What's up guys! Just heard about this forum at work earlier from someone who comes on here often and he was giving me some kick ass tips so I figured I'd come on here and see what's good!

So I'm 18, I'm around 143Ib and about 5'10. I'm Italian-American (Family came from Italy, I was born in US) so I have like a giant nose, people always think I'm jewish, but anyways.. I've had 3 girlfriends in my life. 1st girl was my junior year in high school, dated her for a month and she dumped me. 2nd gf was a couple months after that and we dated for a week and we agreed to break up. 3rd gf was almost a year ago. I crushed on her my sophomore year, she rejected me, I moved away and moved back changed, and so we dated for 3 months and she dumped me. Now I've been out of high school for like half a year, work at a restraunt, taking a break from school, haven't dated or spit much game in a while.

Now there's this girl... I shouldn't even be fucking with her because she's like 16, but this girl is like a straight 10. She's not skinny, and she's not fat. She is like the perfect amount of thickness. And she has a giant ass that's not too big for her but it's just amazing! She's Italian also so she has like a sexy ass tan. She smokes occasionally and drinks every weekend. One of my problems is, she has a shit ton of guys going for her, so I'm not going to stand out if I don't have amazing game and stand out from the rest. This girl is hot, and she knows it! She literally has guys at her fingertips who will do anything for her (Which I was headed that way.) She sucks at texting back a lot and is cool but seems like a complete bitch sometimes.

I may have already lost my chance with this chick though. Couple days ago I decided to "Be a man" and I told her that she was extremely cool and attractive and that I liked her and she kinda turned me down. Wasn't over her ex girlfriend (Yeah, you read it right. I guess she's bi!) and she thought we should just be friends, for now at least! We've been talking for like 3 weeks so that's pretty much where I'm at now. I don't know why I'm even trying for this girl, but I'm like drawn to her. Never wanted a girl this much in my life! But yeah, help a newbie out! Thanks!

I guess you guys can call me by my forum name or you can just call me Jay.

Hey Jay. Nice to meet you. I don't think you lost your chance. Some people might say just walk away if you hear "just be friends" but you have no reason not to believe her when she says "for now". See can see it happening. Just a warning: She is young, so she might string you along unintentionally. And you're not to experienced, so you might not know when to walk away yourself.

You seem like a cool guy from your post. Very confident. She's probably into you. I would be sexually provocative to get out of the friendzone.

Thanks man! But even today I'm hearing more stuff about her like she's a gold digger and she used my friend and I to basically drive her to some sort of lesbian orgy or something.. so idk. Probably won't try and hook up anymore, but if I were going to, what should I do? Should I back off for a little and come back strong or what? Idk how to hook this girl.

Im no expert, but I dont think backing off, and coming back strong is your answer. Stop chasing her? Yes! Don't "tell her that she is extremely cool and attractive and that you like her" agian. No need to repeat what has already been said.(Don't try to take it back tho)

If by "come back strong" you mean do the exact same thing you already did, and more of it. Then no.

How oftern do you talk?
What about?
How much do you see her?
Do YOU feel used after?

Don't let your afc friend talk you into feeling used and abused and don't let me talk you out of it. She could be using you. Idk her. What are your instincts?

How oftern do you talk? We talk often. Probably every other day. Just about random bull. Nothing deep or anything. Only hung out twice cause she's still in school. And I feel used for car rides and to buy her food and stuff. She always asking me to bring her food and I tell her no.

It's good that you talk often. You have plenty of opportunity to run some game. Look around the forum, and read about building attraction. Try being sexual in a couple different ways, and see what you like. Start asking different kinds of questions. Get to know her in ways most people don't.