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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:38 am 
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Freaks can be fun, but they will always cross your boundaries, in a relationship, forcing you to ditch them or become beta.
Good Girls will test your boundaries, but they will respect them, allowing you to have a healthy relationship with them.

Never allow your boundaries to be crossed. ie its not ok for her to:
-refuse sex
-treat me with disrespect
-be physically violent towards me
-take me for granted
-disrespect me in public
What are your boundaries?

Never try to change a girl. Accept who she is and decide what sort of relationship she is suitable for based on that.
-If she is a party girl then she may not be suitable for an LTR. Treat as FB only.
-If she has LSE and seeks validation by overtly flirting with men. Again probably not suitable for LTR, treat as FB/MLTR only.
-If she hates to cook, clean, etc. Depends on your preferences.
etc

Be aware of the Bait and Switch. Ie she says she loves threesomes, anal sex, giving blowjobs, cooking etc. then down the track says “i could never share you with another woman now that we are serious” or “I hate giving blow jobs”. This is very common. She should be nexted at the FIRST sign of ‘switching’. Never let it slide.

Exclusitivity is your gift to her. If you choose to give her this gift it must be at an extremely high cost (even if you want it yourself). Never give her exclusitivity for free. Let her know that you are only exclusive to her so long as she keeps you 100% happy. Name your conditions to which she is to agree to (she will).

The pattern of behaviour you set during the early stages of the relationship is what she will expect forever. Eg if you:
-See her 5 days a week you will get resistance if you try reducing it to 3 or 4.
-EVER want to fuck her in the ass it MUST be within the first few months (preferably first few fucks).
-contact her frequently you will get resistance when you contact her less.
-choose to hang with her over your friends all the time you will get resistance when you want to hang with friends.
Keep it light from the beginning. Resist the urge to see her/speak to her all the time. You can always amp it up later on.

She should be fighting for your time.
She should be requesting meets most of the time.
You should be the one turning down meet requests, not her.
Always keep her wanting more (of you).
-As an example my girl ALWAYS wants to see me and is constantly pinging me for some time together. I just respond when I want to see her.

The more contact you have with her the faster her attraction for you drops. No matter how alpha you are.

Always be leading. You are the captain of the ship. Tell her what to wear, what to cook, where you are eating, what the activities for the day will be. Women will take over the role of leader when you fail to lead yourself. Frequently failing to lead will result in her seeing you as a child and losing respect/attraction for you.

Never tell her never. Eg.
-You never want a 'serious' relationship
-You never want kids
-Never want to get married
-Never want to live together
Instead tell her how you feel in the moment, and that you don’t know what the future holds. Allow her to have hope.

Never allow the frame that sex is something she gives to you. Eg:
-as a reward
-'birthday blowjobs'
-'if you win x bet, ill give you a blowjob'.
Fuck her before taking her out somewhere, or giving her a gift, rather than after.

Some attempts to make you jealous are ok and natural. Excessive attempts are disrespectful and LSE behaviour.

Emotions like jealousy/neediness are ok, but keep them to yourself and never let them dictate your actions.

Never use the term slut negatively (read up on Madonna/Whore complex). You love sluts.
Call her your filthy slut especially in the bedroom.

Have a MISSION in life. Something you value more than you could any woman. Your mission should be #1. A woman should NEVER be #1 priority in your life.

Have activities you enjoy just as much as hanging out with her (gym, sport, video games, whatever).
If you hang out with her and she starts being a pain in the ass, your first thought should be “I wish I was doing X instead”. Then if she continues, go do it.

If the energy between you is negative for any prolonged period of time, eject, go do something else until the energy between you is positive again.

If she doesn’t like that you smoke/drink/masterbate/watch porn/fuck other women etc that is HER problem, not yours. Any complaining/whining should NEVER get a response from you. Simply ignore/dismiss/eject/next. Never give a woman power to change you.

Women have no logical concept of fairness in a relationship. This is a male trait. Learn to dismiss it.
There is no meeting her half way.
There is no compromising. If you think its 50/50, she OWNS you.

Women base their decisions on EMOTION not LOGIC like men do. I could write a whole other post on this. This is why you see guys so confused at why their girl is saying one thing yet doing another.
Disregard what she SAYS, pay attention to her ACTIONS.
Do not respond to her words, respond to her emotions.
Discussions about her behaviour are useless unless enforced with ACTION ie NEXTING.

NEVER lie to her. Lying to keep a woman happy is one of the most beta things a man can do. It shows you are a pussy and terrified to lose her.

Always give her (subtle) reasons to think you could be fucking someone else.
Never let her think you have no other options.

Always be using push/pull to balance comfort/tension.
Too much pull = Comfort = security = boredom = attraction drops.
Too much push = insecurity = your attainability is too high = she gives up (this is rare, 95% of guys err on the side of too much pull).
Push = be distant/distracted, ignore texts/calls, contact her less, see her less, flirt with other women in front of her, have other options, NEXT her.
Pull = Compliments, affection, more contact, see her more, gifts, make love etc

If she pushes, push even harder. Never respond to a push with a pull. ie She starts contacting you less, so you pick up the slack and start contacting her more = fail.

Maintain some mystery about you.
There should regularly be times she does not know where you are, what your doing or who you are with.

Allowing her to bring out strong negative emotions in you is beta. Removing your attention is alpha.
Never engage in arguments/fights.

Reward and Punish via giving or withdrawing your attention.
ANY attention you give her is a reward to her, even if its negative attention. Withdrawal of attention is punishment to her.
If she pisses you off, REMOVE your attention/affetion. If she pleases you, give her lots of attention/affection.

She is allowed to be upset, she is allowed to voice concerns or complaints, but only in a mature and respectful manner.

Mark her period cycle on your calendar (VERY useful).

When you next be fully prepared to never hear from her again.
Its much better to let her initiate contact after a next.
Allow her to experience some emotional pain. Just because she is crying/upset does not mean you have done wrong. Women prefer BAD emotions to NO emotions.

Nextable offenses:
-Denial of sex. This is HUGE. NEVER let this slide.
-Phsyical violence.
-Disrespect.
-Drama.
-She is no longer fun to be around.
-She is getting too comfortable (in the relationship).
-You get needy
-She fucks up
-You fuck up

If she ever leaves or threatens to leave, wish her the best (genuinely) and let her go.

Dominate her.
Make her call you daddy.
Cum on her face.
Make her swallow your load.
Use toys.
Push her sexual boundaries.

Never doubt you can find another woman just as special.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:11 am 
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Great stuff kller.

Until my current relationship, I also believed that exclusivity was a gift. I now think this is a misguided mindset, as there was not a single time it benefited me in any way besides the social validation of being able to say I had a real "girlfriend." Which also turned out to be BS, since I sometimes refer to my OLTR as my girlfriend anyway.

You're spot on about the early frame being what she will expect later, and that it can be literally anything. The only thing I disagree with is that "if you want anal, blowjobs, etc, these need to happen right away."

A. most guys should want and require this stuff anyway.

B. if you create the context correctly, you can have whatever kind of sex you want, whenever you want to have it

Last critique (and I hope you take it that way, I know tone is hard to tell over text), is that if you're not a monogamy guy, I don't think it is fair to "give them hope." I tell many girls that I will never be their boyfriend, or husband, and speak openly of my thoughts on what a shitty bargain marriage is for a man.

Turns out it really increases trust in you to know exactly where they stand, and the best part (for them) is that since they know all the conditions ahead of time, they really do feel free to take it and enjoy the ride, or pass and move on. Some pass and come back later :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:42 pm 
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Great stuff kller.

Until my current relationship, I also believed that exclusivity was a gift. I now think this is a misguided mindset, as there was not a single time it benefited me in any way besides the social validation of being able to say I had a real "girlfriend." Which also turned out to be BS, since I sometimes refer to my OLTR as my girlfriend anyway.

You're spot on about the early frame being what she will expect later, and that it can be literally anything. The only thing I disagree with is that "if you want anal, blowjobs, etc, these need to happen right away."

A. most guys should want and require this stuff anyway.

B. if you create the context correctly, you can have whatever kind of sex you want, whenever you want to have it

Last critique (and I hope you take it that way, I know tone is hard to tell over text), is that if you're not a monogamy guy, I don't think it is fair to "give them hope." I tell many girls that I will never be their boyfriend, or husband, and speak openly of my thoughts on what a shitty bargain marriage is for a man.

Turns out it really increases trust in you to know exactly where they stand, and the best part (for them) is that since they know all the conditions ahead of time, they really do feel free to take it and enjoy the ride, or pass and move on. Some pass and come back later :D
Hey CTM!

I'd say that if you tell a girl you would never be anything serious and she sticks around it means (despite what she says) she doesn't fully 100% believe you (the disney force is stronger than you think my friend). However if she DOES 100% believe you then she will likely just blow herself out right then or in the near future (unnecessarily imo). Edit: Unless she already has a BF/husband (provider) then your good.

I personally think its more honest to say what you feel in the now, and that you dont know what future holds (who really does?).


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:21 am 
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[quote]Women base their decisions on EMOTION not LOGIC like men do. I could write a whole other post on this./quote]

Would you be kind to write this post so everyone here can benefit?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:55 pm 
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Mike you write one :lol:


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Nice bits here!

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