Just started a new topic up with the same girl. Kinda stuck as to what to respond next:

ME; The worst song ever just came on and it made me think of you
Her: That must be the nicest thing i've heard all day. what song?
ME: intro the XX. Rough day at the office?
Her: that is def not the worst song ever. Its actually been quite the quiet day thankfully



I dont know what to follow up with. please help

She negged you, which means you weren't as cozy as you thought, or she is running game.

I think you have to turn the neg against her, or negatively reinforce that behavior by just not responding.

You could also try to spin it positively, like with cocky funny for example, but that still gives her the advantage somewhat, and doesn't quite get you back up to par with where you were.

Honestly.... something I've been using recently... and I do this in italics if it's online

that really hurt my feelings..

But honestly, not as a joke. Make her believe it. She will feel bad and seek to validate.

It doesnt matter if you seem weak because now shes in the "tender woman" emotional role as opposed to the uh... "princess" role.

And later when she realizes you were just screwing her, "payback."

Worst case scenerio, you seem funny and able to express emotions. Win win.

Lol that's hilarious good job.

You negged her and she was funny about it, haha. She is confident enough to tell you differently later. Sounds like a great catch.

Keep teasing her though, don't let her dequalify your neg so easily, grrrrr.

Also, I think you might have gotten scared when you said "intro the XX" and instead of waiting for a response you rescued her with giving her something else to topic switch to.

At this point I'd prob just not respond for a while. Fast shifting topics can be sort of hard to deal with, and, you just opened up a fluff topic "how was her day at work."

You could still do something if you wanted, but I don't know what.

Grr. I have a couple ideas but none of them real winners. Let me know if you want to brainstorm

These are both awesome tips. thank you very much. I def did get scared after I responded with "intro the xx". I need to build my confidence that she will reply to things that arent questions.

I may have screwed this up after a few drinks last night.

so my response back to her 40 mins later was

Me: Its up there. some friends and i are getting drinks tonight in williamsburg join us
(15 mins later) Her: Im meeting a firend whos visiting from cali in tribeca for drinks later...come there
(30 mins later) me: maybe afterwards. i feel like smoking
(30 mins later) her: thats always a possibility. lets be in touch

(4 hours later at 12am) Me: whats up
(1.5 hrs later) Her: hey i just got home whats up with you
(15 mins later) ME: st. james hotel - im bringing some fun stuff over - address?

NO RESPONSE. Called her once to folllow up, no answer.

then this morning HER: sorry was asleep last night...called it any early night


I havent responded yet. I know I acted needy by texting her after she said she got home. I was drunk, i should have ignored it. I should have resisted.

Now what?

Any help?

You still have her interest, so you're good.

She seemed to want you to hang out with friends (not very personal)

And you seemed to want to go to her house (very personal)

Ironically, if you both meet in the middle of what you want (somewhat personal), it would be a 1 on 1 interaction outside of her home.

Maybe ask her out for a drink just you and her. You could try the push pull, and since you've been pushing a lot, you could let her know you are interested and want some 1 on 1 time with her. "I like the way your eyes sparkle and I'd like get you alone for a drink so I don't have to share you"

Something that shows you are interested with her beyond just another girl, but said in a way that is more Don Juanish than AFC ish.

Push/ Pull perhaps..

We all have that drunk moment, it is all PUA's weakness. You could of brought up a crazy DHV story of what just happened that night and the fact she didn't join you, she missed out. DO NOT say it though, don't try to guilt trip her.

But that time probably came and passed. In regards to the 1v1 thing. You could always try the marshmallow opener and try to get a date out of it. Honestly, I am not the 100% best at text game - im new to the game in general and text game is a whole different ballpark.

Here are some of my favorite websites with text game stuff you can try on her:

http://samvincente.com/pua-text-game
http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-g ... text-game/

Maybe those will help.

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Sooooo.....I never responded to her apology text on sat morning saying "sorry fell asleep...made it an early night" and then today she wrote "What are you up to tonight?"

I am traveling for work and it is already 9:30pm should I even respond? I think not right?

definitely respond. the thing is, a no response to a text like that could just cause her to think you have no interest and shell stop texting you to protect herself.

wait a bit then respond with something like, "busy all night, gotta do some traveling for work, are you going out tonight?"

if she says yes then you can respond with some cocky/funny "well, i know itll be hard, but try to have some fun without me tonight."

Yes, there is. It's on David DeAgnelo's material.

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I did. Said "Out of town this week. Make yourself available this weekend."
she responds immediately "cool sounds good"

Last night, we went out. First met at a bar, had great kino, great conversation, made friends with the bartender and got free shots. Just a great all around time at the bar. Then we met up with my friends and we all went clubbing. At the club we danced together and made out a bit. Then I took her home, we smoked pot, then hooked up again. She wouldn't let me have sex with her but went to "third base" a bunch. She didn't do anything for me. Again, this girl is a HB 10. what the hell am i doing wrong? This is the second time in a row ive gone to third base with her but she hasnt let me have sex with her.

I asked her why she doesnt want to and she said "do i have to?" i said "no you dont have to" and left it at that. In the morning she was playing with my hair ( i have long thick soccer player hair) and very touchy feely on my body and playing footsie in bed. so i know she likes me but the sex thing is annoying me...

Any ideas?

she has her standards and wont fuck that quickly...possibly a keeper....

Good Point. So how do i play it now?

We've hooked up twice. I don't want to chase her, I kind of want her chasing me so she thinks I'm the man, which I am. I figure with HB 10s you gotta let it chill and let them come after you....right?

I had dinner with a girl friend yesterday who said she must really like me if she isnt having sex with me yet. She said that the reason she hasnt is bc she wants me to stay interested in her, to respect her and some other shit. Well, I guess its working....bc I cant stop thinking about her....but at the same time, what if she just doesnt like me? How do I know the difference?


Should I reach out to her? Or should I play it cool?

I dont want her to think I am not interested but at the same time I do want her to think I am independent and not thinking about her too much.