I was seeing this girl for 4 months now. We were at my place, fucked her. We went out later together, we met some people outside. She went clubbing with them, I went home. Picked her up after 2h. She cryed drunked. Told some bullshit story, about dancing with a guy(who we met before) whos ex showed up and made a scene and then everyone leaving her.
Went to my place, fucked her again. Couldn't sleep. Thinking about the true story. Found out there must have been more than a dance. I found out the dude gave her his necklace. She had no lipstick on, said she made out with her girlfriend. After she gave me a cheer up blowjob in the morning I told her what I think realy happened. I asked her, if there is a part of my story that is false. She gave no reply.

The problem is, I can understand she wants to meet other guys but why the fuck did she want to get me in a serious relationship, if she is not ready. Before we went out she asked me what do I think about a serious commitment. I never answered her question directly as I know what girls are like and I have difficulties in trusting them.

The problem is I have this image in my mind of me agreeing to a serious relationship before we went out. And it makes me sick thinking that she would have done the same thing and abuse my trust. And this is a girl that I actualy like. We havent spoken a word since I told her my opinion.

Just bang this chick and don't worry too much about "meh what if . . ." eventually you have to get up to school, or work (or maybe just to collect your welfare check) and you won't have your eye on this girl. This will be someone elses chance to leap in and bang her.

Just don't worry about it and enjoy her when you can. And you are wise not to trust girls.

just gave her what she want don't be too serious

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Seems like a head case, some kind of baggage and I would bail! fast! before you get too attached.

What I have found in life is that there are two types of women, women of value who come from good homes with self respect, confidence, value and loving families, and women who are damaged and have very little self love! this seems to be 90% of the women you will come across today lol Its very rare to find a high quality woman! which is why I recommend screening women before even thinking about dating them! the minute a girl says she has any kind of daddy issues, poor relationship with either parent, history of sexual abuse ect ect, im out! and considering 60% of people are divorced, one in three children are abused physically or sexually, and western society encouraged women to be total whores...the odds of finding a good women are rare lol

Go date many women! go have fun! and eventually you will come across a "high quality" woman. I have been single for 6 weeks, have dated a lot of women! and out of lets say 15 women I have only met one who I consider "relationship material" its a sad sad reality! a lot of the girls I meet are very cool! but they are complete sluts! have very little self respect...get sloppy drunk and tossed around like rag dolls...most of them I can get into bed within the first night.

I guess my point is don't ever get attached to a woman especially If you know she has issues, don't try to fix her, don't try to figure her out, have fun for a while and then move on....when you meet a girl from a solid family with good values, keep her around.

Girls coming from loving homes with conservative life values can fuck you up just as bad. Even this, i personally experienced, is no guarantee. and i dated girls from all over the world and with the strangest histories.

She is subconsciously testing your alpha qualities. It's just the first step in the betaization process (i.e. to see how easily you would submit to a committed relationship).

-Wolf

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When I was with this Über beautiful girl, I pretty much admitted to wanting a relationship with her and having feelings for her after a week or two, three. But she told me previously that she was Catholic and would never spend time with a guy unless she was serious about him, and we did tons of intimate stuff. Plus I actually had girls on the side that I was seeing so I had good reason to accentuate my commitment and avoid suspicion. Then two weeks later she became whimsical and anxious and went back and forth to being super intimate with me to hazy in distant. Then she decided she didn't want to continue the relationship because she had come to question her feelings for me. As a result I threw myself fully on the girl that I had on the side, but then again, I had also been building up the promise of a steady relationship with her.

In fact, the day that the girl dumped me, I had called the other chick to take a break from work to come pick me up from the station, go to my room, and make love. She had her period but I convinced her to do it anyway, and said: "Boys that use their girlfriend's excuse not to make love to their boyfriend just don't want it badly enough. They don't truly desire their girlfriends. They're not real men." I put a towel underneath her on the bed just like I always do with girls when they moan about period. It was awesome and she went back to work, and me too. Then later that night I met up with the other girl I mentioned above. She was like "blah blah, you are very passionate, i'm not passionate it is not my personality . . . Half a year ago, I would have thought all this commitment is a great thing, I would have loved taking these steps forward. But breaking up with my ex boyfriend made me more insecure and now I am very postmodern. So I can like you but not love you, and it's not good for you to keep seeing me so much as I can sense you grow very attached to me. I'm sure you can find other girls."

I said; "All this proves is how hypocrite you are with your Catholicism and your conservative life values. How can you go so far with a guy and then say there are no feelings involved? I am sure I can find other girls. In fact, I am certain. But you put a terrible curse on me, because you are so extremely beautiful that I will compare every girl to you, and feel unsatisfied."

She became angry and shouted: "So I should feel guilty because I am beautiful? You don't know me! I don't care what you think, you don't know anything about me!!"

Then I met up with Chrissy, because I had already texted her, and we kissed like crazies. However deep down inside I felt very sad. She's coming tomorrow. She just texted me that she is at a world famous museum and that it is amazing. I texted back saying: "Amazing? No doubt. A collection of miracles in art? One of the wonders in the world? Indubitably. And yet, tomorrow evening will be even more amazing."
She texted back that she couldn't agree more.

Now I put my girlfriend on a severe diet because I want her to have the exact same slim petite figure as the other girl, who was 46 kg. But I'm not sure if she could ever achieve it. We spoke about this for many evenings and her only wish is for me to feel fulfilled and complete, and that she will do everything for this, and would love to become so thin and sleek for me that I would feel the self-transcendence when making love to her that I felt with other girls. And I tell her I love her every day, and encourage her to become my thin sex princess, and behave as how I would feel as if I truly felt a 100% in love.

Lessons of this story? There's only so much a man can take when it comes to broken hearts. Even the souls of heroes can shatter. I've become a cynic and sometimes I feel I am not genuine with this girl. But I give her happiness. She feels good around me, and when she sees me she makes this little excited walk and her eyes light up. I wish I would feel for her what I felt for the other one. But as a result I am completely in control of this relationships, whereas in the other I was controlled by my love. I wish it would have been mutual. I don't want to be alone. Tonight I'm going out "sargin'" with my friend. This anecdote just proves how unrewarding it is to be open and frank and faithful and exclusive in relationships. I betted on two ships, and one of them went up in flames.

Thanks, for all the help. I sorted it out. Will explain more when I have time.

I felt as you said I should Mr. Marville. I read you posts and I have trust in your logic. It calmed me down alot.

Ok. Here is the story. Next day she texts me about leaving a msg on fb. I said we can talk tomorrow. She admited I was totaly on the spot of what happened and that she was sorry and felt bad. After alot of making her feel bad I told her that I have moved on from a state of sorrow and that she should too. I had a long talk about honesty. So later she tells me she allready had a guy who was better than me but she chose me in the end. She said it was my imperfection and that he was too good. She said that I give her different wievs on life and doesnt want to lose that.

A funny thing this story about the relationship they started with that guy. Well I didnt ask her details but I allready knew she was dating him before she told me. I can see what she likes and comments on fb so I know who it was. Well I didnt waist time, I started meeting other girls. I ignored her so she had to contact me every time. And in the end of the month we met and she dumped him. Said they didnt fuck. Maybe that is true but it wasnt only kissing im certain of that. So this can be a good advice how to keep an easygoing girl like this.

So back to the story. She talked some bullshit about thinking of me when she was with that guy. Later as I started to think what that guy we met(she kissed) was like I found out he was one of those generic PULosers who read game and acted to be something they are not. No hard feeling to guys that do this shit I know some of you need it. I told her I can suppress my feelings and we can still meet but I will probably never want a serious relationship with her so she cant speak about a commitment with me. Told her we can meet next year (few days untill newyear for people reading this). She sounded excited but said something involving a maybe. When I got her back in a good mood I heard sounds that showed she was realy sad and is now relieved that I forgave her. Quick explanation: suppressing emotions in state of sadness -> change of mood to happy -> showing happyness -> relaxed -> no more hiding -> showing sadness and relieve.
And a funny story happened. Her mom came home she was in a bad mood. She told her mom I was her boyfriend before. I didnt mind. I told her its time to start being honest with everyone and she should start with telling her mom she cheated. So she did.

I dont think I can realy change her but I think its not a bad idea to keep a dog.

Yes. I learned that if you have no true feelings of sincere love, you can dictate the relationship entirely to your terms, and get a girl to do almost anything for you. And then I mean the severest naughtiest stuff.

But if you have real feelings, this is not possible.

So the dog analogy (PUA Ninja used it before) is a good one. Just let her think you two are in a relationship, and do your part sufficiently to keep her available.

And it's Epic that you made her confess to her mom. Thumbs up for this !!

She dumped me. Said I manipulate people and I'm not as smart as I act. She wanted me to confess my love to her and I never speak of that. I dont feel bad about it but it was a shock. Yes I did give her a roller coaster of emotions but I guess it was too much to handle.

Maryville this is exactly what I've gone thru and how I think now, glad to know I'm not the only one haha

More and more this is happening! More and more people come to this forum to assent to my posts. Awesome! One day, this awareness will spread. Join me brothers!

I want to make a comment on what dark one wrote about girls from bad homes.
I tottaly agree with you on that one, becouse i had a very rich girlfriend but she had big daddy issues.
If i only knew that i will live trough hell with her i would left her faster than a blink of an eye.
But stupidass me fell in love and developed strong feelings for this girl.
The thing people don't understand is, that these girls can't be controled. They are so unsure of their emotions and never know what they want. Relationships with them are a mess, becouse one day she's head over heals in love the other you are a stranger. Daddy issues are tricky fellas. Always have your eyes wide open!

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Islam can control them, Robbespiere, the Roman Empire, Third Reich, Imperial Japan, Conquistadors probably, and Inquisition.