OK so here's the story. Me and this girl dated for like 8 months when we were kids. I was shy-ish, and we only really kissed once. I never got the chance to see her much as her parents are real old skool, they never let her out of the house when she was like 15-16, and they still don't let her out years later (today). When we broke up 3-4 years ago, I just froze her out and moved on. Once I broke up with her coz her parents would never let her out, I just pushed her away. Moved on with my life. There was no point dating a girl who would never be able to see me.

Last year tho I msged her one day to see how she'd been. And the response was great. She told me she'd been wanting to hear from me, saying she'd missed me, but not in a flirty way, just a "oh how I've missed you!" sort of way. So we got talking again and I flirted here and there, and started calling her every now and then, and we became close again. But it was still difficult for her to meetup, nothing had changed. Then she msged me one night saying before we develop feelings for each other again, she wants me to know her parents are still the same and she won't ever be allowed out of her house, so she doesn't want what happened 3-4 years ago to happen again. And I wasn't impressed, so I froze her out for like 5 months after that. Msged her again last month, got talking again, and now she's started university in the city, this is perfect... As I live in the city too. So I can see her sometimes! She had orientation today and yesterday in the city for her course, and we planned last week for me to see her for a bit after her orientation, before she went home. Coz that's how we used to meetup, in secret from her parents lol.

Yesterday she texted me last min in the morning, and asked if I was free to meetup after her orientation. Which was a first from her. But we had planned to hang out today (the Thursday), not initially the Wednesday. So as I was busy, I just said no I can't do today, I'll see you tomorrow. (Which I hoped DHV).

Then today I met her, and she said we could go for a drink for just under a couple hours so she could get the train home and not be late. Which was cool. I mean I hadn't seen the girl for like 3-4 years and she's a beauty, so wasn't going to complain. Took her for a drink to one of my fav bars, and she usually doesn't touch alcohol, but I got her something nice, not strong, and she liked it. And we just sat and talked for an hour and a half. But we got along so well. She demonstrated all her original qualities in that hour and a half. Her sense of humour, our connection when we spoke, her beauty, her smartass comments (which is where we get along), etc.

Thing was, we were sitting across from each other, and I didn't have much time. So i did a bit of kino, touching her hands and stuff. And mind you, I'm the only guy she's ever kissed in her life, so she's not confident with kino etc. And she's never had a proper tongue kiss with a guy either, except pecking me years ago. So I didn't expect much of a response. But she didn't push me away with the kino either. And when we walked together, she was quite comfortable to walk next to me and touch me as we walked together. Which I took as an IOI.

So I took her to the station after, and she missed her train coz she stayed an extra 15min with me which I pretended not to realise when I saw my watch, and when we got there I had no time to sit with her and wait for the train... (Which is where I planned to K-Close her), as the train was coming. So she hugged me bye and that was it.

Here's the thing. She starts uni full time next week, so she'll always be in the city. I'm not sure if I wanna make this girl my girlfriend again, but I definitely wanna see her and experience the stuff we couldn't experience as kids.

I shouldn't of taken her to a bar today though, coz she was down for whatever. Should've just taken her to the river and K-Closed her there lol. Any tips/ideas where to take it from here? We usually text everyday, but should I cut down on the texts? Should I start being flirty in text messages again?

Anything's appreciated.

Thanks PUAs!

Sound like you are overthinking alot here and I sincerely think you are more of a romantic then a PUA.
A good tips I will give you, be a closer.
So plan dates always in terms of logistic.
start by where is the nearest cool desert or coffee shop or interesting bars or even shops really close to the fuck location (AKA your place). If you have no interesting things around your area, use funny internet video or old photo album instead.
Now from there where are a good casual activity place you can go that is with in walking distance of your place.
Bring her there, even if its just a freeking parc.

I will give you my example, I live in a residential area, only things around my place is a thai resto, flower shop, 7/11, a church and Jewish school.
So I bring my date to see the church, on the way to the church get her a 2$ rose and fake proposal near the church then go to thai resto but instead, I change idea and go get some snacks and maybe beers at the 7/11 then ask her to help me to bring home and once she is inside, is pretty much game over.

Dates dont need to be amazing, she just need to feel connected and needed.
As for kissing, you dont need to makeout on the street if you dont want to.

As for the relationship, just tell her you really like her, felt connected and she remind you of the good old times and you really want to spend your free times with her. But you dont want to rush into something you are not ready for. And Bam you are in a open relationship.

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You are doing well but your not testing for the kiss. If your touching her hands and giving her a hug then just go in for a kiss could be akward. Start testing by moving closer to her face see if she is interested in it. Calibrate. Dates are just reading her anyways getting the desired logistics and then closing. Your waiting to long to go for the escalations too.
You waited tell she is leaving to go for the kiss. That should of happened earlier.
Think of it as a progression. What is your end result.
To get her in bed? To kiss her? to get her number? What ever your end result is what you should be planning how to get there.
If you want to sleep with her you should plan to sleep with her a few hours before she leaves so you can get her there on time.
What that means is you have to speed up the kiss. Speed up the number. Speed up the touching.
These are all land marks, points you have to hit to get to the result you want. Hit them faster and you will see result improve.

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Heartnet, 1 thing I'll let you know is she's a virgin and she's kissed only me in her life, years ago. So F-Closing will be alot harder. Not that I won't try, but it's more something for me to work on down the road with this girl if you get me. I know what you mean by romantic, but I think the reason I come across like that is maybe I write too much or overthink too much as you said lol, I just put alot of effort into my writing. Sorry haha. I've been gaming girls/studying pua for years since I broke up with her but thought I'd talk to her again years later (now) and just see where things head to.

MavenPhaseshift you're right, I guess I should have kissed her earlier. But when you're sitting at the table with her at a bar on a rooftop, I was struggling to think of ideas to K-Close. If I was sitting with her in the park or the river then K-Closing probably wouldn't of been an issue for me coz I can touch her more.

But she did text me last night and tell me that she wants to do drinks again there but her shout this time, which I'm taking as another IOI. Only thing is, if we go to that bar again.. It's hard to K-Close when you're sitting at a table with her facing each other with people around. Any ideas on how I could suggest we go sit at the nearby park instead? Do you think she would realise what I'm getting at if I said I don't feel like going to a bar, and that I feel like just chilling on the grass somewhere instead? I guess what I'm asking is, would that make my intentions obvious?

Cheers

I'm not means an established pua like many of the guys here, but I have had a LOT of success with this kiss close. I usually do this after you have established a lot of comfort and it would really fit you as you seem to be a nice guy. Women have told me that it's the hottest thing that anyone has ever done, but it takes some balls. Go out somewhere where you can establish comfort. Casually mention, "you know, I love your lips... they look so... good." Then immediately follow up with something funny. For instance, I said this in a coffee shop, then immediately asked her what she wanted for dessert . Anyway, you're just dropping hints here and building sexual tension. Then when you walk her to her car/bus/train stop, you'll be maybe a half-block away, let her start getting ahead of you a bit. Now she should be next to something, like close to a building wall, or car, or tree, whatever. You then want to grab her shoulder and sort of spin her and push her back against the wall, or car, or whatever and just step in and kiss her.

One girl literally said "WOW!" after one of these. It's pretty effective and it conveys that you are a guy who knows what he wants and can step up and take it, which is perfect for a guy that a girl may see as a "nice guy"

Lol I love it! But you're right it will take some serious balls. We've been talking a bit and hopefully seeing her end of this week or next week coz I'm busy this week, but I'll let you know if I can do it!