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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:44 am 
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If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astound ourselves. -Edison


I’m a senior in college. I consider myself a decently social guy, but never had luck with girls but due heavy AFC syndrom. I’m great at making friends but not escalating (sounds familiar?). I decided to change myself once and for all, and give this my 100% effort.

I have daygamed a bit, and recently had huge improvements on AA and can number-close. However, I haven’t gotten a date yet from daygaming. In my personal life, I exercise regularly and have been meditating everyday for a couple months.

Reasons for this blog:
• Push myself to do more. Knowing I have an audience, I feel a stronger purpose to push myself
• Keep my progress on record
• Get suggestions on what to do. Lucky for you guys, I will be willing to try crazy openers and routines (within reason of course, that can be just outside my comforzone) and will report back how it worked. This will also help me become outcome independent
• discuss game theory. I will post my own post my own questions and lessons, and I encourage you all to do the same. I also offer to help how I can in return.

Short term goals:
Recognize escalation opportunities and push myself
Get a date

I'll be daygaming tomorrow, stay tuned!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:59 am 
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Daygamed at the Uni with my wing. I go to a huge state school, and there are many students out, especially on a sunny day like today.

1 warmup. The first pickup of the day I always approach as a warmup. Opener "I'm waiting on a friend, so I'm going to hang out with you for 5 mins" It's the perfect opener because it gives a innocent reason, a time constraint, and there's no questiosn so she can't refuse easily. I wasn't into her so I ejected in 10 mins.

2 sitting on the grass she looked really pretty but was really shy and said she needed to read. Not fun anyways, and I made the mistake of saying a 20 min time constraint, and she was put off. That kind of mistake rarely happens so IDK what happened.

3 Walking approach. this is something I've been working on because sitting approaches was getting easy. She wasnt into the conversation off the bat however and was put off. I believe a main part was my voice level, which was really low. I just finished reading Mystery's Revelation and was trying to act like the Ghost (not showing too much emotion) and slowing my speech speed way down. But my voice level dropped, will take note of that.

4 Walking approach this time my body language was way better. Funny thing she recognized me because we have alot of mutual friends. I didn't want to close then but still was good in building attraction. I could have used more kino though.

5 smalltalk with a group of girls had a great situational opener. Was the center of conversation for sure, and was fun and made everyone laugh. invited to insta hangout with them! They were not too cute though, shame.

Lessons learned
1. the first few seconds are crucial
2. more kino. always more kino

My wing still has trouble number closing. He's like me, pretty much low AA but needs to work on conversation. I'm going to have him install a recorder app so we can replay the conversations. I might start doing the same.

I'm meeting 2 more wings tomorrow. 1 never met before, so I'll see how that goes.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:13 am 
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What a difference a day makes! 3 number closes, one a girl in her underwear!!

1. warmup. situational opener, no AA at all, good start already.

2. Girl in her underwear This is my second open of the day. I went to the quad where students like to lay out, and because it was a sunny day it was packed. I usually walk around the fringe so I can see a target easier, but this girl was even further on the edge. I definitely saw her ass before her face. I went around in front of her, saw that she was cute, and used the redhead opener. "I'm really into redheads, so I had to come and say hi." Conversation was great, and i soon saw that what i thought was a bikin top was actualy a bra! Definitely nursed a semi the whole time. Got her number and set up a pizza-date next tuesday, fingers crossed!

3. redhead walking to class. After that I was just ON for the rest of the day. I saw another redhead walking, stopped her with the redhead opener. She said she's got a quiz right now, and I told, not asked, told her to flirt with me for 5 mins because I'm much more fun than a quiz. funny and cocky, the whole way. number closed

4. twoset with my wing. This is the one I'd like our theory discussion. Although we maintained decent conversation, our stiles are different. he's sarcastic and i'm cocky funny, and because the convo bounced around without either of us focusing to a single girl, I didn't find an appropriate position to number close. I thought about it and came to the conclusion that there's two things approaching with a wing can be successful: 1) you and the wing close together. make mutual connections between all 4 and invite the two girls to hang with both. 2) develop signals to show your wing that you are targeting a specific girl, then the wing's job is to make you look good and occupy her friend.

5. girl on the grass. she was very nice, had a fun convo. didnt close because looks wasnt my type. Did this as a opener challenge "I'm lost, do you know where my mommy is?" It's good to push your comfort zones with weird pickup lines.

6. girl on the grass she was interesteing, she didnt have fb. when i asked what her hobbies are (usually girls would try to prove that they're fun), she said she didnt have any. Said she has a long distance relationship, got her number anyways

7. Walking home pickup When I was finished, I got a sandwich and started heading home. I saw a very cute blonde in front walking the same direction, so I caught up to her. I acted like I just noticed her, and asked "katie?" (stupid opener, I know). She smiled and shook her head, I said my mistake, and stacked forward to how's your day, blah blah. Luckily, she lives literally across the street from me and at the end I told her to thank me for walking me home by giving me her number. Closed.

Lessons learned
1. you can use ANY opener
2. when a girl has a bf, if you really are attracked to her, get her number. I DO NOT ADVOCATE HOMEWRECKING. But, relationships don't last forever, and if/when she breaks up, she already know's your intentions, so guess who shes gonna call.

I also found a way to help my beginner wing to get past stages of AA which I explain as blueballing. At the beginning of the day he was really nervous to do anything, so I made smaller goals. I told him to just approach a girl and say "I'm waiting on a buddy so I'll hang with you for 5 mins." Then no matter how great the conversation was you had to eject in 5 mins without asking for a number. That takes a lot of pressure off to approach. He started to talk to girls, and some conversations went so well I had to physically motion for him to eject. He told me that he so wanted to keep talking to the girl and closing her if he had the option, so essentially he blueballs himself so he's looking forward to the next step instead of dreading it.

Overall, Ielt AMAZING today. Game was on, physically felt good, excited for the dates. That night I was in a bartending class with a bunch of students, one of which was a very cute little blonde. She was with a friend, I immediately started chatting them up, paying more attention to her friend. I soon found out she has a 7 month old baby LOL! But either way I internalized being a boss so well that by the end of the night she was whispering in my ear and lifting up my shirt. Can't wait for tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:34 am 
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Every Saturday there's a group of us that meet in SF to practice Daygaming. Today we went to Japantown for their Cherry Blossom Festival. Even though I didn't work hard on the number close because I don't live in SF, there were a couple highlights:

1. Fun events have alot of fun situational openers. Use them. My fall-back for white girls were "you look super japanese, so I'm going to hang out with you." or "what part of Japan are you from" Always gets a laugh

2. Asian girls suck. don't get me wrong, I believe asian girls are gorgeous and I'd date/bang them. But in terms of daygaming, don't bother (too much). Because daygaming takes alot of openmindedness from the girl, witty banter, etc, shy asian girls are usually put off, bitch sheild up, instead of having fun.

If you do want to try an asian girl, I'd suggest not cocky funny at first, see what she's like, then stack forward.

3. I've grown tremendously. Just earlier with these same group of guys I was big AA and usually needed heavy pushing, but now I find myself giving other guys tips and having them look towards me.

Got more university gaming going forward. Nighty night folks


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:51 am 
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Nightgaming with my wing

Went to a college pool bar by the school. It was sunday night so didn't see much, but I have one thing to note. I was in a two-set with my wing, and we had a friendly conversation. Near the end, the conversation started dying off and we saw IODs: checking their phones, talking about going to other bars. To keep the girls' interest up, we should've started playing pool with them, at the height of the conversation, not the valley. Like this:

Wing: [makes joke]
Girls: [laugh, comment, etc]
Me: ok stop, we are at a pool bar. We are going to stop being lame and play pool.
Girls: sounds good!

Daygaming tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:43 am 
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Energy and persistence conquer all things.-Benjamin Franklin

It started as a typical day, I was winging with two buddies this time. It was sunny, albeit a bit cold, and I had high hopes. However, I would be proven wrong. Opener after opener would have no avail. It wasn't even bad approaches; I'm doing the same things I always do, but luck just wasn't on my side. I had girls that weren't interested. Some too shy. Girls working hard on their papers. Boyfriends, etc. A girl was in highshool?! I even told myself to take a step back with my approach, do some non straightforward openers, but that didn't even work out as the girl had to leave for class.

I went 2 hours and not even a good conversation, let alone a number. I was ready to call it quits, when I saw a cute little blonde HB8 sitting by herself on the grass eating lunch. I mustered the little energy I had left and started walking towards her. I sat next to her, said "you're bored, I'm bored, let's hang out." She chuckled, and replied "OK" with a big smile on her face, and it was on.

I gamed her, teased her, gave her attention one minute and looked distracted another. I initiated Kino (not enough though). All in all a pretty fun conversation, found out she's a freshman and a dancer (fuck yea). Then it came for the number close:
Me: you haven't eaten at [pizza place]?! No way!
HB8: yea haha I've heard about it though
Me: Give me your number and we're going there *pull out phone*
HB8: haha, I like how you dont even phrase it as a question
Me: c'mon, you were going to say yes
HB8: how do you know? (shit test)
Me: because I'm very cute *shit eating grin*

I'm seeing her thursday.

Guys, do not let results get you down. Pay attention to them to see if you're doing anything wrong, but know that there are many factors outside your control.

On another note, I'm seeing the bikini girl from last week tomorrow and we're getting dinner. My homework is to plan what to talk about, what games to run, and how to bring this to day2. Any tips?

Sticking points from today
1. more kino
2. get better at walking approaches. I froze up on some girls that are walking. Next time I will purposely look for those opportunities to practice.


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Date with bikini girl
Today was my date with the bikini girl from last week. I was pretty nervous throughout the day (I noticed when I had trouble doing my normal meditation routine). To calm my nerves I forced myself to go out an hour before the date to daygame. I actually got a number lol

When we met for dinner, I gave her a kiss on the cheeks. She didn't expect me to pay at all, so we went dutch. However, the date was kind of a dud. She was super shy on the date, not flirty, no back and forth (LOLed at my jokes though, so I think she was into me). Funny thing, one of my chick friends HB9 was walking by, and I told her to join us what I thought would be 5 mins but she stayed the whole dinner. We actually all went back to HB9s house to do a little bit of wine tasting HAHA. I'm convinced that this whole interaction was a DHV, because at HB9s apartment there are 2 more HBs that I was friends with. I hugged her at the end, and haven't decided if I will pursue.

Date tomorrow with blonde HB8 from monday. This will be more of a outside picnic. cheers


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Date with HB8 blonde

Today was my second date in a row. Again, I daygamed the hour before to get warmed up, and got a number. We got pizza, and again she went up to pay for her share without expecting anything else. After we ate she said she had a bit more time (IOI) so we sat on the grass and hung out for another 30 mins, with some cheap kino here and there. I had a couple mimics I wanted to run, which I completely forgot about during the date:

1. The C vs U shaped test
2. ESP number 1-10

These were simple routines, but I wanted to get comfortable practicing them with a girl. I'm not punishing myself because I expected to make mistakes on my first couple dates, but as I get more comfortable I will incorporate more.

Sticking points:
1. routines
2. more kino (this is the third time I'm saying this, so hopefully I'll remember), just find any excuse to touch her and make that a game, but always calibrate it with an IOD.
3. During daygaming, I noticed I especially froze up on the walking sets. I need to practice those more.


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Typical daygame with my wing today. Nothing too particular so I'll jot down some notes:

-I purposedly tried to work on my walking approaches. I realized the best way is to take it a step at a time, like I did with sitting. First get comfortable walking up to girls (not HBs). Then get comfortable holding a conversation without the intention of #close, etc

-There are many more opportunities of HBs walking than sitting down. sure the failure rate will be higher, but overall success should be higher too

-SMILE, didn't do that when I approached

-I'm fidgety when talking to someone, pay attention.

Other thoughts
Right now I'm reading The Mystery Method. I've already read Revelation (also by Mystery). After the first glance, I will go back and outline the books, then plan out the skills that I need to learn in priority form. Otherwise there's too much info and can clutter my mind. Timeline for that is by the end of next week.

In my life, I'm applying to be a bartender. I've already completed the course, and will submit applications next week. Bartending will definitely help with my social skills and DHV


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Rethinking journal

Initially, I started this journal hoping to keep my progress in check and to have outside input on my progress. However, there hasn't been any response yet, and I'm not blaming the community, I believe it's simply a product of having so many journals out there. For now, I will adjust this journal more to my own needs, which is less storytelling and more of a technical lesson format.

With that said, here are some updates:

Frat party last night.
• Typical frat party
o a ton of drunk people
o almost too packed
o shitty alcohol
o Loud music

• Twoset #1
o 20 mins
o Good: made fun smalltalk, got in the mood for the party
o Improvement: realized I didn’t want to pursue, should eject earlier

• Twoset #2
o 30 mins
o Good: negging the target, paying attention to both equally
o Improvement: had no plans to isolate HB

• Near dance floor
o HB8 blonde
o Good: approached, made her laugh
o Improvement: tried to have a normal conversation instead of escalating. You’re at a dancefloor. Ran out of things to say, asked to dacne, she said boyfriend
o My friend, J (who’s a much more advanced PUA), F-closed her. This makes me happy because it shows that PUA skills actually work.

• Takeaways:
o Always have a plan. Do I want to escalate this set? How? What are my trying to do now? 5 mins from now? 20?
o Kino. Again, I forgot. Next time that’s the first thing I’ll pay attention to entering a set.


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Thats not true at all.

I've met alot of Asian women. I always started with a silly but Direct opener, Something like a joke. Then I just share interests but not show that I'm attracted to them. By the end of 5, sometimes 15 minutes I'm always giving them my number. I've always got a silly message back. Alot of them want a silly social guy who's not afraid of showing there opinions and being honest.



I tend to use alot of neutral topics about shows and movies, while asking personal questions than make jokes off of them. At the end of deep personal topics I usually share an event from my life that relates. To demonstrate that I've been through similar experiences. Other than that I'm quiet and I let her take the lead of the conversations while we happen to walk in the same direction.



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Every Saturday there's a group of us that meet in SF to practice Daygaming. Today we went to Japantown for their Cherry Blossom Festival. Even though I didn't work hard on the number close because I don't live in SF, there were a couple highlights:

1. Fun events have alot of fun situational openers. Use them. My fall-back for white girls were "you look super japanese, so I'm going to hang out with you." or "what part of Japan are you from" Always gets a laugh

2. Asian girls suck. don't get me wrong, I believe asian girls are gorgeous and I'd date/bang them. But in terms of daygaming, don't bother (too much). Because daygaming takes alot of openmindedness from the girl, witty banter, etc, shy asian girls are usually put off, bitch sheild up, instead of having fun.

If you do want to try an asian girl, I'd suggest not cocky funny at first, see what she's like, then stack forward.

3. I've grown tremendously. Just earlier with these same group of guys I was big AA and usually needed heavy pushing, but now I find myself giving other guys tips and having them look towards me.

Got more university gaming going forward. Nighty night folks

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:36 pm 
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Thats not true at all.

I've met alot of Asian women. I always started with a silly but Direct opener, Something like a joke. Then I just share interests but not show that I'm attracted to them. By the end of 5, sometimes 15 minutes I'm always giving them my number. I've always got a silly message back. Alot of them want a silly social guy who's not afraid of showing there opinions and being honest.
To be clear, I'm talking about Asian immigrants, not Asian americans. Also, I noticed you get their guard down by feigning non-attraction. I tend to be direct and flirty throughout the pickup.

Interesting that you give them your number, what are your % success for first dates?
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Thats not true at all.

I tend to use alot of neutral topics about shows and movies, while asking personal questions than make jokes off of them. At the end of deep personal topics I usually share an event from my life that relates. To demonstrate that I've been through similar experiences. Other than that I'm quiet and I let her take the lead of the conversations while we happen to walk in the same direction.
Asian girls aren't impossible, you just have to be a lot more careful with them, and focus on building comfort more than attraction.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:01 pm 
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New Learning Materials

I met and chatted with my PUA buddy, J, from last night, who gave me a few new suggestions for skills building:

-Magic Bullets
-Daygame Blueprint
-Daytime Dating

He recommended using daytime dating first, read through the book once, then go back and focus on my sticking point.

I also saw J in daygaming. He went with a super direct opener of 3 girls with a wing, stayed in a set for 20 mins, and had the girl all over him in 10. The girl wanted to make out with him at the end, but he didn't. His reason was that making out with a guy in public is a big deal for a girl. What she'll then do is build up the experience so much in her head that you become intimidating.

I approached a couple of sets. One worth noting was a twoset with a wing, on of which was a Norwegian exchange student, half korean half white HB8. Got a number-close, but she was hesitant in going on a date, so now I have to convince her through txt/phone. Any tips?

Takeaways:
1. A1-A1 (Mystery) is important in daygame to number close without flakes. People get stuck in A2
2. Kino, I forgot about it again, so this will be here for all eternity


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Asian girls aren't impossible, you just have to be a lot more careful with them, and focus on building comfort more than attraction.[/quote]

I guess. It depends on the girl :)

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Initial thoughts

Before going out
- Felt shitty about going out, ALWAYS will have this feeling, so NEVER and excuse
- This feeling WILL go away after a few approaches
-2 step Warm-up process
1. Step outside, I immediately felt better
2. Direct opener on a girl sitting down

Approach goals
-After reading Daytime Dating, try to do less C&F on the approach
-Also, slowed down speech: ‘hi…I was walking by and I thought you were very pretty…and I wanted to come and say hi’
-Record my approaches, success!
-Try to include kino, should always have a reason to touch arm/hand during convo

Approaches

Franchesca
-Opener was good
-Conversation died on certain points:
I purposely asked less questions in general, but sometimes a girl can’t lead a conversation, so I should ask a question after a statement is made
-Got her number, the switch last two numbers trick worked

Anna Lee
- Lol same elementary school, she recognized me
- i remained steady, # close

Kristin
-Conversation went boring, so instead of saying what year, etc, ask tell me about yourself. Just never ask what year
-Be optimistic and DHV, so instead of saying sailing is the lazy sport, say the ‘coolest sport’
-Be more exciting in speech, happy and optimistic about errthang!

Soundbites:
• What are you doing now? Taking a 8 month long vacation

Things I didn’t do (which I believe is less important):
• Keep talking after #-close
• Compliment something specific about her

Next time:
-Have more energy! Don’t be too cool
-Slow down speech
-Topics to talk about: major, hobbies, what she’s doing now
-Remember before approach:
1. Record
2. Kino, arms and hand


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