Hi guys first post,

Let me first start by saying i have been a big fan of PUA and this forum. Start of last year I started reading in the hope i could get my perfect girl. Well i found her.

Mrs perfect, blonde hair, blue eyes, perfect body and i fell in love. Amazing personality and we clicked.....

Well here is my story about her and what has happened.

She is a fragile girl, been hurt plenty before by guys promising her the world and cheating on her (god knows why).

I felt the full brunt of her insecurities for the first few weeks or month but eventually she started to trust me and well it was perfect. However one evening sitting at hers i got a phone call from a number i didnt recognize and answered it, the phone call went like this:

Me: 'hello'
them: Hi its olivia
Me: WHO ?
Them: Olivia

I hung up, i knew who olivia was, a girl i went on a double date with december two years ago, not spoken to her since and i was weirded out, my girlfriend was sitting right next to me and i pretended i had no idea who 'olivia' was...........why did i do that ? Well because i didnt want her to think i was cheating or anything weird was going on...

Fast forward to the morning after and my girlfriend calls and asks if she can have the number for 'olivia'....

I hesitate and tell her i will text it to her.

For some reason i didn't and forwarded on my friends number and informed him 'NOT TO PICK UP THE PHONE'.

I sent the number smug that i have got away with it, unfortunately my girlfriend knew the last 3 digits of the number that rang the previous night.

I sprung lie, upon lie upon lie. I even shouted at her to believe me and put down the phone on her, she isnt stupid and knew she was right and i knew she was too........but i carried on lying because eventually i thought she would relent and say 'ok'.

She didnt and in the end just gave her the number. She knows i didnt cheat as she called the number and had a conversation with her.

But know due to that massive innocent lie which was at first to borderline protect her from thinking something we are over. She hates me. ive apologised but dont know where to go ?

Any help ?

thanks guys

Dont beg it. Tell her you're breaking off contact with her and tell her you don't want to know somebody who cannot forgive an innocent mistake. Tell her you lied because you knew you hadn't done anything wrong but didn't want to worry her unnecessarily, knowing her past. The moment a girl tells me she's been cheated on and has trust issues, alarm bells start ringing. This usually means she is a cheating type herself.

You should've told Olivia: "Oh gee, this is awkward, I'm sitting next to my girlfriend, no hard feelings but I'm not interested. How did you get this number? Are you stalking me?".

Then you should've refused to give her the number. Real men deal with their own shit. If she doesn't like that, tell her to take a hike. Be the fucking man and take control of the situation.

Go no contact. Block her on facebook, stop texting her, stop calling her. Contact should be ZERO. Don't just try for a few weeks then cave in and call her out of desperation. No contact means no contact. Wait for her to contact you. You said sorry, don't say it again. If she can't forgive you, knowing that you didn't cheat, she is not worthy of your time. Fuck other girls and this girl will seem less significant.

Follow Hunter_Foxe's advice.

Thanks for the reply,

only just checked for replies.

First let me say this....I promised this girl the earth i told her i wouldnt be like them other guys and lie or cheat and well i lied.

WELL she actually asked me to see her and ive never seen somebody so upset, tears everything.

We hugged, i left and as soon as i left she text me to come back.

I went back she cried some more and she said we need to start over again from the beginning which i think is fair.

I get home and then 2 hours later get a text saying:

"sorry,ill never trust you"

I know why she has text that as she was thinking about all the lies i told and obviously its still sore.

Ive ignored the text......but i know she cares as she will keep texting me.

Honestly bro I don't think you deserve her anyway. Learn from it, only you know what to do now...

I'm not surprised she doesn't trust you. Your behaviour was about as unnecessarily fishy, suspicious and untrustworthy as its possible to be in that spot.

Instead of telling her the truth, you pretended you didn't know who this girl is, then you gave her the number of a friend who you told not to pick up. You have to realise how incredibly suspicious that looks!

Well i believe now im having my head completely messed with.

Yesterday i went No contact, went out for a few drinks (not to pull) and left my phone at home on purpose so not to contact.

I get home to 30 texts dont reply and wake up to 42 texts and 4 phone calls.

I cave in and told her i went out. she tells me she hates me etc etc and we talk on and off all day and eventually she comes round to telling me we can work it out and then 5 minutes later tells me we cant and starts telling me i dont care about her ??

back to no contact !!!

Ahhh dude. Its like, is there any winning to this? Bc if you give her your attention and act sweet, it proliferates the cycle of fuckery. And when you ignore her... just damn. She's put you in the negatives already. Might have to next her.