Do what the fuck you want.

I've discovered that it's a combination of how often I ejaculate, how I picture myself (i.e. disassociated = fucking lame as shit; associated = horny mastiff,) and my self-esteem in fucking general.

There's some tough statistics about the validity of this forum (i.e. 2.49% of active users get laid consistently vs. 14.29-16.93% with other, well-populated forums available.) Don't just take random advice from here, just because a guy says he thinks one thing or another.

In fact, the guy who writes for The Quest For 50 says that he actually feels better watching porn consistently--because he's programmed his mind to orgasm every single night.

And then there's Simple Pickup, who says that holding back helps tremendously.

Then there's me, who says that if you're still in development, you need to a regular, consistent regimen of getting your rocks off (preferably via orgasming without ejaculating.) If you haven't reached the point where you get laid, you'll starve your penis for satisfaction, and it'll fucking go dormant, which I've heard many guys talk about

On the other hand, if you actually get laid like a rock star, then I'm happy for you. At this point, fuck girls and stop fapping. Period.

That's my two dollars worth.

I SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TAKE THE NO FAP CHALLENGE FOR AS LONG AS I CAN HOLD OUT.

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That pretty much sums this up, like you said earlier abstinence for a prolonged period of time is bad for you that's why I recommended fapping once every 7 days. I see a lot of idiots on bodybuilding.com who think they have built up some sort of PUA killstreak package by not fapping for 6 months and that being said I was stupid enough myself to try for 2 months before researching more into it and realising it was a bad move. Prostate cancer is the main risk and low libido/erectile dysfunction is also a concern but ideally if your getting sex at least once a week I would agree that you don't need to fap at all.

Looking even deeper into things here are some quotations from wikipedia on sexual abstinince;

Possible psychological effects;

"There have been numerous studies indicating that excessive repression of the sexual instinct leads to an increase in the overall level of aggression in a given society. Societies forbidding premarital sex are plagued by acts of rage and tend to have higher rates of crime and violence.[4] There may be a link between sexual repression and aggression, insensitivity, criminal behaviour, and a greater likelihood of killing and torturing enemies"


Possible physical effects;

Queens University in Belfast tracked the mortality of about 1,000 middle-aged men over the course of a decade. The study, published in 1997 in the British Medical Journal found that "men who reported the highest frequency of orgasm enjoyed a death rate half that of the laggards". The report also cited other studies to show that having sex even a few times a week may be associated with the following: improved sense of smell; reduced risk of heart disease; weight loss and overall fitness; reduced depression; the relief or lessening of pain; less frequent colds and flu; better bladder control; and better teeth. The report cited a study published by the British Journal of Urology International which indicated that men in their 20s can reduce by a third their chance of getting prostate cancer by ejaculating more than five times a week.[3]

Real or not I'm trying this out starting tomorrow. Nothing to lose.

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Day 10 here. All it's done is make me go out with the intent to sarge more, but I'm still not actually approaching women. Very frustrating since I can't even relieve myself and I'm failing to even get a woman to do it for me simultaneously. I know no orgasm is part of the challenge but I think it's definitely okay if you're orgasming with a woman... the way it's supposed to be.

Obviously it's okay to orgasm with a women.

Anyway. Day 8 here.

I'm definitely seeing a huge boost in all-round efficiency.I'm more confident and my voice is stronger.

Went to the club 2 days ago. I was all over that place. KC'ed about 5 chicks and even pulled one home. Threw her on the bed & went to the bathroom. Came back 2 mins later she was sleeping like a motherfucker. Semi passed out drunk.

But hey , small success is still a success.

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I randomly stopped beating when i felt a burning sensation whil trying to pee through my boner. I was like "yep, no porn". Currently on day 7 and ive decided to start fap once and start over.

I can honestly say this stuff works. Right now (pre fap) its 4:30 am and i feel like i want to go fuck that weird looking girl at work. I can barely sleep because of all this energy i have (which is the main reason im fapping, i need to sleep damnit lol)

also, up until day 6 i felt like SHIT. Even though i went out to sarge ive never felt so un pua like. But now on day 7 i feel like i can go out and make ladies crave the d, if only because i myself dont care who i give my raging sex to, so i will make girls fight for it! Then i will fuck both of their brains out!(the no fap path of thinking haha)

personally im not at a point in my life where f closing is possible unless i get to the girls house(only 18, dont have my own place) but i feel like the no fap badge is a deadly weapon to have in a guys arsenal, to the point where i would consider not fapping a week prior to some big party. If only to mentally replicate the effects subconciously

EDIT: I also wanted to mention on the 7th day i felt motivated in life and was also thinking devising the quickest ways to fuck the hot girls i know.

i think fapping is just bad man..
i notice if i fap i have a lower libido, i feel like my sexual performance decreases, i feel like you do lose attractiveness this could be mental because your "sex vibe" is decreased or its maybe pheromonal.
i also feel that if i let the sexual tension just build up inside me girls will feel that desire i have for them due to the tension which turns them on and also leads to better sex in my opinion

these are just some of my personal observations.

Starting from today i am going to stop masturbating, for how long? Well time will tell. It is hard to understand why i didnt look at this at a time in my life when im reassessing who i am and where i am going. I have also started training (18 months ago) I want a huge transformation in my self and my life by the end of this year.

Good luck brothers

Fuck it, I'm going to try a week. For the record, I don't think flapping is bad as long as you're not doing it multiple times day, but I figure I might as well give this a shot out of pure curiosity.

I haven't read this thread, but I saw a video today (after fapping to some porn, sadly) which caused me to quit porn. The reasons are simple but compelling:
1. It's addictive, but not actually enjoyable.
2. I suspect it has a negative influence on my sex life.
3. The time I waste watching porn can be spent on working toward my life goals.

Complete recovery apparently takes 4-5 months, but I am not a really severe case so I hope it will be faster. Kudos to everyone who led the way. And to all those who struggle: if you must fap, do it without the porn.

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I'm currently on day 2 and i'm doing no fap till i get laid ... the intention is to make it so i don't have to wait to long

A little while ago living in a city where sexual activity is allot higher than other places i set up no fap routines relative to how high or low my sex drive was. That worked out well and i was out allot like every day.
Now however i'm in a town thats quite clicky and allot more alpha qualities surface in social behaviour.I'm also out less but when i do go out i kind get the vibe that sexual behaviour is less open minded & abundant here but hey someones gotta do it. So i'm just motivating myself with no fap to become more active.

To sum up yes i believe it works but it's really what you can make of it and what you got to work with

Happy hunting

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This will make so much sense it's ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

Watch it.

It's the great porn experiment.

Day 5, going out tonight so will report back. So far I have felt more focused and confident, very interesting experiment, looking forward to seeing how it goes tonight.