Yeah man I really feel the same way. There were a few articles on Jeffy from RSD out recently. Just hilarious. Check out jezebel(dot)com and look up either Jeff Allen or jlaix.

These guys are frauds.

A reply from ElCoral on puahate(dot)com

"RSD claims to help guys get better with women but the reality is most guys come away from RSD far worse socially than when they started. The most common reaction to RSD teachings is spending months stuck inside your head and overanalyzing everything.

Most guys who encounter RSD/the community do not get over-involved in it. For guys like that, your reaction makes sense. You look over what RSD teaches and on a superficial level its common sense and resonates with your experience, so you shrug and ask what the big deal is.

Realize that your experience is not the same as everybody's. A minority of guys who encounter RSD/PUA shit in general get hooked by it and go way too far with it. These are the guys who decide to make a whole journey out of getting this part of their life handled. For guys like that, RSD is evil shit. Tyler's stuff in particular is designed to break down a guy's sense of self and sense of reality and get him hooked on spending large amounts of his time and money focusing on pickup. This would be all well and good if it actually worked, but it doesn't. Most guys have limited success, and for those that don't, its generally down to other factors than their supposed game.

Once you wake up to this - that you wasted large chunks of your life chasing a fantasy, aided and abetted by people who readily lied to you about what was possible - it’s natural to be angry. You might try to blame the angry guy, like "it’s his fault for falling for it," but the truth is the RSD stuff is custom-designed to hook in vulnerable guys who really need the help and provide them with the exact opposite of what they need. The guy is no more responsible than anyone who happens to get snared in by a cult. RSD deserves all of the scorn they get on this board and then some."

What is this person talking about? Have they ever watched any of their videos? RSD's biggest thing is going out and getting real life experience with women. They say that you can really only learn in person by doing and if you just study PUA stuff and don't go out, you'll get all f-ed in the head. PUA theory, etc is only there to help you put the pieces together and shorten your learning curve if you will. I couldn't agree with them more and that is in completely in conflict with what this post claims RSD is about. Who is really going to argue the validity of the concept of doing something more will get you better at it?

Tyler is the real mf'n deal...

he's somewhat of a naturalist and a purist in the game so his shit is kind of extreme and hard to wrap your brain around, but game is that dudes LIFE... he's more committed than anyone i've ever seen before, he has a psychotic level of motivation.

same thing with the whole RSD crew, their all awesome

the forum is not exactly where you want to go for advice, but the videos and free content they put out is amazing... if you don't understand it its probably cuz your not going out enough or talking to enough girls yet.

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None of you checked out that jezebel article about Jeffy did you? You'll find out exactly how good you can get after 10 years in the game following RSD material. Tyler is a narcissistic sociopath, but looks cool to losers with no real world experience.

Lol! Is he good? Tyler is God of the whole community IMO.

I started getting doubts about RSD when I read the comment of a guy stating he had become worst following it because he was building an alter ego rather than really improving himself and being more comfortable with himself.
He had ended up overt-hinking and over-analyzing and trying to be someone they were not.

Several others replied to that and agreed and all of them agreed that RSD was bad and their cure had been to completely shut down to RSD, the PUA community and following some months of "freezing out" to get back to normal.

Getting a better person should be the goal, becoming someone else is bad for yourself.


Another interesting article about this:
http://postmasculine.com/how-inner-game ... -you-worse

Well since they are technically competing business entities they are going to talk shit on eachother when they get a chance. Check tyler out dude.

Check www.rsdnation.com, www.youtube.com/rsdfreetour, youtube.com/rsdtyler for yourself and you tell us. I never met him but, I have found on going value every week for as long as I can recall ever since I started at rsdnation. I saw Jeffy free tour last year. 8months after I noticed a huge change in my game. Its been over a year now and I am seeing Alex free tour early May (www.rsdfreetour.com for dates. I am trying to save for hot seat (www.alexanderhotseat.com). I am doing a review you can checkout.

RSD is great, I personally have a very similar style as Julien but Tyler is great also, these guys more or less just teach you how to live life with always feeling you are enough, you are perfect just how you are, try new things, push yourself, step out of your comfort zone. Be a fucking man! I would suggest any new PUA to watch a lot of their videos numerous times and I'm sure you can always take something out of it.

I think he is promiscuous, and that he thinks promiscuity is a requirement for becoming a "master". Going out every night, having pickup as a lifestyle... It is extreme, and I think it is weird. Why chasing around every night for a new woman to sleep with? Is he desperate? Is he restless? He will probably not admit it, but I think he does it for boosting his ego, being addicted to the validation he gets. Being "process oriented" (his words) and "alpha" is easy when you get validated constantly, while being needy and seeking validation (which everyone does, even Tyler by going out every night) is "pathetic" if you ask him.

His "five secrets" on how to be able to talk forever were all about being confident enough to speak. As if that would be the problem.

What he says is generally good stuff though. But they (the guys at RSD) have a very narrow view on pickup. If you have read the book The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene you know what I mean.

I think certain styles of pick-up suit different people; for me, what Tyler (RSD) says resonates with me. In how I want to come across to people in general and of course with women.

I personally believe strongly in inner game and so I recently watched the Blueprint. I went out last Tuesday which was the first time going out since watching the Blueprint and assimilating the new information and I got a SNL. I then went out on Thursday and got another SNL. Considering this had not been common at all before learning about Tyler I do entirely put it down to the new confident, centered 'me'! I wasn't in my head thinking about what to talk about or what to do next with the girl I was just having fun - which was a nice feeling!

Like I said though It might be that for some people the style will just click and for others a different style might be best. However I'd recommend it til the cows come home as developing oneself is always useful outside of the pick-up world.

no. his taking his chance to do something much more greater than him. we all know
how shallow life could be without desired woman. his being father to all chodes.

my goal in life is also like Owen Cooks. i wanna help those poor chodes. i wanna make change.

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I mean, The thing about RSD is you kinda have to drink the kool aid to be down.

there's a very cult-like attitude on there, where they shun non-believers and all have this die hard belief in RSD that's kinda weird.

but with that said, I think The instructors for RSD are great at what they do, sometimes great role models for dude's coming up when they go in about social conditioning, entrepreneurship, getting experience, working hard... but then other times they set horrible example's that are damaging to dude's trying their best to come up & make it seem like this huge daunting overwhelming adventure that they need RSD's help for when in reality its not that serious...

I think RSD is great, but now I kinda just admire it from a distance, being involved in it is a little too much for me..

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Judging someone now based on who they were 10 years ago (assuming Strauss was 100% right) is fucking stupid. Especially when they are into pickup which is a huge catalyst for personality evolution and growth.

I'm different to now to who I was 5 months ago, let alone several years ago when I first started this!