Of all of the online dating sites I've been using Zoosk has been perhaps the most difficult. It's the hardest site to strike conversation on, and the one that bates you into paying for it the most. I've had one date from a woman on Zoosk, and another potential date that I could've set up but I found myself not attracted to the second female.

However, I find myself using terrible tactics on this website. The problem seems to be that non-paying members can only see "x" amount of message. So most people will not pay to see more than "x" amount message. So your stuck only sending txt "x number". I can't even imagine how many troves of men send women these types of messages daily. Occassionally you get a cute girl who will send a message that says "txt x number". And you follow the lead. It's how I scheduled my first date.

However, I would really like to know if there is a better way, or if I'm trapped. It's not like I don't have a job. I'd be willing to pay eventually, but with school almost finishing I find it useless to do it now and a distraction. My friend did subscribe and said that he achieved greater success, but I've yet to verify his claims with hard research and evidence. I'll keep you all posted.

I feel like I tell this to every guy who posts about this online dating bullshit... what type of women do you really expect to meet online? all you will find is the ones that NOBODY ELSE WANTS

Should he change the title of the thread to "what kind of woman will I meet online"?

This is a completely false belief seeing as I meet a gorgeous woman with a career from zoosk bro. She was nice, had an excellent personality. However, she wanted stable long term commitment and I couldn't give that. I'm not even complaining about the quality of women so your conjecture is irrelevant. The only thing I'm looking to do is to actually meet up with some more quality women. And I'm wondering if anyone has achieved this using zoosk. And if so, how? If you have nothing useful to say, feel free to eject yourself from the conversation. Thanks

P.S. for anyone who doesn't know, this MajikalMethod guy is just another field instructor trying to sell products. I wouldn't really take his words with too seriously. Does that mean he's bad? Of course not, but in terms of online dating, the guy knows zilch.

Jowee, you're usually helpful. Have you used zoosk with any sort of success? If so, let me know what you did. It could be very beneficial and insightful.

No, sorry. I haven't touched Zoosk yet.

A few years ago I started using either Match or eHarmony, can't remember witch, because a report came out showing that pay sites have a better female:male ratio. However, that was a few years ago. PoF and OKC have exploded in popularity in the last year, and they are both free yet generating a ton of money. I think it's only a matter of time before all pay dating sites are completely antiquated.

I find that statement ironic, because many websites are actually increasing the amount of functions that users have to pay for. Even youtube, at one point most things were free, now select movies and services cost. In plenty of fish you can't even look up intimate encounters (sex) without paying. It used to be free. I actually see the exact opposite trend occurring. Of course I may be wrong, but then again, I hope I'm wrong. Because if your right it would make my life a hell of a lot easier.

Thanks for the info. I might actually delete my account then.

You met A (meaning one, single, uno, less than 2, more than 0) gorgeous woman with a career.... Whoopdy fucking do. Don't come on here tryin to bash me homie. What I am telling you is that YOU PUTTING YOURSELF ON AN ONLINE DATING SITE COMPLETELY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR WOMEN... When you approach a set... you don't say (or atleast I would hope you don't) "Hey guys, I'm looking for a girlfriend. Which one of you is single and looking for a boyfriend?" That's essentially what you are doing with online dating.

Online dating is for guys who are TOO SCARED to actually go up to a fucking girl and don't know how to express themselves in the right way. Not someone who knows pick-up. You're better than that shit bro. You will find THE SAME TYPE OF WOMEN on these sites. NO MATTER WHICH SITE IT IS! All I am simply trying to tell you, is that you are wasting your time because maybe..... MAYBE.... 1 out of 645984651635 women on a dating site might be real or even remotely interesting. You are CREATING MORE COMPETITION for yourself because EVERY guy on that dating website, sees the same girl and she will INSTANTLY forget who you are once you say one lame thing because her inbox is completely filled with messages from other guys. Where as... In a bar/club/mall/street/store etc...

Most guys don't have the fuckin stones to even APPROACH a girl, and you can blow her fucking mind within minutes and create REAL attraction by using some pick up tactics and techniques. No matter what you put on your profile, no matter what type of messages you send... You can't do the same thing as a face to face conversation. Period. So really, pick up/seduction/nlp/natural game whatever the fuck you want to use... NONE of the shit you know will work with online dating. Its luck. It is IMPOSSIBLE to gauge emotions, create attraction, and build some comfort and rapport with a girl through a computer or even through a cell phone.

The same amount of time you spend trying to get a girl to meet up with you from POF, adult friend finder, zoosk, pick your poison... You could go out somewhere, meet a girl and get an instant date with a girl you just met and figure out if she is something you want FIRST HAND. GIRLS LIE ON THE INTERNET!!!!!! (they lie face to face too... but that's easier to pick up on than through 160 characters lol)

It may be because I treat PUA a little bit differently and am pretty tactical with my game. I've always been a very analytic person.

There's an old quote that I like from Varsity Blues.... "If you want quality vag, you have to go out into the wild and hunt for it."

To each his own... I'm simply putting in my 2 cents because I try and help. But don't expect any "Advice" you'll get off a pick up forum to work at all with online dating.

Dude to keep this as short and sweet as possible, none of what you said is relevant to me and quite frankly several other posters. Some guys do use online dating because they are afraid of approaching women. I couldn't find that to be further from the truth in my case. I've been doing PUA for about 4 years now. And I can honestly say that my best results have come from using telecommunications devices. Now, when I went on that date it didn't go perfect, but I found myself escalating and making eye contact a lot easier. I've been approaching women for literally years. So clearly approaching wasn't an issue for me. In fact, I would say it was one of the easiest things I've learned because growing up I would always do things I was afraid of doing. Just a habit I established as a kid.

The real reason most men with success use online dating, is that time and reality prevent us from going out on a "FREQUENT" basis and meeting women. Even if I wanted to pick up in public, I would have to use time I don't have. Using the internet literally cuts down on time. I don't have time to go out and meet women, point blank. With my graduation coming up, me getting a new job, and me preparing to establish myself financially, I don't have time to go out and chase women. It's a time consuming exercise. Now do I strike up conversations regularly? Of course, do I sometimes close in public without meeting the woman online? Of course. But it is unrealistic to assume that everyman has the time for it. Maybe at some point, but right now I'm at a busy and stressful time in my life where going out and meeting women is just not an option on a "FREQUENT" basis. It doesn't mean I don't do it at all. It just means it doesn't happen as much as I'd like it to.

As for the advice not working, BS. If it works once it'll work again. Furthermore, there are several men on this forum that have achieved success online. In other words, I respect your opinion, but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Just my two cents

P.S. you may be great in the field, but online is a completely different game bro. In real life, just approaching women with confidence sets you apart from other men. Online how you display yourself is what sets you apart from other men.

Tips on using Zoosk:

Stop being a pussy and go out and meet women face to face. You'll get more confidence sarging random women than going on dating sites. Period.

Use your head for a sec, until everyone and their grandmothers are doing it, there will always be a negative stigma for online dating because its so fucking AFC. That's their whole selling point, "Can't get a girl face to face? Try lying to her online!"

Practice some skills online, but it shouldn't be half of your game if you call yourself a PUA.

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Bingo.

Lawls, you didn't clearly read shit I wrote. But anyway man, I asked about zoosk. The plan is to scrap the account. It's not useful and the website requires money to operate.

I just Created a fake chick Zoosk Account, no joke i had 20 phone numbers and about 40 chat requests within about 5 mins from all across the UK, this is with no description because it hadn't been approved yet! and no response from me, if I was to send 1 reply to every guy it would be a full time job! My advice would be to avoid Zoosk like the Plague.

The funny thing is, I have a lot of success on zoosk. Chicks just randomly drop their numbers on me sometimes. Sometimes some really cute girls. But I agree, I won't use Zoosk extensively anymore because it is a trap. It's hard to convey meaning and value on the website. I'll just have to let random girls drop outta the sky for me.

I don't believe you, or you don't know how to use these sites. Had you made an account you would have seen that replies 95% of the men send out messages that are basically say the same thing; "Hello, my name is Billy-Bob, wanna chat?" There is no reason at all that you should be concerned about that if you have even the slightest idea as to how to open online.
That is just fucking ludicrous. I can send out 20 messages on on OKCupid in about 15 minutes. It takes me the same amount of time just to shower to go out. I can then wait for replies and message them back while I'm at work. All messaging is done during the day or early evening hours. I can get to Day 2 without even putting on pants.