The Difference Between A K-Close & F-Close (Gambit!)



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:21 am 
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Ive been meaning to write this up for quite some time now, anyway i accidentally discovered this once, saw its effects and field tested it there and then with amazing results. I've used this technique since then and its helped me K-close HB9s before and leave them wanting more. I've coined this the 'kiss takeaway' and having seen the results, i believe in conjunction with a solid game, this has the power to turn those HB K-Closes into F-Closes!

The Kiss Takeaway.

Story time first! Are you all sitting comfortably at your computers? No? Go grab a beer and really get this one in your head, its now my secret weapon for creating that 'i MUST have that guy!' animalistic desire in women!

I was out for a calm night out with a few friends and two girls i know. With my mind not on sarging at all but having a few drinks and a chat with my friends, i started noticing IOIs from one of the girls ive know for some time. My PUA side kicked in and i decided i had to act on this. I continued the conversation until the next round was due and said "Alright so whos gonna be my new 'going to the bar' buddy? you'll do!" and took her hand and led her downstairs to the bar, bought drinks, and went back upstairs to where we were seated only this time, i decided myself and the girl would occupy the table next to our friends and pull chairs up.

This created a semi-isolation, the tables were small and it would be perfectly excusable to pull chairs up and sit at the next table creating a larger group area which would be easy for me to switch between the whole group and isolating the girl at my command of body language (I did a whole project on where people sit in groups and how they react to barriers and thing for my A-Level Psychology! Time to use it!).

After isolating for a while i used the "Come here.." K-close and made out with her then immediately after said "Cmon, lets go get more drinks, (to group) everyone cool for drinks?!". This in my opinion was a very good way of showing that i have my options and im not going to be needy and show too much interest!

Back at the bar, VERY crowded, i think we were there for about 15 minutes and gave up, we chatted and i went for the same K-Close, so she would know what was coming, only this time, i got close, our noses and lips touched, but i smiled and turned away.

WHAT!? ARE YOU INSANE?! K-CLOSE ALREADY!?! How many of you are shouting that? Because if i were to turn away on a girl i was trying to k-close i'd repeatedly punch myself for weeks.

But what did she do? Smile and let out a slightly frustrated sigh! I could see this was winding her up a little, having some guy make out with her, then go to make out with her, but only to turn away and be more interested in getting a drink than her! ...so i carried on! Each time id let her get close, myself also getting close (not just letting her initiate the kiss), and then smiling and pulling away!

After about 5 minutes of this, she litterally grabbed me and made out with me in a 'i dont care I WANT YOU NOW' sort of way. Trust me, if i had tried any F-close that night i would've been in for one HELL of a night, however i couldnt.

Now if anyone thinks that this happened because i knew her previously or had made out with her previously then let me tell you about scoring a HB9 with this.

So the crack with the HB9, total bitch, knows shes hot, even used the line "im the best youll ever have" to me, in a bitchy way. Got her to sit on my lap, negged her ALOT, anything she said to me i just dismissed and turned it against her asking if she was hitting on me and telling her shes not my type.

K-Close time came, and she would almost have it, except i know bitches and i knew she would just dismiss this and leave before i could k-close her, so i pulled out my new secret weapon (the gambit, not my penis.) and i got close, and pulled away laughing. After a few repeats of this, i had a make out! With a HB9 whos notorious for being a bitch!

So there you have it! Bitchy girls will do this all the time, its a form of push/pull, it just took me this experience to notice it and how i could apply it with maximum effects.

SO GO OUT AND USE IT!!

Comments on the psychology of this and what could be done to take it further or improve it are much appreciated!


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Wow this sounds very good. Like really teasing and dhv:ing. I will acknowledge your wisdom and hopefully use it in a near future.

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I am confused by this?

Does the entire thing refer to only one girl?

You can only K-Close once (hence the reason it is referred to as a 'close') The closing is of the set. Anytime before or after the ending of the set, it is a kiss. (Doesn't change what you are saying but it is very important not to dilute terminology)

It is push-pull.

If there is a second girl,
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K-Close time came, and she would almost have it, except i know bitches and i knew she would just dismiss this and leave before i could k-close her, so i pulled out my new secret weapon (the gambit, not my penis.) and i got close, and pulled away laughing. After a few repeats of this, i had a make out! With a HB9 whos notorious for being a bitch!
The only way it would work is if she already wanted to kiss you. It does not work with getting her to want to kiss you. What is does though is amp up the buying temperature.

Good stuff though.

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Alright... well I have done this in the past. However I have an interesting story.

Alright, so I go to a Chem Lecture and This girl sits next to me. She is roughly an HB7 or 8 so I am sitting next to her and I start making fun of her, I neg her, then she starts talking to me so I go on my laptop and check my facebook. She grabs my laptop and invites me as a friend on facebook. So as I am sitting thereI start talking to my friend to my other side and I say that I need to study tonight. She then says have you ever studied drunk? So I say, no thats stupid and I just dismissed it.
Later however we agree to go have some fun in her dorm room and drink and study a little. So needless to say studying never got done. As I was there, I started pulling a little kino by making her sit on my lap and look at her itunes Eventually we start making out and then I just look at her. She goes to kiss me and I turn my head slightly and say wow we need to change this song. So I get up change the song then go back to her bed and go to kiss her then I pull away. So then I go to kiss her again then she pulls away. So instead of continuing to go to kiss her, I go check out that wonderful itunes again. As I am doing this she gets out of the bed leans on my back and kisses me on the cheek. So I say put something on. So she puts something on and we go lay back down. Then As we are laying next to each other we start making out again then I stop I look ather and take her hair and put it behind her head in a like umm circlular motion I guess... not really sure I just do it. Anyway then she goes to kiss me and i pull away. Okay now here is where the weird part comes in. I made this girl question her existance as a girl.

As I pull away she goes WHAT ARE YOU DOING OMG THIS IS CRAZY. I AM SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS. OMG.
So I say very little.
Then she goes what... how do you know how to do this.
So I stand up and im like what do you mean? and I push her against her door and start making out with her again.
Then shes like I do this to all guys, this doesnt happen to me omg. This is weird Youre fucking with my mind so bad now I know how I treat guys.
So I say, I guess you feel pretty awful?
Shes like no, I have no regrets it was fun, but this definately makes me think never to do this because its confusing.
blah blah blah we continue talking
After this talk I go to see her a day later. She is packing for winterbreak and she gives me her exboyfriends jacket, pretty nice too, So I say thank you no one really gives me anythikng I appreciate it. Then I ask do you want to hang out before you leave tommorow? She says maybe if I have time.
So the next day I call her and she tells me to go upstairs. So I say come here, I go to kiss her and she stops pulls away and says she can't because she found someone else she likes and she doesnt "play the field" like other women (BS if you ask me...) but anyway so I go ohh okay, then I leave. She calls me up later and shes like im sorry if I made things awkward and I hope we can still be friends.

So maybe I did something wrong, I might have gave her to much catstring, I don't know but I am just telling you that be wary when you use this technique.


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The evil kiss take-away. Used on me many-o- times. Women love this shit, they love to feel that they have complete control and the feeling that you will be all over them, if they let you.
In the summer, I was introduced to this cute girl that goes to school out of town, we instantly connected and I kiss closed the same night, numbers and emails were exchanged and she went back to school. When ever she visited we would hook up at the bars and continue this make out session… I wanted to f- close her from day one, but some mutual friends informed me that I had become her “home town make out guy” which was not a position any guy wants to play.
This had continued and my friends had even started to chirp me hard (make fun of me) about how I would spend too much time with her makin out at the bars when she was in town. So I opened my eyes to what some girls (including her) would do that would just make me crazy. The kiss take-away!! I started to just lean in and pull away from her, and then tell her I need to get back with the boys… The very same night I introduced this principal against her, she was f-closed. She told me, that she never planned to have sex with me, she was just super excited. I supposed this is similar to the cat string theory (MM) ?? all I know is that the shit works magic, and I probably use it on every girl I kiss close now.
Having the power to turn her down, turns her on!!!

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Aha i know! This technique is so awesome and i think its exactly cat string theory based.

Important pointers i find to remember are these;

1) You must have already kissed before you start using a kiss take away, or at least know you are going to kiss, this way you cant pull away and have her mistake it for you not wanting to kiss her. Then you have a very awkward moment on your hands.

2) You must do it with a smile so she knows youre teasing, convey the C&F 'look'. If youre a fan of C&F like me, youll know this look! Look at her lips as your faces are close just before the kiss and smile and give her the look! Again so she knows its teasing and you do really want to kiss her, just youre going to make her work for it.

Ive had so many girls do this to me before, and it even works on the girls who use this every time. Its like their biggest weapon and ive stolen it and am using it against them!

Happy sarging people! Believe me, if i didnt have uni work to do tonight, id be sarging my ass off tonight! I wanna game!

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So maybe I did something wrong, I might have gave her to much catstring, I don't know but I am just telling you that be wary when you use this technique.
it sounds like you did everything right, except for the fact that you did it to much...my sister taught me this technique a long time ago, gauge how much to do it by her eyes..done properly they will plead with you to touch her...

i cant tell you how amazing this works with the routines I've just always used naturally( heavy kino basically).

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i've got a question.. who the hell would WANT to make out with a bitch? if i meet a girl thats beeing bitchy and obnoxious i dont care how hot she is, i will spend the night trying to avoid her as much as possible.. i mean, if u meet a dude that u really dont like, and who really doesnt like you, would you try to get him to befriend you? just thinking out loud here..


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