Yeah but would she ever respond to you at all? It's like I either creep her out, or intimidate her to the point of paralysis. She works at this one restaurant that I've been going to for ages. One day I show up, SHE WORKS THERE! Won't look me in the eyes when I order, stands with her back turned towards me when I'm eating there with my friends.

I know that I am not a weird guy.... It seems that only in the modern day could a person as social as me be considered weird for wanting to know someone...

it sounds like you are a bit angry or mad at her...... work on being more tolerant of peoples behavior especialy they ignoring you... when you become comfortable with her being shy or/and ingnoring...when you allow her that freedom, she will stop ignoring you...allow her to behave the way she is comfortable and she will sense that energy...perhaps she feels guilty for not responding to you and now it is hard for her to look you in the eyes and more easier to turn you back... anyway get a life!

...your obsession with her is kinda pointer to the emptines in your life .... nature abhors vacum so it fills it with rubbish obsession.......this girl is kinda shadow career for you...you are hiding from your true career/mission and avoiding your greatness.......you need to find a true worthwhile obsession...something greater than life...a purpose in your life.... then it will be far easier for you to pull off any women you like...find something you are willing to die for then live for it....as my old man used to say: a man without a passion is like a man without a passion

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You're kind of right, but not really. I see where you could find the anger part from, but it's only because it reflects on me, if that makes sense. Because her quietness, social paralysis makes me feel like I am doing something so over the top to scare her off. I haven't talked to her in some time, but since this thread kept going I'd expand on it. I kid you not, the last time I tried to contact her was maybe a month or two?

As for me needing to "Get a life", I get the way you worded that. It was in a helpful tone.

Believe it or not, I'm not one of those guys that does nothing but game on girls, and without a girl - his life is meaningless. If anyone, I am the one preaching against it. I'll say this - I am known for having tons of interests and speaking out against making a girl the center of your life. This time was different, this was one person who I figured would be worth posting about.

So you kinda have a lot of shadow careers?


btw it seems that girl have a lot of game...she made you fall in love with her deeply...no wonder, waiters have far more game than most of the guys... they have a lot of experience cause they are being gamed a whole day..

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No, multiple hobbies and interests, one career I am working on.

If you want to get that girl, you've gota to be a real man...you've gota to be able to do in real world what you can do only on keyboard now...you got to be the weird guy you are so afraid to be...you've got to be able to take her by hand, force her to look you in the eyes and even kiss her 'against' her will...

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Fuck it, lol. She's not that worth it!

perhaps, but that would be fun, would it not?



btw heres a book reccomendation for you, from a famous author Seth Godin:

http://www.amazon.com/We-Are-All-Weird- ... in_title_0

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on the other hand this is exactly what you need to do, not because the girl is worth it, but because you owe it to yourself...you was once like that... the real man, when you were kid...until society brainwashed you and made you a shadow and caricature of a man you were brave, free, spontaneous creature that fights for himself and most of all - like yourself...when you were kid when you saw that toy on the playground theres no way you asked for permission to touch her... no way pedro! you were all over her before you could say cake!

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Ive been in that situation before. The only difference was when she ignored me the first couple times I simply ignored her back. I didnt call or text her for 3 months. When I finally did text her I sent her this. "OMG I heard you've been kidnapped, don't worry I'll rescue you. Have they been feeding you. dont worry i'll bring chocolate... white, milk, or dark?" Its a very playfull way to get the ball rolling again as well as giving you a chance for seeing her quickly if she invites you over. Any longer then 3 moths and I would advise using Gamblers "Hey sorry I missed our anniversary. You didnt waite up t0o long did you?" Beyond that not much more I could tell you besides that if she doesnt respond dont text her again for awhile. Texting her over and over again when she's not responding is a bad idea. It just makes you look pathetic and desperate.

It sucks too because I really do like her, she has something special about her but considering I've fucked it up by texting her so much with no real "game" behind it... eh

your running i'll be happy when script... a hidden hamster wheel.. you wouldnt be satisfied with yourself even if you fuck this girl 3 times a day 365 days in a row......hapines and satisfaction are an insider job...it has nothing to do with circumstances and results....

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I agree, but it's not so much that I really want to date her, but curious as to why she had such a long conversation with me, telling me things like "Well, I hope I was worthy of your time!".

Cause I said I liked talking to people about real things.

I removed her off facebook about a month ago and added her back today, she accepted.

If she didn't wanna talk to me, why would she accept?

I know I'm just dragging this out for no reason, it's not an obsession, but it was interesting to see if she'd accept.

Why would she accept it if she won't respond to my texts or messages on facebook and knows exactly who I am!

And one last thing - Someone has been telling me this girl is a huge sex addict.

and why you dont want to face up her in real life, grab her or kiss her no matter what?(as you said earlier)... or just plain invite her on a date?

many many girls are greater afc than the average guy...they are shy, timid, afraid of and ruled by people's opinions, they do not rule over themselves, they lack self mastery and just go with the flow of life , doing the easiest thing, not doing what they would realy like to do...
however the moment you become aware of the trap is very valuable....you treasure that moment...cause the first thing you must do to get out of the trap is to be aware you re in the trap.... cause as goethe said none are more helplessly enslaved than those who falsely think they are free...

on the other hand perhaps this is leading you somewhere...nobody can know exactly and precisely what is on your mind (not even you) or whats in her mind... perhaps she wants a fresh start with you...perhaps she wants to see what you will do now....perhaps she is not interested in dating (just like you) but is curious to see what will happen next...

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