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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:04 pm 
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Field tested, pua approved! I just used it last night on a date. Worked PERFECTLY! We were at dinner and had just ordered our food. I started into it and despite not having rehearsed it, I got through it very smoothly. She's a conservative religious girl and as expected her forest was tidy, her house was plain, her lake was placid, and her wall was mundane. That fit her personality concisely. She really liked it when I told her what her bear meant too. She said she was afraid of it and had to hide, and I told her that meant she was afraid of her problems and hides from them. She really lit up and got excited when I said that. Then as soon as I finished my last word of the summary, our food came. But keep in mind that I had this all planned out and intentionally did the Freud test when I thought the timing was best.

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Field tested, pua approved! I just used it last night on a date. Worked PERFECTLY! We were at dinner and had just ordered our food. I started into it and despite not having rehearsed it, I got through it very smoothly. She's a conservative religious girl and as expected her forest was tidy, her house was plain, her lake was placid, and her wall was mundane. That fit her personality concisely. She really liked it when I told her what her bear meant too. She said she was afraid of it and had to hide, and I told her that meant she was afraid of her problems and hides from them. She really lit up and got excited when I said that. Then as soon as I finished my last word of the summary, our food came. But keep in mind that I had this all planned out and intentionally did the Freud test when I thought the timing was best.
Highlight of my day (or at least the online part of it) are reading your posts.

Do tell me, how did she answer and how did you analyse.


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Field tested, pua approved! I just used it last night on a date. Worked PERFECTLY! We were at dinner and had just ordered our food. I started into it and despite not having rehearsed it, I got through it very smoothly. She's a conservative religious girl and as expected her forest was tidy, her house was plain, her lake was placid, and her wall was mundane. That fit her personality concisely. She really liked it when I told her what her bear meant too. She said she was afraid of it and had to hide, and I told her that meant she was afraid of her problems and hides from them. She really lit up and got excited when I said that. Then as soon as I finished my last word of the summary, our food came. But keep in mind that I had this all planned out and intentionally did the Freud test when I thought the timing was best.
Highlight of my day (or at least the online part of it) are reading your posts.

Do tell me, how did she answer and how did you analyse.
Thanks!

She was like "The forrest has tall trees and moss and little flowers around." I fucked up and told her to describe the cabin instead of saying house, so she pictured a cabin and described that. She said it was made of logs and had a porch and was very simple looking. Then she said the bear was brown and didn't really describe it, but put much more emphasis on saying how bears can smell people so she wanted to hide from it so it didn't eat her. (In her country they have wild man-eating lions so she is very afraid of large animals). Then she said the lake was clear blue water and vast across the horizon, with little pebbles on the floor, lolz. She started to describe the wall as a dam, but I had to kind of coach her through it and let her know is was not a dam but a wall beyond the lake. That was a hard one to get her to conceptualize so she just said it was a little taller than her, brown and grey, and very plain looking.

I essentially told her what I mentioned previously, which is that she is a conservative girl and her current life, self esteem, views on sexuality, are also very conservative. The bear thing and hiding from her problems she really was impressed by. The wall was a little trickier, but I said that since she believes in heaven, her wall was not an imposing or menacing obstacle, probably because she believes that death is not a scary or final thing. She knows there is something much better beyond that wall which is why it was merely an ordinary looking obstacle.

One other thing I did was tell her that if she saw me in the woods, in her cabin, on her lake, or defending her against the bear, then that means she sees me in her life or wants to have sex with me. She obviously didn't say that, but I liked mentioning that simply because it was kind of a subtle NLP thing because I was telling her the words "you want me in your life and want to have sex with me" eventhough the context was actually indicating the opposite of that.

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I tried this via email. Just to get a feel for the analysis. I got a very detailed answer...

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I see a forest it is a Pine Tree forest with old and vary large trees, the trees are so thick in some places it is impassable however there is a little winding path.

I see a bear on the path just ahead, I freeze for a moment and watch it. It’s a huge black bear who is rummaging in the foliage, he looks like he is playing with something. I decide to cut around the trees away from its path so that it doesn’t catch my scent.

As I walk through the trees I come across a house, it’s a little cottage, it looks a little dilapidated and in need of some care, there are vines growing up over some of the windows and the garden needs a bit of TLC. As I walk closer I notice a birds nest in the chimney and the gate was once green but is now swinging off its hinges.

I hear water running near by so I go to investigate, I see a little brook running down the back of the house coming out of a spring in the rocks. I walk along the brook and it joins to a river, as I walk down the river I see a tall wall running along what seems to be a boundary. I skip across some rocks in the river to investigate the big stone wall… as I walk around the wall I push a stone and the wall moves to create a doorway.. I walk through the door into the most beautiful garden, so beautiful its almost magical, as I walk through the most perfect rose garden listening to the birds in the trees I see a woman in the clearing. At first I think she is a statue and then I realise she is dressed in robes and glows giving me a welcoming smile, she opens her arms drawing me closer to her……
So here is how I break it down to her...

You can see the plan you want for your life, but there seems to be obstacles constantly blocking the way. You’re the type of person who hates confrontation and will try to avoid it if possible. I feel that you feel neglected and unloved. You yearn for somebody to love you and your self esteem suffers somewhat because of it. Once, you knew this feeling but that was a long time ago. Your views on sex are very relaxed. When you have it, you like to have it regularly. Death used to be an issue or you, but you have since come to terms with it and believe that there is more after you die. You believe life doesn’t stop at death.

Also… if you saw me in the woods, in your cabin, on your river, or fighting against the bear; then that means you see me in your life or – more likely - want to have sex with me. (Because good artists copy, great artists steal)


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 Post subject: Re: The Freud Test
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:59 pm 
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The full email thread reads:

Let's play a game, and answer honestly...

There's a forest describe it?
You see a bear, what do you do?
There's a house describe it?
Now there's a body of water, describe it?
Now on the other side of the water there's a wall, what kind is it?
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Really….? LOL
Or don’t bother.

Never mind then. Have a nice day.
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I see a forest it is a Pine Tree forest with old and vary large trees, the trees are so thick in some places it is impassable however there is a little winding path.

I see a bear on the path just ahead, I freeze for a moment and watch it. It’s a huge black bear who is rummaging in the foliage, he looks like he is playing with something. I decide to cut around the trees away from its path so that it doesn’t catch my scent.

As I walk through the trees I come across a house, it’s a little cottage, it looks a little dilapidated and in need of some care, there are vines growing up over some of the windows and the garden needs a bit of TLC. As I walk closer I notice a birds nest in the chimney and the gate was once green but is now swinging off its hinges.

I hear water running near by so I go to investigate, I see a little brook running down the back of the house coming out of a spring in the rocks. I walk along the brook and it joins to a river, as I walk down the river I see a tall wall running along what seems to be a boundary. I skip across some rocks in the river to investigate the big stone wall… as I walk around the wall I push a stone and the wall moves to create a doorway.. I walk through the door into the most beautiful garden, so beautiful its almost magical, as I walk through the most perfect rose garden listening to the birds in the trees I see a woman in the clearing. At first I think she is a statue and then I realise she is dressed in robes and glows giving me a welcoming smile, she opens her arms drawing me closer to her……
You can see the plan you want for your life, but there seems to be obstacles constantly blocking the way. You’re the type of person who hates confrontation and will try to avoid it if possible. I feel that you feel neglected and unloved. You yearn for somebody to love you and your self esteem suffers somewhat because of it. Once, you knew this feeling but that was a long time ago. Your views on sex are very relaxed. When you have it, you like to have it regularly. Death used to be an issue or you, but you have since come to terms with it and believe that there is more after you die. You believe life doesn’t stop at death.

Also… if you saw me in the woods, in your cabin, on the river, or fighting against the bear; then that means you see me in your life or – more likely - want to have sex with me.
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Does that mean I want to have sex with women because there was a woman? Lol

Interesting read…. Where did you learn how to break that down?
I have been doing a lot of self improving recently. So my knowledge is beginning to spike.

I just enjoy psychology and the human mind. But you definitely offered a good insight into yours. Not sure I want to dig any deeper…
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Lol why not?
If I told you I would have to kill you.

Alternatively you can invite me over and I will tell you more.

Do you take that risk?
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It means you have the opportunity to kill me….

Pizza, couple of bottles and a film then?

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Yea, that's interesting. Mine asked what I said when someone did it to me. I told her I read about it and never did it, and that it wouldn't work now that I know the symbolism behind it.

I also knew this girl pretty well, so it wasn't exactly a cold read. I just wanted to see if her answers corresponded with what I already knew about her.

Another thing I'd suggest doing is guiding her answers in a meaningful direction. She may not fully understand the purpose of this test so she might try to give you colorful answers just for the sake of doing so. Maybe she's trying to show you how original and creative she can be, as she doesn't know the purpose of the test. Probe her a little more and get her to clarify her answers. Maybe even say things like "Is the bear big or small?" Get some useful tidbits that you can actually psychoanalyze, as opposed to worthless fluffy details that have no symbolic meaning behind them.

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Yea, that's interesting. Mine asked what I said when someone did it to me. I told her I read about it and never did it, and that it wouldn't work now that I know the symbolism behind it.

I also knew this girl pretty well, so it wasn't exactly a cold read. I just wanted to see if her answers corresponded with what I already knew about her.

Another thing I'd suggest doing is guiding her answers in a meaningful direction. She may not fully understand the purpose of this test so she might try to give you colorful answers just for the sake of doing so. Maybe she's trying to show you how original and creative she can be, as she doesn't know the purpose of the test. Probe her a little more and get her to clarify her answers. Maybe even say things like "Is the bear big or small?" Get some useful tidbits that you can actually psychoanalyze, as opposed to worthless fluffy details that have no symbolic meaning behind them.
I think if you just come to terms with the basic rules, the rest of the information will fall into place. But leading them is sound advice; only if it is needed.

Another girl asked me how I did in the test. Funnily enough, my response was near the same as yours (without stealing this time). I just said it isn't a fair test due to me knowing what each symbolises.

I thought my email trail went as well as could be. Had a bit of everything.


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Yep, it's solid game. Just like using the Cube. I highly recommend this as part of anyone's routine. It will make you seem interesting and intelligent and fills a good segment of time. Builds rapport and allows you to gain a better understanding of your target as you are gaming them.

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This is great. It's just a simplified cube routine.

You would bring it up the same way you do the cube. Tell her you want to give her a personality test. Or analyze her life. Or play a short game. Just use any of the terms women associate with "chick crack".

Though I'm curious as to how you interpret the responses. For instance, the body of water. What if she's like "It's a big lake with blue water and ducks swimming on it with a dock and a boat with some people water skiing." I mean, I could see you equating placid still water with virginity or being tame in bed. And maybe choppy waters with wild sex. But if they don't know ahead of time that the lake symbolizes sex, they'll just tell you some random things about lakes that probably don't mean shit.
Truly great..I wonder about duck swimming and it's delight..


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:38 am 
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Been running this test a lot lately. Works great. I tend to find that if yo play down their sexuality it tends to lower their inhabitions. They no longer feel the need to shield as you have already told them you don't think they are promiscuous.

One girl told me her water was a small pond, which was dirty. Sex wasn't a big deal to her, obviously and she is obviously very sexually active. In this case I just told it how it is.

But if a girl speaks about a flowing river, meaning a more active sexuality, I play it down somewhat.

I have heard some funny descriptions, though. Like WTF.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:28 pm 
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Also keep in mind that this is meant as a DHV routine, not a bona fide personality assessment. You may want to apply what you already know about her to your descriptions of what her answers mean. But do it in such a way that it helps you to validate and reinforce the things that you want to convey to her. That means being careful about how you interpret her sexuality.

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I really need to check this site more often, I'm missing all the posts. Reading through all these responses, there are a lot of suggestions that I hadn't even considered. The email bit was just awesome, how you handled that. Suggesting your presence in their imagination to suggest their need for you is great, and downplaying the sexuality is another great idea. I hope to be in a bar someone where and hear this routine ran. I would seriously rofl. Look forward to hearing more reports!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:25 pm 
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Love it. Just tested it on a girl that randomly contacted me (funny story anyway, depending on where this is going, you might hear the story in a LR ;) ), she gave it an accuracy score of 90%. She had some very interesting answers:

Her forest was quite dense, but had lots of lit spots.

I interpreted it as a not very optimistic outlook on life, but that is relativised by the lit spots, which represent the lucky moments in her life, which are not that rare after all. Also, I added that she described the forest from within, which made me think that she was very honest with her answers (I only revealed it at the end)

When she saw the bear, she backed up, still facing the bear.

I interpreted it as her usually facing the problems, but gaining some distance before tackling it in any way, or finding a workaround.

Her house was small, white, had a pile of wood next to it and on the windowsill, there were flowers.

I interpreted it as her not being extremely secure, or having a rather small ego. Then again, the flowers symbolised that she likes to be the center of attention every now and then, pretty much compensating for the size of her house. I had no idea what to do with the pile of wood though (In German, to have wood in front of the house (literal translation) means having (big) boobs. I dropped a comment on that).

Her river was narrow, not covered by bushes or anything and her water was clear, had some pebbles in it. It was next to the house.

I interpreted that as having an open dealing with sexuality, maybe even being open sexually. The narrowness signifies that she is not very experienced, or that she doesn't value it highly.

Now, the most shockingly precise part was her wall. It was made of stone, had grass and moss on it, and there were some fragments broken off.

I know that one of her friends has commited suicide (not recently though). I told her that she has had a lot of death experiences in her life, she has gained some (temporal?) distance to it though. She is pretty familiar with the topic, hence the precise description.

Let me know if you agree with my findings... she did ;)


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I would would say that is a solid interpretation. I always like to have a little error in my reply, even if I'm sure of what I want to say. This way any corrections she makes frees the conversation open to continue. If there was a 100 % successful assessment, the conversation thread would be over.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:47 pm 
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If there was a 100 % successful assessment, the conversation thread would be over.
I don't quite agree... I'm pretty good at associations, so I pretty much always find a way to continue. Plus, her 'creek' was not covered by 'bushes' whatsoever. I mean, come on... 8)


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