PUA is nothing more than fear-based, instilling the idea in guys that what they have to offer is not enough and that they have to apply a bunch of techniques to masquerade around as 'alpha males' to be a viable prospect for the women they desire.

What's ingenious about this sham is it appeals to the lack within most of us have, convinced we need to fill it with something external (e.g., goods and services - in short, being good consumers). Convince someone they are lacking something (which isn't very hard to do when they are already insecure in themselves and in need of external validation), and then tell them you have the fix/solution to remove or 'fill' that lack.

The hard truth for some of you is that pickup DOES NOT WORK. I can write a pickup manual in one line..."Women are drawn to confidant guys" - All this means is to live purposefully, live consciously (not allowing thoughts and feelings to consume you), go out there and figure out what values are important to you, who you want to be and pursue that, in short finding yourself as cliché as that may sound.

PUA is all about the quick fix, it is AT BEST a short-term panacea to loneliness but has no formulae for turning something into a real relationship, which is more egalitarian than anything else. Many so-called techniques espoused by self-proclaimed PUA gurus (who typically have no way of verifying their success to you, but rather are simply assumed to be successful with women) are designed to hit on a woman's inferiority 'buttons' so your perceived value becomes higher than hers. A lot of women are bemused with guys who use PUA techniques, and in fact will likely talk about you among her friends but more so to share in the laugh than speak about anything remotely flattering, at worse you'll come off as creepy. How is lowering one's self-esteem a healthy way of creating a potentially long-lasting fulfilling relationship? It isn't.

And for the guys who proclaim all they want is 'sew' their wild oats, you need not have any particular technique to go into a club and get laid as that's pretty much as hard as keeping afloat in a kiddie pool.

This will be too hard for many of you to accept, but PUA does not work.

It might not work for you, but it works for me, and I'm sure it works for many others on this forum. Although I do agree with your point about confidence, and that pretty much all game boils down to that one simple thing.
But if a number of techniques that you deem useless actually help someone feel and become confident, then what does it matter if the routine itself isn't great?

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In the main I agree with you, however don't tar everyone with the same brush.

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I'm "tarring" the technique, not the people who use it.

So this is where I stopped reading your post. This is one of the most annoying things people do. They form this entire argument and they base it on a starting premises that is immensely wrong and which they simply do not understand.


Much like people who counter evolution theories with the starting premises of "DUUUH ,I didn't evolve from no monkey.You don't see monkeys giving birth to humans today duuuh".

So you basically have no clue of what it is you talk about , but in your utter ignorance you do it regardless , no matter how pathetic you initial premises is and no matter how much you lack any deep understanding of the subject whatsoever.


But hey , who knows , maybe you're right. Maybe actually putting some effort into getting better at something you suck at is actually detrimental to ones self. It's not like anyone ever accomplished anything in their life by dedication and determination to improve,right ?

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Your statements lack rationale and are entirely emotion-based. Using the example of counter-evolutionary theory is more relevant to your reaction than my post. You state that my assertion is pathetic assailing my opinion yet offer nothing to counter it, other than making characterizations and sweeping generalizations.

Predictable.

Much to your chagrin, I am neither.

I thought it was a wide variety of techniques, methods, and systems used to allow PUA's to show what they have to offer.

And if you were drowning in pussy, you wouldn't be online complaining about this.

You say this, so please respond to my previous point of:

But if a number of techniques that you deem useless actually help someone feel and become confident, then what does it matter if the routine itself isn't great?

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The issue I have with techniques as they are panaceas or 'quick-fixes' if you will, rather than offering any real positive change. Techniques and routines cannot supplant or make-up for any perceived shortcomings you may have, rather they only perpetuate inauthenticity. There's no supplement for working on yourself and being an authentic person and techniques and routines will never be able to afford you that, in fact they'll do quite the contrary (in imbuing with the notion that what you have to offer is never good enough); in some sense relying on this is like chasing a phantom and a form of enabling behavior that will have you relying on others for material in order to maintain a relationship that's been built on inauthenticity.

I'm not "drowing in pussy" nor would I want to be. STDs aren't really hot, at least to me.

I've been in a relationship for the past 5 months, which I consider far more of a success than gaming a girl for a night of empty and meaningless sex to temporarily satiate my feelings of inadequacy, much like an addict filling his veins with heroin for short-term relief only to be searching for the next-best high once the effects of the self-induced euphoria wear off.

You do not understand what the game is and it is obvious from your statements and your actions that this is the case. Those who are good at the game quickly learn that the game is not about women although they are the initial motivation that gets you into it. You quickly find that to be better at the game(and consequently with women) you must be better at being the person who you want to be. Inner game is what makes someone a master PUA not gambits and tricks. Any real guru will tell you as much. You can't fill a hole with another hole.

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Operationalize "game" because it's defined differently by different people. I'm going by the "game" nomenclature as outlined in the book penned by Neil Strauss. I think the "inner game" you speak of is more along the lines as to what's put forth by Social Dynamics, and more congruent with becoming one's own person, rather than applying layers of techniques and routines to overcompensate for any perceived shortcomings.

Oh transgender, my bad, no hard feelings good luck

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