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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:50 am 
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Hey guys, I picked-up a girl during the day. I asked her if she was free this night and she told me that she can't see me no more than half an hour because she was very busy with her work. It was fine for me because this is the first time that I get a date with a girl! The problem is that as I am inexperienced, I f***ed up everything because our conversation was awkward. They were lots of silences, I kept asking her lot of questions although I know that is important to follow the pattern [Statement]+[Question]. I didn't know what to talk about, how to relate with her on a personal level(family, passion,...etc.). I also sensed that she was very nervous because she kept checking her phone and looking around when I was talking. I know now that knowing a lot of theory about PU is useless when you are in a real situation because everything messes with your head. So my question is : How do you bond with a girl without going in a interview mode and keeping her interested? (I would be very grateful if someone posts some example of conversations)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:02 am 
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understanding + implementation = success

at least you seem to have a decent foundation of understanding basic game, now you need to work on your poor implementation, which means practice, practice, practice.


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I have a couple things to share here:

1- girls probably never had some one pick them up in the day time, by saying 30 minutes is because they dont want to be trapped with you for some boring activities for 3-4h.

2- of course its can be a little bit awkward, you just meet her, you dont know a dam about her and you are not that much experienced. Now you should be proud of yourself!! because you did what 80% of men wont do.

3-If you want to avoid question-statements, talk like a women:
-ask why and justify your answers with some anecdotes.
-ask how its make her fell.
-tell her a story that can relate the same experience or emotions.
-use sarcasm, exaggeration or stupid assumption to make it fun.
-make what you do or lifestyle fun and please have some ambition when you talk about yourself, nothing more boring then dating a person without any dreams.

4-learn to vacuum up, that mean when its awkward, she will think is awkward too, but that the perfect moment to make eye contact and smile. Show interest for god sake instead of worrying about fixing the conversation.

I dont want to leave you with just text, so here is an example of a daygame pickup, simple and clear, no tricks or fancy routine, just talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmygPan ... dU0dqpoONw

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:17 am 
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^ +1 that is good advice

also I will comment that
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she told me that she can't see me no more than half an hour because she was very busy with her work.
If a girl told me this pre-date I would flake on the date then reengage if possible for a real date later on. If you accept the terms of her deal for that curtailed date, you walk into the date with lower value. Starting out a date with lower value is very hard to recover from even with good game.

also a girl checking her phone and looking around isn't a sign of nervousness, they are clear signs of disinterest. If a girl demonstrates consistent bad body language I end the interaction promptly. That is also very hard to recover from.


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One thing you can try doing is using soliloquy if the conversation becomes too robotic. Typically you don't want to carry on a one-sided conversation by talking about yourself, however, it can be a good way to display confidence and keep things interesting. It will give her an insight into who you really are and show your passions and interests.

Soliloquy can often be better than monologue because you are kind of answering your own questions and responding to yourself (since she is failing to do so). Then it doesn't come across as a lecture, but instead more of an interesting narrative about you. And who knows, maybe she'll think you are poetic or some shit.

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