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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:03 am 
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So I'm at that stage were Iv'e pushed my ego aside and would like help and critism, this is why Iv'e started this journal also so i can see my progress and my mindset at current intervals.

A bit about me I was born in the northwest of england where girls are more open to talking to strangers and bitch shields dont exist. I moved down to London where I met my first bitch shields and my confidence got crushed whilst openeing sets . Im early twenties have a slight above average game and im slightly above average in looks however i do have insecurties over acne scars .

I've slept with 8 girls and have kissed over 60 ( lost count) however last year I only managed to kiss 2 and sleep with 3 ( dont ask how i went to f-close without k-close or during it just happened) I slept with more girls last year than any other year however it was a slow year for k-closing. Ive never had a gf for over 3 months . I have been in the past "in the zone" for a good few months where i could pull most girls i targeted and chose. Also I have been in the "game" for the past 3-4 years and have improved my personality and life so much because of it.

Iv'e recently just moved back to London and i feel like my game is suffereing because i'm not talking to any new girls i.e. texting or general talking ( use it or lose it ).

My style of game is trying to be natural with minimum canned material ( however if one thing works on one girl i will repeat it in hope it will also work on annother girl)

My following posts I will try and keep as short and detailed as possible if anyone reads my posts i would appreciate the feedback


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Housemates girlfriends Birthday

So she invites her friends around to our house for drinks before we all go out i get showered and my bedroom is next to the living room and i catch one of her mates checking me out big time. I go about my buisness and my roomate tells me that she's "fair game" as in its between me or you who pulls this girl tonight. Now In my mind i have a rule if i rate this girl to be a strong 8 and shes dressed to be showing her best aspects of her body I won't be direct about my intentions as i expect her to be getting chatted up by lad's all the time, instead i feel it's better to chat her mates up instead and give her minimum attention........ which is what i do for the rest of the night.

During this night she calls me into the bathroom of my house and asks me for help . her mate has just cut a hole in her tights and she's wanting me to thread a needle for her, howver she obviously has her tights off and is just sitting there in her underware . I crack a joke about her making that hole for "easy acess" and she laughs at it i make her to do a few things for me before actually helping her. ( I still have the make her jump through hoops mindest). I also make it ovbious that im checking her out and state that its only fair because she checked me out whilst i was in a towel and she agrees. Night goes on and my roomate trys it on with her, hes making it srongly obvious that hes attracted to her and initiates kino he spends quite some time with her the rest of the night and i step down and initate a conversation with annother bunch of girls sitting on a table quite close. I ask my mate to follow me and I go over and open with " Hi , I'm here to talk to you about jesus christ"......... awkward silence and looks " Nah just kidding hey Im o32i5unfj2grn who are you ? " and just talk about general things where are you from what are you doing where is a good place to go? the conversation wasn't leading anywhere but atleast i opened and kept the conversation going for a good ten minutes one of them tried to make out i was too young to be talking to them but i brushed it off and persisted.

The night ended with everyone coming back to mine the first girl i mentioned had told my room mate to fxck off after he tried it on with her and pulled outh the ( I have a boyfriend) she didnt and my plan to ignore her and chat her mates up and just casually chat her up failed as i think i ignored her too much :( shes curently crashed out in a bedroom upstairs man shes hot and she has an awesome gap ! fxck it bring on the next night out !


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Toga theme party

Well this is a pretty funny story , Im in a towel at a party i have invited one of my best friends down and we're just buzzing off eachothers energy introducing ourselves to everyone. Im zoning in on two girls this night, first girl i met on the dancefloor by bumping into her second girl i wagged my finger at her as if i disaproved in what she was doing. Second girl isolates me and goes for the k-close but pulls away ( she does this all night teasing me ) and at one point she puts her hands down my pants to grab my wallet for my id ( for some reason i told her i was 14 ) shes hot and cold all night so id not know if im wasting my time. I go and talk to my friend and she pulls me away back to her shes wanting my attention all the time . I eventually get away from her for a split second and ask my mate what his opinon on the situation is ( whilst im doing this she trys to pull my towel off and my underware in front of everyone ) so i tell her to fxck off ( probably not the smoothest move ) and she slaps me .............. anyways my mates drag me away from her and refuse to let me speak to her until she pulls me asside and takes me outside, i bascally tell her straight that i was asking my friends on the opinon of the situation as she seems hot and cold and i geunianly like her she seems pleased but then throws a door in my face puts her hands down my pants and steals my house keys that i have pinned to my underware and then apparently bites me ( i dont remember the bighting ) Any way i ignore her for the remaining 30 minutes of the club night and i see her trying to chat up my friends ( the old try and make him jealous routine) i speak to her outside and she trys to take me home with her but i refused so she tried to blackmail me with my keys i tell her she can either walk me home and see where it goes or just leave it . I start walking home and she trys to drag me to her place i refuse and she throws my keys over a fence . So to sum up i found a crazy chick who fell from crazy heaven and hit every crazy branch on the way down and drowned in a pile of crazy ................. I can get laid ............. just not to normal sane girls ............. why i need some guidance

Edit and aims .....

On reflection I honestly don't know if i was quite arrognat towards the girl, I had some drunken dreams before reliving the situation so its hard to remember the truth so that could have played a massive role in her bipolar reaction. I'm going out again on friday to central London for a Bar crawl . I think this is where i'm really going to either sink or swim this year.I'm going to foucs on k-closing and Number closing as my house is to far away to f-close and I need to start texting girls again. I'm also going to try and be less arrogant, and on reflection because im going out with a new set of friends that ive never been out with before im trying to make them laugh all the time by doing stupid stuff so im going to cut the seeking approval bullshit out.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:12 am 
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Centeral London Bar Crawl

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2 K-closes
1 N-close
Got into VIP
Had zero approach anxiety ( usually have very high ) possibly because of the vast ammount of alchol I drank

Basically I was on a bar crawl. first bar not much happened . Second Bar I got chatting to quite a few different people , How I did it I have no clue as I have no recolection of most of the things I said . I do remeber opening a fxck load of different people by wagging my finger at them and smiling . I got chatting to one girl who was In a booth by herself I asked her if it was VIP, she was on the gaurd and was trying to push me out of her boothe but I just kept asking questions , like how she got it and then make out shes one of those daddy's princess girls. I ended up pulling her in close and k-closing her. Shortly after I bumped into a random girl who apologized but decided to dance with me, we grinded and then I k-closed again and then i fxcked off or she fxcked off ...... Never mind I was on a high at this point. So I see a girl who I thought was on my course I asked her if she was she said no, general talk about our university followed and i Kept up the conversation she was very attractive I told her I would find her later and I went my seperate way .

(Reading this ive just came to the realisation that I pretty much abandened my friends this night and was either talking to strangers or on my own . Good thing ? Bad thing ? )

Anyways I continued my night and Some girl gave me a speech getting me to sign my email adress for something ( dont know what for cant remeber ) I remeber talking to her for a while after and I robbed her clipboard off her and put her to shame by getting about 5 people to sign by saying " sign" , I litterally walked off with her clipboard and she had no idea where i went till i returned. I handed it over and she said something about adding me on facebook but that never happened in the end :( .

Next bar I go to Im just approaching random people alot ( I was really drunk at this point ) and the extremely hot girl that i was talking too before spots me. I start teasing her asking her stupid questions. Asking her if shes a good cook and then walking away from her when she said no ( this is what my entire atitude is when im chatting girls up but i dont know if i do it too much ? ) Either way she walks away and asks me to wait but i dissapear and then i find her later to drag onto the dance floor I dance with her for a bit and try and pull her in closer to me to k-close her but her body language is saying shes not ready to i dont push it ( Is this a mistake ? ) . I dissapear again and find a friend i keep opening sets staying with them for a few minutes and dssapearing and then forgetting who ive already opened. The night ends and I get that girls number by saying "put your number in my phone we should continue this".

Our original ride home was messed up so we had to share a cab with my mates and her mates i was sitting next to her texting her saying that i was sitting next to a werido what should i do ? she would reply hit her , I would reply but she looks like she bites ........and it would continue so forth.

I text her today saying "Hey , Just making sure you got home alrigtht after you dropped me off and your not liying in a gutter somewhere " she reponds quite well and i have been texting her all today ( I havent done text game in a while so im kind of over analyising every text ) shes also not replying for a good 2 hours ( im doing the same also) But i dont know where to head with this texting and what i should be talking about lol ?

Aims
To follow up this girl until she clearly says No or i succeed in someway
To set up a day 2 ( havent done that in a while)
To try and be less cocky and more cheeky


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:45 am 
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Don't have much to report , with this night out I striked out

Delt with a cockblock but then nearly ended up punching him

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Went out with rugby team and a few other girls sports teams on a night out, 0 K-close or number closed , still approached, Forced myself out after feeling pretty low and forced myself to open girls non verbally on the dancefloor, this part is getting pretty easy for me now.

So I go out with my rugby team after being whooped big time in our game , so i wasnt in the mood at all for drinking but i force myself to open sets

so i open this one girl around my uni and my team mate came over and tried pulling a robbery on me ( I'm not an idiot I know when someones trying to take a girl off me or cockblock me ) He's done this a few times, lets me open a girl put all the heard work in and then comes over and makes it obvious that im hitting on her by using dickhead lines like " so are your chat up lines working on her ? " and then introduces himself and trys to pull her away from me. However I have a very basic technique for dealing with this one . I decide if im going down we're both going down so i introduce him as" my boyfriend" and if he denys it i just say " I just can't understand why your ashamed of our relationship in public, when you get home all you want is cuddles and kisses" Either the girl knows i'm messing and her attention is directed towards me again as she's laughing or she actually buys it.

But yeah we move on to a club I try opening a few sets on teh dancefloor i manage to open a few but i just can't hold a set im just not feeling up to it so i tried doing what Tyler durden said, which is to not draw satet from your enviroment but from within , it worked for about 5 minutes but id forget about it and be back to feeling shit .

This cockblock is being an arogant dick all night, which is winding me up and he knows it but he's not to bothered by it. I decide to play text of death with some girl where you swap your phones over and text a random contact on their phone . She text some girl who has a crush on me , A lesbian and my Mum the same text message ( I want to lick your body up and down and sit on your face) Did not end up well with any of them aha.

My friends are busy talking to girls from our university sports teams ( I was absent from going out with them last year so i missed out on chatting them up theyv'e basically been through the entire rugby team . thats all the rugby team chat up and i cant be bothered with that as it's having your friends sloppy seconds .Due to this I have no wingmen for girls i open in groups which is a real weak point for me.

Anyways I go talk to a girl from our uni and the cockblock is there and starts punching me in the kidneys telling me to fxck off and he keeps hitting me in the arm and swearing at me so i tell him straight " You fxcking act like the way your acting to me again and i will deck you ( punch him in the face) " he shut up and i havent seen him yet

In conclusion I have gotten rid of a parasite and I'm going to have to keep trying to chat up random girls by myself which are munch harder to do so than uni girls but then atleast I'm happy in knowing i havent had my entire rugby teams sloppy seconds.

Next Mission is to go out in gay town with a gay friend as a wingman (for girls)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:43 pm 
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interesting with the cockblock, I would of decked him the 1st time & never associate with him. He was not even AMOGING like me & my friend will occasionally AMOG each other as it is fun & the handicap it gives you just makes your game better.

How are you finding sarging alone? I used to be able to but not no more, a good wing is all you need to be successful, but a good wing is hard to find.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:11 am 
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sargaing alone has been quite hard for me , i just seem to be talking to girls and trying to hold 3-4 girls attention at once whilst trying to isolate 1 girl and i usually get blown out :\. I have been winging one of my housemates a lot and i think he is starting to recognise my game style which is helping me quite a bit.

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End of term summary

I havent been keeping this blog updated as well my nights out have just been me drinking too much and doiung stupid shit so i'm summarising a couple of months into this .

Fxked one girl (insanely hot, quite a bit of graft went into that one), k-closed 5, N-close 2 ......... I find these results quite shocking to be honest though, i need to push myself further, I know i'm not at my best and its frustrating me so much.

I have a problem though i'm not attracted to all girls, i just couldn't imagine bringing some of the girls i see home and shagging them, some of which have basically handed themselves to me on a plate, where as the majority of my friends are just shagging whoever

As I'm going to my home city soon and going out sarging with my best mate, who describes his situation with girls now as " I'm just shagging for a laugh" ( which he means he's shagging so much he doesn't really care anymore) I'm hoping this will pick my game up before i return to London for round two


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Yer I am finding it hard to keep attention of 3+ women, I can do a 2 set with ease & coming so close to a threesome, I have met a lot of guys on these forums but no one consistent to wing with, my mates are not interested in going out so they must like being single lol

I am so close to wanting to F-close everyone but I am holding back, I am really picky 5 foot 2 inches & below is my type for some reason I am drawn to them.

Are you still based in London? if I ever come back I'll get on you reckon we'd game OKAY.

Liverpool is really good now, I may get a city apartment to game most days so I am not taxiing home & get the wanna be PUA's to stay as it will hopefully always give me a wing.

but saying all this I went to a club last night left my wing in set & sarged the hell out of it so close to closing aswell but was no where to help with 3 sets.


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Toga theme party

Well this is a pretty funny story , Im in a towel at a party i have invited one of my best friends down and we're just buzzing off eachothers energy introducing ourselves to everyone. Im zoning in on two girls this night, first girl i met on the dancefloor by bumping into her second girl i wagged my finger at her as if i disaproved in what she was doing. Second girl isolates me and goes for the k-close but pulls away ( she does this all night teasing me ) and at one point she puts her hands down my pants to grab my wallet for my id ( for some reason i told her i was 14 ) shes hot and cold all night so id not know if im wasting my time. I go and talk to my friend and she pulls me away back to her shes wanting my attention all the time . I eventually get away from her for a split second and ask my mate what his opinon on the situation is ( whilst im doing this she trys to pull my towel off and my underware in front of everyone ) so i tell her to fxck off ( probably not the smoothest move ) and she slaps me .............. anyways my mates drag me away from her and refuse to let me speak to her until she pulls me asside and takes me outside, i bascally tell her straight that i was asking my friends on the opinon of the situation as she seems hot and cold and i geunianly like her she seems pleased but then throws a door in my face puts her hands down my pants and steals my house keys that i have pinned to my underware and then apparently bites me ( i dont remember the bighting ) Any way i ignore her for the remaining 30 minutes of the club night and i see her trying to chat up my friends ( the old try and make him jealous routine) i speak to her outside and she trys to take me home with her but i refused so she tried to blackmail me with my keys i tell her she can either walk me home and see where it goes or just leave it . I start walking home and she trys to drag me to her place i refuse and she throws my keys over a fence . So to sum up i found a crazy chick who fell from crazy heaven and hit every crazy branch on the way down and drowned in a pile of crazy ................. I can get laid ............. just not to normal sane girls ............. why i need some guidance

Edit and aims .....

On reflection I honestly don't know if i was quite arrognat towards the girl, I had some drunken dreams before reliving the situation so its hard to remember the truth so that could have played a massive role in her bipolar reaction. I'm going out again on friday to central London for a Bar crawl . I think this is where i'm really going to either sink or swim this year.I'm going to foucs on k-closing and Number closing as my house is to far away to f-close and I need to start texting girls again. I'm also going to try and be less arrogant, and on reflection because im going out with a new set of friends that ive never been out with before im trying to make them laugh all the time by doing stupid stuff so im going to cut the seeking approval bullshit out.
this is why it's a good idea not to get too drunk on a night out. you lose your edge. BUT it sounds like the girl was fucking mental! i think you had a lucky escape not fucking her!!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:19 pm 
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sargaing alone has been quite hard for me , i just seem to be talking to girls and trying to hold 3-4 girls attention at once whilst trying to isolate 1 girl and i usually get blown out :\. I have been winging one of my housemates a lot and i think he is starting to recognise my game style which is helping me quite a bit.

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End of term summary

I havent been keeping this blog updated as well my nights out have just been me drinking too much and doiung stupid shit so i'm summarising a couple of months into this .

Fxked one girl (insanely hot, quite a bit of graft went into that one), k-closed 5, N-close 2 ......... I find these results quite shocking to be honest though, i need to push myself further, I know i'm not at my best and its frustrating me so much.

I have a problem though i'm not attracted to all girls, i just couldn't imagine bringing some of the girls i see home and shagging them, some of which have basically handed themselves to me on a plate, where as the majority of my friends are just shagging whoever

As I'm going to my home city soon and going out sarging with my best mate, who describes his situation with girls now as " I'm just shagging for a laugh" ( which he means he's shagging so much he doesn't really care anymore) I'm hoping this will pick my game up before i return to London for round two
geezer, it's not about quantity, it's quality. when you number closed the girls, did they reply when you txt them? if so, then you nailed it! they gave you legit numbers and wanted to talk to you. DON'T compromise your standards by shagging mingers, it's not about that. Try not to over think things....i know it's hard. i used to (and still do) come home and if i hadn't gotten 2/3 numbers i was gutted. but SOMETIMES things just dont work out. I went out last night, approached loads of sets, opened them, had banter and lots of fun.....but came home without a single number!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:27 pm 
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I wouldn't say you done anything wrong at the Toga party, I usually do stuff like that when they piss me off & then there mindset changes & chase me, it’s what all the PUA teaches, but my problem is like you, once I am pissed off I avoid the girl & won’t go near them, I need to realise that I have flipped the game & just take them.

Don’t change the arrogance, I am like that but I call it confidence, I don’t need alcohol if I am in an immense mindset & if I do need the Dutch courage I stay under 8 drinks all night.

I agree with quality, When I number close I don’t get many texts back, I struggle with the whole text game & dating I hate, when they do text back I struggle to arrange things with them 

Do you Facebook with girls, I do not but I went out with a PUA at weekend & he has added about 20 girls, he complimented my natural direct style with hints of cocky game.

One thing I hated about London was Logistics, In Liverpool I taxi 4 miles & is OKAY only £10-£15 weekends or £8-£12 weekdays, London is just frustrating.

Keep it up guys :-)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:17 pm 
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Thanks for the reply guy's , Iv'e been home in Liverpool for about 2 weeks . In that time Iv'e only been out once and I ran into a group of girls that I haven't seen in a while, started talking to one of them and Im going ( sort of ) on a date with her in a few day's time . I'm hoping on trying to go back to hers as my logistics is rubish SPAM ( box room in my parents house ) aha . Iv'e only got a couple of weeks left up north and i'm going to make the most of it ! Hope you've had a decent christmas :)


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Good stuff fella if you ever wanna meet in Liverpool let us know I love this thread & I live there with parents LOL, been drinking when I have been gaming lately & success has slightly improved as I am more willing to go for the close.

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