Something about POF just really pissed me off. I haven't even noticed this until now and it's said, but it's a fast way to piss guys off and send them away. I just recently found out that POF no longer allows for normal users to seperate users who strictly want intimate encounters. This option is now only available to those who pay. These dating websites are starting to get sleezier and sleezier. First they make you pay for add-ons. And everybody is like that's fine. I don't need add ons. But then they make you pay for stuff you semi-need but not really, like to see if someone read your mail or not. But it's like hey I'll live without that. But then they start making you pay for search features? Man that's bull shit, and they know that the search features aren't even good. I'm going to see if this is only for guys or this rule applies to women too. Because this is really shitty.

I'm starting to feel that the quality of online dating websites slowly degrades with time. When I first used them four years ago, they were great and there was like a flow of women. Ironically I had dates on the website that I just never set up. But now it seems like you have to do more and more just to talk to women, and now more just to be able to do basic stuff. I'm definately planning to go back to field game. Online game is simply not enough on its own to acquire women. I really am not a big fan of field game because that requires that I leave the house, and go out. But these websites are leaving me with little choice. Anyway. I'm am still playing to report my results soon. I just wanted to let you guys know how crappy some of these sites are getting.

Online game was never a replacement for real-world interaction, just a supplement. It still is, though I do agree that it has gone down hill. I've been out since 2011, as I was in a very fulfilling relationship. Prior to that, I found online sites to be great resources, though I only used them for maybe 6 months, if that long. But in that period I had 4 number closes, all 4 resulting in dates, 2 Day 2's, and one full-close (year plus relationship), all from online sites. That's not too bad considering you can number-close without wearing pants or showering.

Now I've come back, and online has taken a step downward. I've had almost no success using the same openers and follow-ups that I did previously. I think a large factor in this is the number of messages a target gets. I have proof of that, btw. Posted in another thread.

I'm considering supplementing my game with some online profiles. Any suggestions on sites, or should I not even waste the time?

It's a lot more work than you're thinking Adonis. It requires some focus. Not total focus. It's good to have regular street game to get you distracted from online. Pics and stuff need to be good. Profile messages can be good as well.

I appreciate your honesty. I feel that I could benefit from some pointers on a profile or websites though. At the moment, I work two jobs and go to school. If I'm not at school or work, I'm at the gym. My opportunities for street game are not as abundant as I would like.

Online dating is a waste of time and doesn't help your nightgame/daygame skills or confidence. Online dating is basically the new Chat Room, a way to kill time. Most girls are just attention whores, flakes, fakes and psychos but since most of you don't want to believe that try it for yourself.

I will take your advice, and not waste my time.

OG_Kdub has an opinion. Online game as I've said before does require a lot of effort. But is excellent for those who are bound by their present situations. Such as not being able to go out as much, or not having a lot of time. Online is a reliable way to meet women. I have meet a woman, and almost met another in only a month. Another member RedBaron has met several women. It is a reliable way to meet women if you are adaptable and you have the patience to deal with the bs online gives to you.

However, be warned, if you do not have patience, getting flaked on is not your forte, then I'd advise that you go out and field game. Online is not for everyone. I personally don't have the time to go out and game in the field personally. On occasion I do, but those times are few and in between. Online is an excellent way to keep your opening and conversation skills up. there are many bonuses to doing things online. However, there are also many negatives.

I'd say if you were already questioning whether or not you should use an online medium, then perhaps you should not use it. Some people don't like online. I personally disagree with OG_Kdub, and think he's allowing his own poor personal experiences cloud his judgment on the effectiveness of online dating. Online dating is a great way to meet women with minimum time investment and energy. If this sounds good to you, do it. If you like the excitement and fun of random and unexpected live encounters, then just do field game. I would recommend each, since both can influence how you conduct the other.

Sounds like some solid input. Based on your experience, what are some solid tips to get the most out of online dating?

Be proactive and fearless. Get to the point. Online game is a combination of a number game, luck and look. The more message you send the better odd you will get. The more direct you are, the less time you will waste.

And by direct, I don't mean send a "Wanna fuck?" to 500 women like every other horn dog out there does. But in fact, have some qualifiers and good inner game while conveying your intention CLEARLY.

Your mindset should be "I'm doing it for extra laids, fun and to experimenting new routine, and by no mean it is a replacement for day game"

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Make sense. Above and beyond numbers game. With some swag and enough attempts, something's got to give. Thanks for the input.