Hey,

OK, I have a few girls who I know are interested in me but im struggling to get them to see me again soon. Need some advice on the following two:

G1 - Met with a group of friends, she asked my mate if I was single, K-Closed that night (fell asleep in hotel room whilst she showered after the night haha), met her a week later, we hooked-up then she has been saying she wants to meet me but putting it off, when I tried to set a meet this wknd she says "Can I let you know later in the week" which means im plan B, but she tells her friends shes into me.
G2 - Long story cut short, met for dinner (only option), then went out for drinks at the weekend & K-Closed. I got txt before I got home saying she had an amazing night. Txt a few times, general convo with added humour blah blah blah. She agreed to meet but is busy for two weeks so again will "Let me know"

SO FRUSTRATING getting the classic "I'll let you know" bullshit.

Normally I would just not bother again with them as letting you know normally means im not interested, but I know this is just a shit test from both. G1 - Coz what her friends have said to me, and G2 - Coz she wouldnt have txt me first, or agreed to meet me again (shes the type who would just say no)

How can I get the upper-hand on these two??

Meeting the second time is defining.

Looks like you need to work on your mid-game.

You have no problem attracting girls. But you have issues going beyond attraction. Perhaps you're being too clingy, such as texting them too often and too much, giving them vibes that you're WAY too into them WAY too soon. Perhaps also being too persistent on meeting up.

You need to start administering punishments for bad behaviour. Girl takes 4 hours to reply to a text? Take 4+ hours to reply. Girl puts off meeting with you? Cease texting her. You tell a girl you like her and she doesn't say it back? Never say it again until she does. An eye for an eye.

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Taste D'Wayne Bowe - Can you elaborate. I have met them both twice.

Fly_Swatter - Think you hit the nail on the head re-mid game. Im fine when im with them its just the in-between meets/dates. Im deffo not clingy, I dont reply straight away or more than I need too. But do ask for the next meet/date too soon I guess....Ill work on that....

I dont understand G1 and im loosing interest tbh so whatever happens with that one happens.

G2 tho is amazing so dont want to fuck this up. So lets say she doesn't "let me know" in a week or two (which they never do), where to go from here? How to reinitiate contact etc

I have a question, why did you only get a kiss,were you just being polite, why not try to fuck them? especially Girl # 1? you had the entire night.

It sounds like in both cases you failed to keep the fire hot, you needed to create the same emotion on the second day chat that you had when you hooked up that evening for the kiss. If the fires fizzles it allows the target the opportunity to talk her self out of things. Women are classic over thinkers and react mainly through emotion,especially when it comes to attraction.

OR

You simply did not create enough of a connection.

By allowing them a cool off period ( normal friendly chat) you're taking a big risk and if you haven't created a deep enough connection or the emotion from the initial attraction, its easy for them to let time put out the fire.

Also, I've noticed alcohol was involved both times, this could be another reason, its very easy for a drunk girl to kiss a guy, even without any type of connection or attraction. Then when they sober up the next day, they may have remorse and not want to be rude so they make up the "I'm busy" response and hope that you will eventually give up but they save face and don't appear to be rejecting you just too busy. It's best to confront them on that response.


In response to her "Can I let you know next week" comment. Do not accept these questions, you must take control, you could say something like.

"I'll give you two days, otherwise I am gonna make other plans".
"You can try, but I can't make any promises"
"How about this, you send me a text when you're free and i'll try to make it happen". If I don't hear from you in awhile, i'll just assume you decided to miss out".


In both your cases you could of also straight up asked them something like this.

"Hey I don't mind waiting for ya, I understand being busy, trust me, but I don't want to be waiting around for nothing, so if you're as intrigued to see me again as I am with you, tell me now and I'll stick around till we figure it out"


To eliminate your frustrations, simply eliminate the variables. Either call them out, or put it on them to contact you to meet up. Either way, you'll get the answers you seek, good or bad. Just be sure to have a calm and relaxed frame so you don't come off as hostile or needy.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

SexAddict911 - I slept with G1 on the 2nd night after I had fallen asleep on the first or it would have happened then.
Thanks for this, this is the type of thing I was looking for!
These two in particular:
"I'll give you two days, otherwise I am gonna make other plans".
"You can try, but I can't make any promises"

As for G2, she had already arranged her friend to pick her up (she lives miles out of town and was staying at hers for the night) so I don't think sex was ever on the cards. This girl is super hot and from what I know about her she doesn't put out so easy. Im happy how the night went overall.

Alcohol was involved both times with G1, and just the second date with G2.

Like I said, I know G1 likes me but is making me work for it (above responses will help a lot), G2 im 99% she will see me again but I know I have to play it just right.

I know that I may have shown a little too much interest but how can I recover?

So I guess the second and third are the hardest then. At some pt I think we have to realize theres not much we can do in between encounters. But when you do talk to them call rather than text and be a boss. Hopefully you got them to like you enough while you were with them that it will be easy to see them again. I don't like trying to persuade girls to meet me after this point. I hope that I've charmed them enough where they want to and its not hard work to get them to see you again. I'm a proponent of not trying to convince girls too much to go out with me rather just hopefully attracting them while I was with them. Makes things easier. Obviously if its like pulling hair to get them to go out with you again- I'd cut them loose - which is hard to do at the time.

This is my philosophy and I won't claim to be an expert just a thoughtful individual.

OK quick update if anyone is interested to see what happened.

G1 - Never got back to me. No way im contacting her again. In fact I went out with some of her friends/my friends at the wknd and now have a date with one of her friends later this week (If that doesn't work out and I get a booty call from the G1 tho, I will no doubt say yes haha)

G2 - She contacted via email at work (diff companies) RE work stuff (she is a customer of ours), I just kept the conversation minimal and kept it more work related for the last week. This morning I got an email asking to see me again soon. Happy days!

No alcohol planned for any of the dates set, but I will say dating is about me as well and I enjoy drinking so im not gunna stop the meeting for drink dates, they are fun and casual.