hey everybody im new to the forum actually is my first post. I dont know what makes u an expert in the game of pickup. I honestly havent read any of the mystery methods or any of the other books due to my severe case of ADD but i consider myself an excellent and superb opener and closer when it comes to relationships of all sorts and magnitudes. I could open anybody anytime anywhere. I dont mean to be cocky or anything but its a talent i have had since i was child. When i was a kid i used to be the snot nose kid who used to say hi to everybody and annoy the shit out people lol but if i could help anybody out in the forum in terms of best ways to open just let me know. My main beleif in terms of opening a conversation which from reading the posts seems to be difficulty is I preach the teminology of consciousness. Before you start talking to anybody before anything you have to be conscious of the situation around you. You dont want to open anybody who is on the phone or someone who you will have a hard time getting their attention that is just a waste of time and hurts confidence as stated before probably everywhere you have read eye contact positive or negative is important you have to let the person know you are around you dont want to scare anybody. Most woman dont like to be snuck up from behind. lol. Conversation starters are simple. Is it hot a day and she is wearing a hoodie ask why u are wearing on this hot ass day and smile? shit like that its all about body language and tone the shit coming out of your mouth im ost instances doesnt really matter during initial opening stages. . Gaining trust or value as stated just about everywhere i read is also very important. value is important but by far the most important intrinsic value in my opinion is uniqueness most above average to hot woman get hit on 9-12 times every week or more even if you are an ugly dude you have a shot no matter what if you are unique be different. Different is good. People have expectations of you asking them the same dumb ass questions deviate from that shit be unique . Everybody is some what unique in the way they handle stuff just do something unique so she will remember you that is the biggest value ever wheather it be you are the guy who told her it was ok to use the boys room cause the girls room was locked. Just something to build positive memory. I guess its worked time and time again for me but thats just my opinion in a nut shell. Everybodys feedback would be great just trying to contribute to the forum thanks all have a good nite.

Welcome to the forum!

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Welcome stevo212.

It seems like you got the idea already

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