I was thinking about my sticking point being escalating and closing for which I started a thread about in the SP thread. And I started to think about a specific issue I've been having trying to narrow down where I'm going wrong.

I met a girl at the gym, who I trained a couple of times. Then I started to train with her, the distinction being that I was training and she would come and train with me as oppose to it being strictly professional. This happens quite regularly now. She messages me when she plans to go and asks if I am around to go too. Generally we have a great time, considering we're in a gym and working out. We laugh and joke, talk seriously.. the works. I kino all the time, arms, hands, waist. Everywhere but the delicate zones! She is even comfortable to touch back.

Now back to the original question. My first thought is that her natural character allows her to be this way and she has no interest in me in that sense. Or, I think I may quite possibly have disqualified myself so much that she thinks I couldn't possibly be interested in her! Is that possible? And if so, whats the next step?

I don't see that as a bad thing and neither should you. To test your suspicion, ask her to hang out with you outside of the gym and see what she has to say and if she says yes, see how the things play out.

I did that already. She has on occasion mentioned a place that she goes to with her friends. So I brought it up in conversation at a later point, saying that I had never been... and we should go 'me and her'. I did it in a way, where it wasn't a question, but just a statement. She agreed straight away, and then began to plan out when we could go. The day she came up with was 10 days away at the time, as she was busy in between.

About 4 days after this, she cancelled (with a legitimate reason). So now I'm not quite sure about how I get to see her in a different place without just outright asking her out on a date.

What's wrong with asking her out on a date? It doesn't have to be anything formal or obligatory.

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Ok, I've been working under the assumption that I need to change the location without being completely forthright about how I feel about her. If I just asked her out, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of 'game'?

Wouldn't that be like just going up to her and saying 'I like you' blah blah lets go out.

This one girl is a bit of a logistical problem, so I did consider doing that. Telling her I liked her, and if it isnt to be, then I'll just move on.

No, man. You don't have to tell her you like her. Just ask out for coffee or something. It can be totally casual. The whole idea behind these things is to convey value and to make moves. Why wait for an opportunity to arise when you can make it happen yourself?

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