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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:51 am 
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So i've been in game for 3 months roughly. I've gotten maybe 5 instadates , maybe like 50 numbers and NO day 2s. I daygame by the way. I don't get it , i am decent looking , get complimented regularly ( not even trying to be vain , just to give an insight ) , i'm no midget either.

Thing is , i close after a couple mins , sometimes like in a minute as their in a hurry so i quickly squeeze the number out. Other times we talk for like 10-20 mins and then we exchange numbers on the presence of seeing each other again. I text...NO RESPONSE. After a couple days , i text again/ call , no response AT ALL! I'd say maybe 10 or so replied , most of them giving cold replies and stuff. FEW go well and then when we set up a day 2 boom...they disappear.

Even like , the ones i instadate , we make plans to see each other again and boom..they flake.

Really please , enlighten me guys , i havent got a clue what's going on !


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:31 am 
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Game can take time. Have you tried just building a social circle?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:07 pm 
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Game can take time. Have you tried just building a social circle?
Thanks for the reply but i don't get the suggestion. I have a social circle. You mean just build a new social circle from scratch?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:57 am 
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Yup, same problem for me. I could probably get like 30-40 girls numbers in the span of a week and maybe 2-3 will say yes to a day 2 and those two will flake 90% of the time. Frustrating because a lot of the girls are initially super attracted to me looking at me like they want to bone and I'm like a ram in heat 24/7.


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So i've been in game for 3 months roughly. I've gotten maybe 5 instadates , maybe like 50 numbers and NO day 2s. I daygame by the way. I don't get it , i am decent looking , get complimented regularly ( not even trying to be vain , just to give an insight ) , i'm no midget either.

Thing is , i close after a couple mins , sometimes like in a minute as their in a hurry so i quickly squeeze the number out. Other times we talk for like 10-20 mins and then we exchange numbers on the presence of seeing each other again. I text...NO RESPONSE. After a couple days , i text again/ call , no response AT ALL! I'd say maybe 10 or so replied , most of them giving cold replies and stuff. FEW go well and then when we set up a day 2 boom...they disappear.

Even like , the ones i instadate , we make plans to see each other again and boom..they flake.

Really please , enlighten me guys , i havent got a clue what's going on !

I have very little experience of using day game as a way to get proper results (i.e day 2's and closes), though I have the habit of approaching both guys and girls for general self amusement purposes.

Unless your circumstances really stop you, I would strongly recommend you try parties and night game in general (if you are of student age go out to student nights especially). The difference is so striking, you basically have an environment where meeting girls is an expected event and is so conductive to going further than a hi blah blah here's my number type interaction. What's more is that it is much easier and arguably more appropriate to physically escalate. If you could take your skills from DG to the night you could become insanely good and get a lot of "proper" results.



On a side note: Nice to see that you have managed to get so many numbers and insta-dates on day game this must mean you are decently good at this and have BALLS which makes up so much of the game. Also that you are a One Piece fan :wink: . How old are you out of interest?

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So i've been in game for 3 months roughly. I've gotten maybe 5 instadates , maybe like 50 numbers and NO day 2s. I daygame by the way. I don't get it , i am decent looking , get complimented regularly ( not even trying to be vain , just to give an insight ) , i'm no midget either.

Thing is , i close after a couple mins , sometimes like in a minute as their in a hurry so i quickly squeeze the number out. Other times we talk for like 10-20 mins and then we exchange numbers on the presence of seeing each other again. I text...NO RESPONSE. After a couple days , i text again/ call , no response AT ALL! I'd say maybe 10 or so replied , most of them giving cold replies and stuff. FEW go well and then when we set up a day 2 boom...they disappear.

Even like , the ones i instadate , we make plans to see each other again and boom..they flake.

Really please , enlighten me guys , i havent got a clue what's going on !

I have very little experience of using day game as a way to get proper results (i.e day 2's and closes), though I have the habit of approaching both guys and girls for general self amusement purposes.

Unless your circumstances really stop you, I would strongly recommend you try parties and night game in general (if you are of student age go out to student nights especially). The difference is so striking, you basically have an environment where meeting girls is an expected event and is so conductive to going further than a hi blah blah here's my number type interaction. What's more is that it is much easier and arguably more appropriate to physically escalate. If you could take your skills from DG to the night you could become insanely good and get a lot of "proper" results.



On a side note: Nice to see that you have managed to get so many numbers and insta-dates on day game this must mean you are decently good at this and have BALLS which makes up so much of the game. Also that you are a One Piece fan :wink: . How old are you out of interest?
One piece is my favourite anime! I'm 18 , turning 19 in a month. Thing is i don't mind daygaming alone. It's pretty normal for people to be out alone during the day but i feel like a creep going out alone for nightgame lol.


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If you're always getting flaked, it's because you aren't gaming properly. You're failing to create attraction, and therefore girls are not interested and would rather ignore you than reject you. It could be a number of things you're doing wrong. Maybe you come off as too strong, perhaps too awkward, or not confident enough. Since, by your own accounts, you appear to be a decent guy that girls would generally go after, then try being yourself a bit more so that you can feel more at ease, as opposed to using robotic openers or scripts that just don't fit your personality. Eventually, you'll find a good balance between the pickup stuff you learned and your own personality.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:37 pm 
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...we make plans to see each other again and boom..they flake.
PLAN. That's one of the big problem in your sticking point. Women want romance. Women see romance as something random. It just happens. When you 'plan' dates, you kill any attraction or arousal that you have built (assuming you have already addressed this aspect of your game, if not, go to the PUA Lounge for some theories that really work on field. Check out the stickies.)

To solve the 'plan' aspect of your sticking point, reframe your dates/hangouts/whatever into something like: "I'm going to xxxxxx. It would be fun. Come along."

Another very effective line is "Let's go."

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:42 pm 
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And hellhound made me think... Perhaps you're too fixated on getting the numbers and getting dates. And once you obtain the number or date, you think you've reached your milestone so the job is done and think you can move onto the next milestone. But wrong. Your goal should be to create attraction, and only that. Only then will the numbers and dates matter.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:22 pm 
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And hellhound made me think... Perhaps you're too fixated on getting the numbers and getting dates. And once you obtain the number or date, you think you've reached your milestone so the job is done and think you can move onto the next milestone. But wrong. Your goal should be to create attraction, and only that. Only then will the numbers and dates matter.
I think this post may be close to the truth...thing is though , there's usually i time constraint during the day , people aren't usually free so how do i JUST keep creating attraction without getting the close?


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Time constraints don't mean much. Do you think a girl on rush to work who bumps into Ryan Gosling will still be in a rush to work? Well, you're probably not Gosling, but you have a chance to leave a good impression within the first couple seconds. If you don't, then that time constraint becomes both a reality, and an excuse to ditch you.

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I think this post may be close to the truth...thing is though , there's usually i time constraint during the day , people aren't usually free so how do i JUST keep creating attraction without getting the close?
Time constraints are not valid excuses not to sexually attract/arouse women. If you haven't read the PUA Lounge stickies yet of the Chief and Slywalker, please do so.

After doing those, checkout the scientific basis why the eye fuck routine works (immediately) here: how-to-make-a-woman-fall-in-love-with-y ... 89-15.html

The Chief, Slywalker, Ezo and Warp Mindless all have a load of techniques to arouse and/or sexually attract women. Most, if not all, of their techniques are grounded in science which basically means none of those are bullshit. If your circuits are not yet fried by information overload, also try to read SexAddict911's epic "I banged 3,007 women in 9 days" thread at the Miscellaneous section.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:31 am 
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I have the same problem, since we have a similar nr of approaches and a similar age.
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It's pretty normal for people to be out alone during the day but i feel like a creep going out alone for nightgame lol.
You should try nightgame. Go out a night alone in a club complex, at least once. There is way more practice, you can approach non-stop, you gain a lot of experience and build momentum.
If they ask about the friends, you can always say "oh my friends are down there", "oh my friend met this girl so he ditched me", etc . I actually tell people I come alone sometime.
Funny enough, I have similar results in nightgame- a lot of flakes and half-ass interactions, only spiked in the beginning when I open, then going on a downwards spiral. However you will see, the interaction gets much more physical, while the initial impact isn't as strong as in daygame.

The only thing I can think about is, if the attraction will vanish afterwards anyway, strike harder while the iron is hot.


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