I've tried many different openers, and most get 1 or 2 responses per 20 I send out. (I use either datehookup, okcupid, or pof.)

I keep the same profile pic for all openers and I choose the girls always by the same variables. 1) I find them to be a 7 or higher, and 2) they don't mention anything in their profile that automatically disqualifies me (e.g. I don't date white guys).

This opener has gotten me more responses than any other, 6 out of 20:

I know I don't stand a chance at all with you, but just wanted to say you are so damn fine!



Why would this get a better response than other openers even though I automatically disqualify myself from her?

Getting a response to a message like that isn't a win in a context of online gaming though. Ultimately, all that matters is how many dates/close you go on. Plenty of girls will be glad to have a message buddy, and that's all you'll ever be if you put yourself in the frame of the needy/beta guy.

I got told my buddy to act like a bitch to get results. He tells them how pretty they are. DHV in my opening email fails. What I am coming to realize is that, many of these profiles are fake. I reccognize over a dozen girls. 1 is a huge slut who never worked a job in her life, does lots of drugs, and lives off welfare. Another posted pics of herself when she was 30lbs less in second year of high school. My circumstances in life changed for the worst and my game followed that pecking order. I'll try this approach. Maybe I'll add a pic too lol

I am pretty turned off by online dating but, I think I just need more work.

One of the biggest concern women have about online dating is their safety. With that in mind, in your case, being DLV might work because they don't see you as a threat, they know you won't make a bold move or too unpredictable, they know they will be in control of the whole interaction and lastly you don't have the gut to do anything. It's like petting a dwarf bunny vs playing around with a poisonous snake, of course they will choose the bunnies since they don't bite.

The second thing is pity and validation. You're playing their emotions, appealing to their sympathetic and feminine side yet at the same time your act of putting their on a pedestal gives them the validation and confidence boost. Hence, they will talk and keep you around.

Response rate is one thing, being able to land a date and f-close is another thing. Women invented friendzone for a reason. In the end, the ultimate question is whether that DLV routine will get you into her pants or not. Most likely no. But then again, you will never know unless you test it out yourself. You might attracted certain types of women.

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Very well said, I just got friend zoned by this girl for DLV to start the conversation.

I keep posting this over and over again.

I am surprised when I don't get a response.

I don't waste time messaging girls that would annoy me though, which cuts down on the amount of non responses I would get I guess, from girls that I don't match up with.

But tease her about her profile.

Seriously. I'm spamming this subforum with that lol.

"So you like guys to be all over you but yet you want to be independent..... *falls over in confusion"

Try that, but replace it with something psychology wise from her profile, or it could be anything really