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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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I come across as BF material. Should I just give early disclosure info that "I just wanna be friends with benefits" during comfort C2 conversation?
yes, do it already, give her your intentions early on!  33%  [ 5 ]
no, have sex first, then talk about the kinda relationship you want with them  40%  [ 6 ]
don't say anything about your intentions till they ask  27%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:33 am 
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Guys, I just got outa 5+ yr relationship; i've only had one gf my whole afc life. I don't want another one, but my actions somehow keep showing girls I'm bf material.

It's gonna take me a while to get rid of these bad habits that have been dog trained into my AFC subconscious.

Some girls are getting bored in comfort with me. what do I do?

and lastly, has anyone tried during comfort phase to just tell them flat out, "hey I wana be honest with you, I'm not looking for a LTR. I just wanna get freaky with you behind closed doors."

Please let me know, I have the balls to tell a girl this, but don't know if I should. If one of you say yes, do it, I'm going to all of them. :shock:

some have stopped texting/talking to me...i'm just gonna outa the blue text them, "hey let's be friends that F, stop playing hard to get with me i'm not looking for chains and shackles!"

Any other points for helping me out would be so appreciated. PLease note: It took me 6 months!!! to hold my one itis' hand, and another month to ask her to "be my gf." sigh*

In between the intermittent breakups I've just been a dumb afc and getting buyers remorse by laying Fools Mates (attraction then Seduction). Comfort is sooo new to me it's not even funny.


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well i dont know how other guys do this but i recomend this........jus invite her to come do something with you.....get drunk etc whatever you want....to the point of where u can move in on her for the finish....and jus keep it that way.......jus call her up whenever u wanna hangout and fuck....and hopefully she will get the point if not and she questions you jus be like "im jus lookin to have fun right now" let her know shes cool and not a peace of meat but also jus let her know u dont want a relationship like that


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well i dont know how other guys do this but i recomend this........jus invite her to come do something with you.....get drunk etc whatever you want....to the point of where u can move in on her for the finish....and jus keep it that way.......jus call her up whenever u wanna hangout and fuck....and hopefully she will get the point if not and she questions you jus be like "im jus lookin to have fun right now" let her know shes cool and not a peace of meat but also jus let her know u dont want a relationship like that
my problem lies in that I'm totally acting like i'm desperate cuz i'm so used to treating my ex "nice."

I want to knw if i sould just disqualify myself as a BF material at the beginning so when i do act like an idiota, girls won't think "omg this guy is so falling in love with me."

whwat can i do to cushion my f up.


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I'm in a similar situation as you. Had 1 gf for 5.5 years, she left me 6 months ago. I've got a couple fb's now, but they always want to get more serious. One thing that helps me, I have a playboy bunny sticker on my abs when I tan, so they see it and know it isn't gonna be easy to lock me down.

Another thing you should do is be very flirty with other girls when you are hanging out with a fb. Flirt with her friends right in front of her. Make yourself not always available to hang out.


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I'm in a similar situation as you. Had 1 gf for 5.5 years, she left me 6 months ago. I've got a couple fb's now, but they always want to get more serious. One thing that helps me, I have a playboy bunny sticker on my abs when I tan, so they see it and know it isn't gonna be easy to lock me down.

Another thing you should do is be very flirty with other girls when you are hanging out with a fb. Flirt with her friends right in front of her. Make yourself not always available to hang out.
good tip thanks.


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build attraction with a girl over a short amount of time. dont bother finding out much about her. never ask her about her past, but assume you have the authority to do what you please. dont be afraid to kino whenever you want, but be casual about it. Its basicly the same process as achieving a gf, but you cant let her see that there is a romantic side to you. after the first time you hook up, dont allow yourself to hang out with her alone outside of sex, otherwise you give the otherside of you a chance to come out. when still attracting, be ultra-alpha.
and dont talk about your objectives. dont let her get emotionally attached to you, only physically. when you do hang out with her in the attraction stage, dont be together for long. you dont want her to really get to know you, she just has to be attracted to you. once you have her number, you invite her over to your place to watch a movie or somethin. you should be able to close with her there, and like i said, after that, never hang out alone except for that.

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When she is attracted to you tell her you fresh out of a deep realtionship and you want to be open with the women in your life... its still good to be nice to her, just be honest the whole time.. TO tel her you want to be with other girls you have to be leave that it is OKAY to be wiht other girls, you have to believe it yourself you cant seek her approval.. you also cant not let her control the sexuall aspect of the relationship, she cant think that you are getting sex from her.. she doesnt want a FB who gets sex form her, she wants a FB that gives her sex.. be a man.. make sure you can please her or she wont stay around.. dont be around to often, and make your visit always sexual in nature.. make her horny play hard to get, reward her for being a bad girl.

You should also tell her the things you like about her. For example you want a FB... you need to make a list of traits a FB has.. she is open, not the jealous type, free spirt, fun, adventrous, into new things... so are just examples make a long list for your self.. early into the interaction with her drop these words.. when she is telling a story about something risky she was doing tell her you love risky girls, reward her for this behaviour tell her you approve, tell her those are the trait you like in her. This is a labellign theory like they use in policing, if you label some one a deviant or a criminal they will therefore become and be a criminal. Tell her i love that you never get jealous, and she will try and keep that impression in your head!!


those are just some points of the top of my head.. so just be honest, believe your self, and label her

Blany


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Good post, Blany. Point out the characteristics of a FB in her - good stuff!

Be honest about it, man. Tell her that you're not looking for anything serious, you got out of a relationship so you want to take things slow before you actually committ. I'd run Style's 'Love is a free-flowing energy' routine.

A very good piece of advice I got from a PUA I really respect is 'nothing's ever a big deal'. If you go for Mystery's k-close (would you like to kiss me), treat it casually. You're kissing, that's C2 already. Then just get her to your seduction location and just let things go naturally. Don't make a big deal out of sex. If she does go into relationship talk - Style's 'love is a free flowing energy' is GOLD in my experience.

Just out of curiosity - where do you pick up those girls? Generally women in bars and clubs are more open to sexual experimentation than girls you pick up after church on Sunday. If you want fuck buddies, hang out where women have the right mindset for it.

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 Post subject: from BF to F-Buddy
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Just observing what you wrote, it seems as though you have a sweet/nice edge when youre gaming most likely due to having a longtime girlfriend. No worries. Here's something fun to try out.

Sometimes women go out and have it already in their heads that they're going to be "biches" all night because they're pissed at some guy who never called them back. So, you should do the same thing. One night sarging, try being a "dick" to all the girls you meet. i.e. Negging a little more, keeping her in Attraction longer than usual, etc. I can make a girl pretty frustrated by keeping her in F2M Attraction by acting aloof and even leave her by saying "I can't even talk to you now" as she replies with "Fine then" and she watches me walk away from her directly into my next set of HB8.5s. She will eye you all night and when you finally Qualify her she will want your body buddy;-)

However, I always think that you should leave a girl better than you found her so if you're talking about just "pimpin" a chick for sex by stringing her along making her think you might be her bf eventually, that's just not cool.

The reasoning behind this practice drill I gave you is that when executed, the girls will already have in the back of their mind that you really are too good for them and so its easier to get away with not having to commit to a relationship because they think you can do better too. I can explain it more if you pm me;-)

Keep kickn ass brother,

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