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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:10 pm 
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Though I've been getting by with setting up dates and stuff, I've recently been losing my drive to open girls in the field. Even whilst I open people, it doesn't get me instate, I don't feel a drive to push myself like I did when I started out in PUA.

A very experienced friend of mine told me that apparently this was me becoming non-needy; I know I can approach and escalate and do something with it and have done so many times before, so it becomes nothing much to me.

He told me about the use of setting goals to push and force yourself out of your comfort zone. I thought I'd give this a go, so I've come up with a few goals thus far:


- Open 8 sets a night minimum, or until you find a girl you believe you can pull.
- Direct approach (something I've been slipping out of recently...)
- If one extraction attempt doesn't work out, get back in the game and carry on! (something that happens to me a lot)
- If possible, isolate and extract ASAP.


Do any of you guys have experience in goal setting? Would appreciate your feedback!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:22 pm 
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Hi ninja,
Recently I've been experiencing the same thing. I keep telling myself to open a certain amount of set per day but I just can't walk the walk when the time comes. I really need to take a day and just talk to people.
I have also experienced the feeling of non-neediness. My thinking is: if I don't HAVE to talk to random people and I am not spoken TO, then why open?
Let me know how it goes!

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This happens. Its a good thing. Not that it should continue but the fact is that your not driven by fear to talk to strangers. Its now seems like work instead of an unimaginable task to talk to some one. You don't think any more on what they care about or what they think its all now about you and your abilities to move and check.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:14 am 
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I'm having the same problem. Might just be winter setting in for me though. Starting to think that the seasons have a strong effect on me. In the summer I was talking to everyone, and as fall came I slowed down, and now I've all but shut down. Still trying to look for the girl that is just too pretty to walk past though. Keep your head up, alone time isn't always bad. Helps you work on yourself more


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:36 pm 
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I think if I start to miss PUA trough not doing it, I can get this drive back. I'm taking a temporary break from night game (for about a month).

In the meantime I have a date set up for the Christmas hols back at home (I'm at uni SPAM), and probs going out casually over the winter as well. Could try with any oppurtunities that come my way, like the way naturals game :P

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:15 am 
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So I've taken a break now, and the problem is still there! Doesn't help now that I have a casual relationship with a girl; although I enjoy our time together, I feel like using her as the 'easy way out' of getting laid. Instead she should just be something 'on the side' whilst I continue to develop myself.

I always see sets I could have easily opened before, I've figured that I should just push through and do it. After all, I'm not driven by fear anymore... :D

If anyone else has had the same problem and found solutions, please share them!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:04 pm 
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I wouldn't call it a "problem" to be honest.

In my point of view as long as you're not afraid and don't have a particular goal to reach, you should only do it when you feel like it.
Going out shouldnt be seen like a job, it's supposed to be fun and relaxing, otherwise you might as well as stay longer at work and get a promotion :D


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Though I've been getting by with setting up dates and stuff, I've recently been losing my drive to open girls in the field. Even whilst I open people, it doesn't get me instate, I don't feel a drive to push myself like I did when I started out in PUA.

A very experienced friend of mine told me that apparently this was me becoming non-needy; I know I can approach and escalate and do something with it and have done so many times before, so it becomes nothing much to me.

He told me about the use of setting goals to push and force yourself out of your comfort zone. I thought I'd give this a go, so I've come up with a few goals thus far:


- Open 8 sets a night minimum, or until you find a girl you believe you can pull.
- Direct approach (something I've been slipping out of recently...)
- If one extraction attempt doesn't work out, get back in the game and carry on! (something that happens to me a lot)
- If possible, isolate and extract ASAP.


Do any of you guys have experience in goal setting? Would appreciate your feedback!

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I don't your goal of trying to open 8 sets a night. Here's a better more effective goal.

Go out with the intention of getting 2 phone numbers tonight and you cannot leave and go back home until you do.

Go out with the intention of inviting to women back home with you and you cannot go back home until you do.

Focus on having action oriented goals and you will essentially FORCE yourself to take action and open more women.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:14 am 
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A friend raised something with me last night, he thinks that taking game too seriously might have something to do with it. Suddenly it like everything takes much more effort because I'm not enjoying it. I guess I should start there; just focusing on having fun with no pressure.
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you should only do it when you feel like it.
I think it could still be possible to find the fun in opening consistently like I used to. Just gotta find it again :) any ideas here?
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the fact is that your not driven by fear to talk to strangers.
Reading this statement made me realise that was indeed true. When I started out in PUA, it was a thrilling, exciting kind of fear to talk to strangers. I need to find a new motivation to approach then. I'm gonna do some soul-searching later on today and will update you shortly :)

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I'm exactly with you. I'm not that motivated anymore and it's been like this for almost half a year now. I attribute it to the fact that my life is busy and exciting and I now live in a tropical country and do all sorts of things throughout the week.

When I was in Canada I'd be bored all day so I'd honestly just talk to girls between classes and breaks to keep my mind occupied. I'm also at the point now that I honestly don't care about hooking up or meeting girls when I go out, I just want to have fun and if the opportunity arises where a HB9 or 10 is present I may consider talking to her.

I feel like I'm also at the top of my game. I never really read material and developed my own game. I've been highly successful and accomplished what I set out to do. I think the next step for me is just to settle down and share my strong character with a girl who will appreciate it.


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Ninja I think we all been there before. Especially when your coming out of a relationship and trying to get back into the game you feel neutered. I don't want this to look like advertising but the whole reason for my iphone app was exactly that. To motivate yourself and keep track of your accomplishments. If you have an iphone check it out my man. Hopefully it works...its essentially a black book but its designed to motivate people. Maybe it will help you want to take opening and closing more seriosuly. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:38 pm 
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Wtf that's awesome! Personally I don't have that many girls that I actually fuck though (only fucked 3 girls!), so it's a little inappropriate for me... I'm thinking that emphasising things like energy and persistence in my approach (that I currently lack) might help me. Even if I have to fake a high energy approach !

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I feel like im in the same position you are. I know i can approach and open. I dont have to much of a fear of rejection, but i just dont feel like it much anymore. Im gonna try this goal setting thing sounds legit.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:38 pm 
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I beat my lack of drive last night and set mysel ablaze once more! Here's the report from my account on the Manchester Lair (England)
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15/02/13 - Season 2, Episode 6: Rewired

I've been doing a little reading. In particular, I've been reading this chapter from Anthony Robbin's "Awaken the Giant Within". There's this one chapter that states that everything we do is either to gain positive emotions or to avoid negative emotions. And mentions that is possible to rewire your thought processes through this knowledge!

Needless to say I thought I'd give this a shot. I wrote down the behaviours relevant to sarging, my current thought process of them, and the desired thought process and action to make it better. There's a table full of these behaviours at my flat! lol

I discovered that my thoughts surrounding opening were not that great, but my thoughts about escalation were 'fun, arousing, exciting'. With this in mind, I thought I'd give this theory a shot; not sarging to open girls and get approachs out of the way, but sarging to create tension, emotion and arousal for both parties through escalation.

I was actually out later that night as I was meant to be meeting a girl (my Russian wing's leftovers!!!) later that evening. I got there early, sporting the Bruno Mars hat-and-scarf, and the girl is late (again! She was late yesterday for our Valentine's meetup...). So I decide to creep, no hesitation, no holding back!

I actually enjoy myself and behave enthusiastically for the first time in a while! It's also worth noting that I had no-one to latch to and didn't talk about game with any of my wings (I was them only one there).

I behaved in a very open, extroverted and social manner. ALL BY MYSELF! Using my pent-up confidence and relaxation with these situations that I have developed to much better use! All my sets went relatively well, it was like my eyes have opened again!

Needless to say I achieved a LOT of social proof, people all around starting in my direction like I'd just killed someone in plain sight.

I met a very cute rocker girl later on in the night, she opened me asking for a lighter. She actually recognised as the guy dressed as Cupid, she was impressed! So I struck hard but discretely like a ninja! Building up tension, emotion and arousal just as I used to, it wasn't hard to get the makeout and get her very interested in me.

But then a guy came outside. The girl hid behind me, saying 'That guy has been stalking me for 5 hours today trying to get me out'. I think it's hilarious how girl's opinions of other potential suitors seems to change on a whim around men they are attracted to

He came up to us asked her who I was and how I knew her. I didn't even bother hiding it, we said we were 'fag buddies' (she was smoking). The guy then said, 'I'm with her'. It became apparent that he was her 'date'. He then tried to kiss her quite directly, and failed miserably! I like how I stole his Valentine, LOL! I quickly got her name recorded in my phone (as she had legitimately broke her phone)

I then meet up with the girl I'm meant to be meeting, and get bored and go home! Was still a very good night! I now know what drives me; it's escalation, motion > emotion, sexcual tension and arousal that I longed for!

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Ninja
You have to find something in sarging that genuinely gives you that kick. For me, it's causing escalation; those moments that get your heart beating. You go into sets not to open, but to create emotion and fun!

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