Let's face it guys. I'll admit to having very little game and I'm incredibly shy, but my redeeming quality is that I'm a good looking dude. I've hooked with 8 or 9's at parties with little to no effort on my end. I have friends with way better social skills and are all into gaming and self improvement.. but whenever we go out the girls they're talking to usually end up interested in me. I have no idea how because I would consider myself a wallflower.

I'm not saying this to brag, it's just a realization that I've had. If you want your game to go to the next level, begin with the outward and start working inward.

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"Real Niggaz do what they want, Bitch Niggaz do what they can do." -2pac

I'll have to sort of agree with you, but not really.


Example:
This I learned on the field...time and time and time again.
A good looking guy gets the attention, better than a bad looking one.
BUT a rightly peackocked guy beats the good looking guy.

I have a friend, who's really short and looks exactly like THAT YELLOW BASTARD (from sin city).
He wears this tailormade cotton blue trench coat, and had these (he claims) SHAMANIC bracelets and necklaces.
And always wears his trademark pink casual cotton shirt-,which looks like it's been stolen from a lowlife drug dealer in Panama.(I can't describe it..but it's really cool).
and this guy beats any good looking guy/almost.

(We used to be best friends..until thanks to a girl...blah,blah..).

Typical of him picking up..
I mean REAL TYPICAL is this:

CLUB:
He goes up to a group of people, with good looking chicks.
He started talking to the chicks right away.
And the chicks(trust me, I've seen him in action 1000 times) ALWAYS, I mean, ALWAYS, look at each other like 'is this guy for real'. then they look at the good looking guys they're with with question mark expression.

He doesn't give a shit about IOI, IOD...he just goes on and on and on chatting (firstly , he informs everyone what specific drink is good to get in that specific club, (as a club goer he knows each bartender by name) then he tells them it's all a good vibe, and what club to go to aftewards...
And just when someone said something..he veers whatever discussion into his REAL SPIEL:
and that's how he's a shaman, blah,blah, he tells them the difference between an Indian shaman and a south american one...he explains the POWER of each of his necklaces..
yes, THE POWER..

and he gets REAL fucking fascinating, like even me, who never listens to people,(and I've heard him 100 times), I still smile in admiration for that f*cker.
You could actaully see him growing in size as he tells his piratish stories.

And almost every night, he fucking a goodlooking chick.

The irony is, his even very picky.

Without doubt looks matter. But the difference is they don't matter as much to women as they do to men, for women social status is far, far more important. That doesn't mean you can look like a tramp and still get hbs. I think as long as you look cool or stylish in your own way, then if your game is good you will succeed with women. The key is looking important, or if you will, like an alpha male.

Im the same as you man, women (and a certain type of man for that matter ) tell me I'm handsome all the time, but your game has to be good to take it from there. So when you say you're shy and don't have the best social skills you might be right, but clearly your game is good enough to get the job done. The way I see it, looks are just a head start when gaming a girl, but in no way what so ever is it the most important factor.

There's a section in Neil Strauss' 'The 30 day Challenge' that deals specifically with this, can't find a decent link anywhere but it's the section in Day 14 called 'The Evolution of Sexual Preference', by Thomas Scott McKenzie.

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Personally, I think the recipe for creating attraction is confidence + one other element. The other element can be anything; good looks, money, a sense of humour, a sexual vibe, a fun vibe, whatever.

Now these are often intertwined; good looks or money might bring extra confidence, whilst extra confidence might bring out your sense of humour more. If you haven't got one of those assets, you need to work on one or more of the others. But what is most important is confidence. A good looking guy who is too nervous to chat to women isn't going to get as much success as an average looking guy who is confident and as a result of that confidence brings out a sexual vibe which the girl loves and as a result she goes home and fucks his brains out.

So in answer to your point, yes, looks do matter. But they only matter equally as much as any of the rest of that list (money, sense of humour etc.). Looks are just one possible way of creating attraction. If you haven't got them, you can use any of the others and still create equally as much attraction just in a different way.

And none of those are as important as confidence.

I've just had lunch, I gave it more thought, it boils down to :
Looks buy you time. If there's an ugly playboy around..you got say a head 30 minutes on the game..
and then...
He'll drug her his charm,etc..etc..
If there are no playboys in the vicinity you win.

Being good looking is easy. Dress well, fix posture, showering, get a cool haircut. DONE.

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Two words: Carpe Diem

I almost forgot the biggest playboys, I've met (I'm excluding myself) were ALWAYS on in the ugly side.

One was so ugly we called him the DEVIL.(for one he peackocked like the devil)
(as in he was uglier than hell).
Well, this dude had 3 women living with him.

Another storic ugly guy(I've met in my years of clubbing) used to peacock with a "skirt".. Confident, as if it was SUPER normal for a dude to wear a skirt..
Women 'launched' themselves at him..

The looks are important because it can make a good first impression. If you don't shower, don't take care of yourself, have a bad haircut or things like that, then girls will automatically assume that you don't take good care of yourself (in which they are probably right).

If you have a stylish look, and the confidence, it will shine. Girls notice an attractive guy, with the looks and the confidence and will be curious about you. But still most of us gotta do something. The girls will come, but not speaking you immediatly. They give subtle signs such as looking/staring, proximity and such. Notice these signs and approach them.

The better you give a look of yourself from the outside, the more signs you get. So yes looks matter, sorry non-believers.

Wallie

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There was never a time when looks did not matter. They matter. Just not as much as you think they do. Imagine it as one of the paddles of your boat. You can still move forward without it, just not as fast.