your social circle reference.

Like you said, I should have approached with something less direct, and should have kept my smile and confidence when the cock blocker stepped in. I like your "already wanting to go on our second date? Damn you move fast" line.

Much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:11 pm 
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Love the lines suggesting it is her mum haha so many different possibilities with that idea:

Oh you brought your mum, I'll leave you to spend some quality time with her
I don't think your mum likes me
Do you always bring your mum to bars?
your mum is fat

ok maybe not that last one... I would say though it sounds a little like the girl shaking her head could be a tad jealous, adding that to the fact she was probably waiting with her massive bitch shield you didn't stand much of a chance opening her friend...

Maybe after you got some hostility from her you could have switched your focus to lowering her bitch shield before coming back to your hb of interest... "Your acting as if I'm trying to pick you guys up?... Are you always so angry?"


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@pathelogical, haha, those are great, and yeah the mom comment is a keeper.

Good point in mentioning that they're angry people and don't know how to act polite in public.


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Yeah I could use some help as well.

One of my favorite openers is "You should try out to be my new partner in crime. Long line, but it might be worth the wait."

I get great results with this, as it shows interest and sort of gives me a higher value. However I have had replies such as "Ha I already have competition?" or "I don't wait in lines, guy wait for me"

The first one I could see the girl was amused and not interested so I moved on. The 2nd one, was said in like a flirty way. I'm sure I could of kept it going if I could of thought of something good to say. But I felt somewhat insulted, and like I hit a brick wall. So I moved on...

Any suggestions?
My guess at a comeback for that would be:

You're one of those prissy high maintainance girls? With a neg face as if you're disgusted.
Woah you're just as arrogant as me!
So you're like a human fastpass. (Those things you buy to skip theme park lines.)
You like the weak and submissive type?
You should try it for once. You meet way hotter guys like that ;)
In that case, come help me skip the bathroom line.

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[/quote]

My guess at a comeback for that would be:

You're one of those prissy high maintainance girls? With a neg face as if you're disgusted.
Woah you're just as arrogant as me!
So you're like a human fastpass. (Those things you buy to skip theme park lines.)
You like the weak and submissive type?
You should try it for once. You meet way hotter guys like that ;)
In that case, come help me skip the bathroom line.[/quote]

I like this list... especially the bathroom one and the high maintenance one...

You could also go really serious since you asked her to be "your partner in crime" and be like "seriously, me and 2 others are planning to break into the main vault at the royal bank tomorrow, we need a driver..." and transition into the bank robbery routine... which i believe is a pretty well known routine right?


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"Where is her off button? Are you always that rude?"
"You can dress her up but can't take her out."

These are some good negs that show you are a high value guy and will not take their shit. I would then stack this with one of your other opener routines and watch for IOI's from the target as you demonstrate higher value and move into A2. Never let what other people say effect you.


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My buddies and I went out last night to hit up the bars. We usually don't go out to bars on weekends because we live in a college town and the students tend to stick to who they recognize. We figured what the hell, because we'd been drinking and wanted to find some girls. The bar was packed, we walked in and made a run through before going to get some drinks. Right when we turned around there was a 3 set of HB8's. I said "Hey, are you guys having a good night?" While focusing on one girl on the right. Her friend, a taller brunette then started shaking her head while making a sour face as my target said "it's been going alright". Target then noticed her friend shaking her head and looked at me and said "sorry, we'll come find you later." This threw me off so I just said "No thanks, don't bother." She said "Okay, good." I've never been rejected so harshly and it hurt my confidence while we were at that bar. I didn't want to continue talking to girls who were more stuck up than hot. But I should have had a come back in order to keep my confidence.
Not sure if these would work.
This is NOT a harsh rejection. There was not enough input with this for it to be a harsh rejection. It's like someone rejects your CV without having read it. What can they truly know about you to reject you on? They were probably just sours characters and would have given the same response to some epic casanova. A harsh response would be talking to some chick for an hour, building rapport and you go buy a drink and you return and she's gone.

The problem with these whores is not your approach but their attitude. They probably think they're hot shit in this crowded bar and have 100 of men hitting on them while in their daily life they stack empty bottles of nail paint on the right recycling pile for a living. They feel too good just talking to someone with a sense of decency. Someone has to whip them into shape. The Enlightened Autocrat. May he rise soon.


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Never understood the desire to play the role of a prissy chick. What's the goal again? . . . Obviously, she nor her friends will be laughing at the 'yo mama' thing so they're out of the picture. Is the hope that an innocent bystander will appreciate your aptitude for the gay dude style snap the finger, shake the head come back? Kids. . . it doesn't matter 'who started it', acting like a prissy chick usually doesn't get you far in PU.

The girl who got whisked away was pretty polite at first. "We'll come find you later," regardless of whether it was sarcastic or not takes some energy to put together. Sure, she's taking off but it also leaves her room to tell you later, "I told you I'd come back to find you. . ." A girl with no interest will just turn around and fuck off. "We're leaving" is also another typical fuck off . . . but "We'll come find you later," to me any ways, sounds like a decent attitude. The only prick of that group was the cock block. . . but usually, that type of attitude comes from an inferiority complex, not a superiority complex. . .

I think this is one of those personality things. Some people can do it. Others cannot. . .but % wise, it's always better to go with a self-mocking joke than to bounce a bitchy line back to them. . . and you already saw what that got you. Something obviously corny like, "Do what you gotta do baby. I'll be here all night. Waiting. . . you . . . me . . . all night. . . and her (pointing at some random girl) she'll be waiting for you with me." - Then you start opening the next girl, the next, and the next girl again. . . and who knows, maybe this girl would have found a way to ditch the cock block to "find you later".

*Openers aren't the most important things in PU but cliche's are always awful. . . Hey, you'd roll your eyes and shake your head too if you heard that line for the 5th time in 30 minutes. "Are you ladies having a good night?" "You come here often?" What's a girl like you doing in a place like this?" "How you doin?" "Did it hurt when you fell from heaven?" "What's you sign baby?" "If I told you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?" "Where have you been all my life?"

^These things only offer comedic value as an opener if you act like an idiot and rattle off a few, all in a row.


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