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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:14 pm 
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Still pretty quiet around here. #2 has become less pushy about seeing me and I don't really want to hang out with her much. It has taken a while and some comittment on my part to not see her much, but she has finally figured out that I'm not into her. I was trying to be friends with her but acting like a lover. I made the mistake of thinking she would hear what I was saying, but the only things she was 'listening' to were my actions. I'm seeing her maybe once in a week now and last time I went to her place I did not F-close.

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I'm sure I've posted about this HB7.5 from work before. She works at this place I do work for and I've been working closely with her in the past month. Many things about her are great... She is single, no kids, late 20's. Attractive although her build is a bit borish, kinda small up top but she is athletic and active at least. She hunts and fishes. Her job is good and she owns her own house. All in all an attractive package.

So I have been seeing her several times a week and she thinks I am the best person in the world at my job. When she needs something she knows I will make it happen. At a recent meeting she was absolutely doting on me to a group of consultants. I felt like she went a bit far with her praises and it made me wonder if she was really expressing her interest in me. The thought went through my mind at least...

So about a week later I went to her office and when I walked in she said 'Hey babe! How is your mother doing?'. She made this into a five minute conversation so it wasn't just the usual friendly greeting. I played it right though, maintaining perfect eye contact rules. I need to escalate with this one. I haven't ruled out that she is a lesbian yet though. I know she has a female room mate and no sign of a boyfriend. Anyway I shall try to move to kino next. I have managed a bit of touching while handing things back and forth but no IOI kind of touching yet

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No other prospects on the horizon. It is Christmas shopping season so there should be some nice opportunities in stores for the next month.


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Pretty interesting night last night. The important part involved the HB8 I've been playing around with on FB. There was an event last night at the marina where I keep my boat. She made a post about going down there so I decided to be there as well. I commented that I was going to be watching from land instead of sea, but nothing else. Somehow along an 1100 foot seawall and thousands of people, she and her friends find me. They all had kids in tow (blah) but I it was further proof of her interest in me. This was confirmed later when I had disappeared for a while and then returned to tell her I had somewhere to be. When I got to her, she was facing the other way, so I used this opportunity to make some physical contact. I placed my hand on her back as I got to her and let her know I was going to be heading out for another engagement. I asked her if she had the kids all weekend or were they going out on the town tonight. She said kids this weekend, free next. Then she just came out and said I should call her so we can go out and have a drink. Thing is, yes I'd like to F-Close her but the whole kid thing... Wouldn't mind friend zoning her though, since she keeps good looking company. Not sure if I should even follow up and meet her. Don't want to send the wrong message. Hmm.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:44 pm 
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So I ended up getting sick this weekend so my overall plans were shut down. I was going to stay on my boat at this marina that has a bunch of bars and restaurants right next to it. I had plans and backup plans. Friday I started feeling the bug and decided to wait until saturday to put the boat there. Saturday I was definitely sick and decided it wouldn't be worth the expense of overnighting when I couldn't enjoy it. Some interesting things happened across the weekend though:

Late Friday night, #2 asked me to go to a bar with her and her coworkers. I said only if you pick me up and drop me off before 2am. Sure enough she comes and gets me. I facebook closed two HBs, a 21 year old HB9 and a 20 something HB7. It feels wrong, especially since #2 picked me up, but I have stated and restated that we are only friends. Of course I paid the most attention to #2, but the 21 year old was certainly getting some of those undressing looks from me. She was very cool and remembered serving me.

Saturday I made a plan to take the boat out even though I felt like crap. I was sure to get some pics of the water (amazing that day) and of myself having fun. These went up on FB. This is part of a long term plan to bring the HB9 and her friends out in the spring! LOL I already found bikini pics on her FB. Not sure I can pull her but she'll elevate my value no matter what.

Saturday night I really felt sick but loaded up with Dayquil and went out to the big club where all the Alphas are. I felt like a super AFC that night, but I met up with the HB8 as planned. I got in free because the doorman happened to be someone I got a photography contract for! Then the HB bought my drink. I got some good kino but she was distracted by her drunk friend who kept wanting to move from place to place. Then she got sick and wanted to be brought home. I got tired of puppy-dogging following them around and went off on my own. HB8 left to drop her off, then came back. When I found her again she was in a special section where normal people aren't allowed, but I went in anyway. I didn't get thrown out I guess because she hugged me and security figured I was with the group of people she was with. But in this situation she was crowded by a number of alphas and I couldn't work with it. I decided I would do better to depart than to risk getting booted out in front of her, so I told her I was heading back to a club across town where some friends of mine were.

So I guess mission accomplished, but I don't think she was very into me. Of course that environment is not the best to work midgame anyway. She did text me after I left and said she was going to a different place because the alphas were unknown to her. Perhaps I should have stuck around but I just didn't see any benefit at that point. She is certainly a pretty girl though, and I was surprised at how much I was able to put my hands on her. It wouldn't be a good thing for me to get her alone, because I could see myself f-closing her LOL.

Overall I have been feeling AFC lately. I want an HB8 or HB9 to hang with, but in the past couple of weeks I feel like I'm being kicked down to HB6 only status. I need a break-through somehow. Hopefully some of these Christmas parties will offer up some sort of action.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:19 am 
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Cast a bigger net.

By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of boat do you have?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:39 am 
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The boat is a 29 foot with a flybridge.. so it has a sliding door on back into a small salon and downstairs to a galley and a forward vberth. Basically has all of the things bigger boat would such as ac and hot water, just in a smaller (affordable to me) boat. It's defintely great for staying on over a weekend, not really big enough to stay on long term.

Some interesting updates..

1> Saturday night girl ended up texting me yesterday and told me I should have stayed out there with her longer. After a couple of texts I stopped responding and will let that simmer for a while. It seems I am still in play more so than I thought. I told her she would just have to work harder to keep me around.

2> The second place I went saturday night was where the 21 yr old HB9 I met was going to be with some other friends from work. Well my #2 advised me that little miss 21 fr old was F-Closed that night by a 39 year old! Just goes to show you, don't write them off based on age difference unless they've given good reason to. I must have missed her by not more than 30 minutes, because they weren't around when I got there.

3> From work the HB7.5 from work, who has been expressing some IOI's in the form of compliments and body language, escalated on her own to kino! I was sitting in her chair at her computer and we had been flirting back an forth about work related things. I don't remember what lead up to it, but she came over to me and said something and placed her hand squarely on my back and rubbed it as she said it. This after last week when she texted me from the airport to show me her drink (we had been joking that day about drinking AT work because of the task we're working on). I decided to act on this. She was wearing glasses (which I'd never seen on her) and she just looked amazing with them on. I don't like glasses on most girls but she makes it work. So I waited until 5pm and texted her to let her know she rocks the glasses look. The response took 20 minutes and I was sweating a bit, but her reply was "Why thank you sir!". Better than "Fuck off!!!". Not sure where to go from here, but I suspect I need to man up and ask her out for one of those after work drinks.

4> Just for fun I am on match.com now. I've been monitoring for a while and finally saw a lady worth chasing, so I added a pic and fine tuned my wording. I have some winks and a message, but I don't subscribe so I can't read it! LOL


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:27 pm 
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Cliff notes:

1> Mom back in hospital took away time and energy to do approaches/find sets

2> Saturday night girl has been in a short term relationship, which just went sour according to FB. She's back on the streets this weekend

3> Company Christmas party tomorrow night. I've been debating stag vs date. The HB7.5 from there just told me she was going to go. Stag is what I'm thinking, but a date could be a DHV. Blah. Probably go alone though and just dress in my best.

4> Match.com is the devil! I couldn't take the mystery message so I paid. It was from a mid 40's 100 miles away. A lot of my viewers are mid 40's and up, or fat younger ones. Waste of time and money, plus it takes your game off the street where it should be. I'm tweaking my profile since I've paid anyway now. Just putting more pointed demands and filters in place. Who cares anyway.

5> No approaches at all. Haven't seen many sets I wanted to approach, except when I've been with HB's and couldn't. It goes to show you, don't waste a lot of time with HB's you don't want. They can become a cock-block in times of opportunity.


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My wife asked for a separation yesterday, knew it was coming but feel like my world has caved in a little.
The postings here are fantastic.

Went out last night and my mate was impressed with how I did & so was I. Still it's hard trying to ignore the feelings of despair.

I hope the do not last for too long.

I have been with my wife for 15 years & now those 15 years of memories gets shoved in a box or thrown in the bin - such a waste.....

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There is definitely life after divorce. In many ways I am much happier but I also miss the stability of having a family at home when I get done working for the day. There are a ton of things I like much more now though and sex is one of them.

When I found out I was getting divorced, I had absolutely zero options for F closing. I set about my mission immediately to find out what I had been doing wrong in the years before I got married (being AFC) and what I could do to make things work that way I wanted. Both of my F closes were directly from my new attitude and the things I've learned from the PUA community. Granted the first one was a bit of luck as far as timing and the initial communication (having known her for so many years but not seeing her for 17), but what I said was completely opposite of what my old AFC self would have said. I F-Closed her the night we went out. One less friend ladder position from my younger years! Mostly it was just about taking charge and being a bit bold.

Right now I still have both F closes available whenever, but I'm more interested in a higher value HB before I want to get serious again. I would settle down with one again but marriage is going to take an act of congress!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:30 pm 
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Christmas Party went ok. A lot of employees have some amazing looking HBs. I have to say I felt jealous several times over. I just don't get how they do it. I struck out big time.

First my HB7.5 that works there shows up. She had her date "Scott" who I'd found out about through a mutual friend. Scott needs to scoot! Well the good news is I got in a nice hug, rubbed her back and then she introduced him as her friend. Scott is my age and wasn't intimidating in any way. My read is it wasn't real serious. She wasn't dressed to any higher HB status. She is pretty mellow in that department and would more likely be found in the woods in camo than a dress. But she looked nice. So that went ok but would have been better if she came alone.

Some other single HB's ranging from HB5-HB6.5 were into me and made continuous comments on my appearance for the night. Later I went out with some friends and met up with them at a bar. Things couldn't have been set up better for me from a DHV standpoint. I was the highest ranking member of the group of 9 people, the best dressed and not the oldest or youngest. I did get a compliment from an older HB about my hair (I'm trying to grow it out) but she was 53+ so I thanked her and moved on.

So here I am in my element. A respected member of the group with confidence and high standard of appearance. This HB8 was standing behind me to my left and I noticed her looking a couple of times as I glanced over my shoulder. Next my friend comes up to me and advises me that she is into me and keeps looking. I said yep I was just noticing that. So I turned slightly and said Hi. She bolted immediately after saying "Hi" back. WTF? My friend was completely dumbfounded. That one ruined my night in many ways.

Next I saw the HB8 that I met up with a couple of weekends ago at another club. She noticed me after about 5 minutes and gave me a drunken wave. I waved back but would not let myself approach her. She didn't answer my texts wednesday so I figured she was sending a not interested response. Sure enough, she never made her way near me. She was all over some older grey headed guy. Ugly in every way too.

I'm feeling like I just don't have it guys. There is something missing, or something present that just rains all over my game. I can pull 6.5's all day but I'm into 8's. What to do?


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Regarding the boat: Sweet... that's really the perfect size in my mind. And you're lucky to be down in FL. During the sumer time, I try my best to live on the boat but am forced to travel overseas often...

Regarding HB's: You're not imagining things. The less attractive chicks know exactly where they belong on the scale; when they get a chance to grab a fuck, they will... but you're also more likely to swing for the fences with them.

The hotter chicks... well, they too get skittish but for all the wrong reasons. You'd think that after all the pick up books, movies, videos, bootcamps, and internet forums, that guys will figure things out but all these girls ever get are one-liners, horn-boy acts, and let me suck up to you in hopes you'll suck my dick in 2 hours acts. These days, I forget my own "rules" but let me try to remember a few:

1. Guys are aware of women. Women are aware of their social surroundings and status. You mentioned that a certain HB was sucking up to a grey haired dude. This is OK for her. She feels that she's chilling with a guy who "looks" successful and academic. The guy is just an accessory and reality has nothing to do with anything. A hot chick is supposed to be exposing her vagina to successful, academic people... that's the story that works for her...

2. Due to the reasons I mentioned above about plain chicks, in my experience any way, average chicks have more fuck fuck experience than hotter chicks. Hotter chicks are too busy worried about their status and what everybody will think about them to let loose and have fun. It's your job to lower their fears, lead them around, and show them a good time.

The most important thing to remember is that you are the master of your storyline. Just consider everything you desire an "already done" issue. When you were married, you didn't plan elaborate things 'hoping' that you'd get laid... instead, you might have planned elaborate things for a Valentine's day but 'knowing' that you'd get laid. Treat every girl you meet as if she's your wife. Already intimate... but treat them with respect. If she's says "hi" and she runs. You find her later and go, "Everything cool?"... why not? This is what you'd do for your wife right? I

And it's not the job of some skittish chick who needs to suck up to some grey haired dude to upkeep her social status to WALK UP to you. It's your job to rescue her from her pitiful existence...


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:03 am 
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Interesting stuff. I like these ideas a lot. I have had that sort of approach to life in general lately, but I was not taking it down to a granular level when it came to dealing with HBs. A little bit of success would really help though. I've been against this wall for a while now and need a bit of a break-through.

Today I ran into a youtube subscriber HB6. She recognized me in a store while I was checking out. A celebrity moment I guess (I have about 600 subscribers). Since she was HB6 I had already written her off before she turned around and said she knew me. Because I had written her off, I was completely caught off guard and did not maintain any control over the situation. I wasn't nervous but I was very pre-occupied today as my mother is sick again (in fact later this day she ended up going to hospital and I'm on my way there now). Lesson learned is that I'm really not as well prepared for HB encounters as I thought i was. Luckily she sent me a message on Youtube afterwards apologizing for the awkward opening, so I can work on my game a bit. She probably has hotter friends so I need to friend zone her at least.

Making the best of the hospital situation, perhaps a good looking nurse will be there tonight.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:38 am 
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Some interesting developments this week for sure. First, there WAS a good looking nurse there but time was limited and I wasn't on my game. Damn.

Last night I took my #2 out to dinner where HB7/8 "Xray" works. She is normally not there on Monday nights but this time she was. She had met #2 previously anyway and the host knew I like to sit at Xray's tables so he put us there. Xray looked totally in the dumps, stressed etc. I quickly noticed her engagement ring was gone! Turns out she broke up with him. Not sure of the details but joblessness and bum entered the discussion. I ended up talking a lot more to her than my #2. I FB closed her as well. Now I have messaged her on FB inviting her to come have a drink at the boat. We'll see. So #2 comes back home with me and I had to make sure she understood where things are between us. Then F-closed her and she left after breakfast. Also she paid for dinner that I FB closed Xray on. :)

This morning the HB7.5 from work (who is becoming an 8.5 in my mind lately) called me pretty early (work related). Then she emailed me twice with more things she needed. I handled it all quickly. An hour later I show up at the main office and run up the stairs. Half way up, there she is coming down! She stops. I stop. She thanked me for taking care of her needs so fast and then comes in for a nice long hug. IOI? So five mins later she tracks me down with a question, but I'm on the phone. She insists I handle the phone before her, so for ten mins she's standing there... during this time she ends up leaning on the desk while standing (yes the famous ass sticking out, but look down my shirt pose) right next to me. She also kino'd my back while saying something. I really want to make a move on this girl, but I'm not sure how to handle the situation with her 'friend'. On one hand I want to neg him, but I also don't want to get her defending him and standing up for him. I have learned from xray above that patience is quite a nice skill to keep around sometimes.


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Mostly glad to put 2012 behind me. There isn't much field action to report. I'm still not feeling the level of confidence that I had a while back. Here if a cliff notes version of my past couple of weeks:

1> Xray from the previous post had split up with her fiance. I FB closed her and then after a day or so sent her a message inviting her to come by the marina one evening to have a drink. She informed me that they were working things out but thanks. Sure enough the FB posts have been happy family enjoying Christmas, happy couple out for New Years kinda stuff. So I was kinda shot down, but the timing wasn't perfect anyway. I'm going to stick around though and see what happens. I don't expect things to last real long with him.

2> The girl from work continues being flirty. I need to make a move. My plan is to invite her to lunch at a really good place right down the street from her office. They all know me as I've been going there for years every week or two, so it should be a slight DHV for me. If she makes excuse not to go, that will clarify whether she has been flirting or just friendly. If she does go, oh crap!

3> Online dating sites are the devil. I've played around with Match, POF and Skout. It seems there are three primary types of women on there. Unattractive looking for love, attractive fake profiles and attractive religious/psycho ones. It goes along with my theory that a 'normal' HB6.5 and up doesn't need a dating site. It's the main reason I swore off ever using one. Why I'm on them right now I'm not sure, but I'm sure it is taking a lot of the wind out of my sails.

4> Field action!! Ok the good stuff.

a> I brought my #2 out for dinner and a drink at this sport bar up the road. It's known to me to have mostly an older crowd. Other than a waitress I haven't seen anything interesting there before. But THIS time, the ONLY time I've ever brought an HB there, two HB's are sitting across the bar. HB8 had no ring, HB7.5 did. 8 was tall and thin and seemed dressed for getting attention. I was very tempted to go talk to her but I just don't think I'm quite that rude to my dates (yet!).

b> Was at Pep Boys when I noticed an HB7.5 working on a shelf. All of the male workers were flirting with her. After walking around a went by her and she asked me if she could help me with anything. I wanted to say "yes, getting your number" but it didn't seem like a good tactic. I should have engaged her but I just don't have any material in my mind to work with right now. She was also younger, 23-25. I feel like maybe that's too young to just hit on while she's forced to be nice as part of her job. I dunno.


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Not much to report. Everyone has the flu in my area and I've been working non-stop and being sick myself. Tonight I am going out though, to at least one club and probably a couple of others.

No direct approaches to report. There is a real cute waitress (yes I swore those off!!) at a new Mexican place I've been going to. She has a fantastic ass and isn't bad looking, probably 28, but a neck tattoo which usually doesn't work out to be a great sign. Still wouldn't mind f-closing her though! Of course I was with my #2 when I met her. A couple of days later I went back with a friend and she remembered me. Very flirty action between us. I'm going to close her next time I go there, whether it is case closed or number close. She would look great in a bikini on my boat!

The girl at work continues to be friendly but I haven't made a decision on what to do with her. She is LTR material and I don't feel ready to go that route yet. I want to at least close a few HB8/9 types before I lock in to something LTR. It seems inevitable that a drink date is coming up with her though. We almost did that this week. Work chaos drove us to the discussion of needing a drink. We've been discussion who is buying!

Online dating report.. I took the big step of deleting my profile from everything I was on. I never wanted to be there anyway but had to at least check it out. Get OFFLINE and OUT into the real world!!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:42 am 
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Slowly getting back into a sarging spirit. The online sites really sap your energy level and confidence. The HB's on there are there for a reason. No HB7+ should NEED to be on there and I would venture to say a high percentage of the ones that are have some kind of social issues. Then your AFC gets on there, works up a bit of confidence to send message to a decent looking HB, only to be shot down. This is a vicious cycle and is best avoided.

1> Buying gas this evening an HB6 employee of the station was cleaning pollen off the gas pumps. She was a cute 6, kind of sexy in a way, and I found myself hesitating to open. We initially just looked and smiled and went about our business, but she was cleaning the other side of my pump. My car (a hotrod that I haven't driven much lately) is black and covered in pollen. I asked her if she does cars too and she responded that if the price was right she certainly would! We made small talk about the pollen and I was ready to roll. She thanked me for buying gas and I was on my way. Nothing special here but at least I opened!

2> HB6 cashier at the hardware store.. nothing special here but I extended the small and had fun telling her about my hot water issues at home. The point of this entry is that in the absence of my online activities, I'm already opening more than I have in the past two months.

My #1 and #2 are still around and that isn't helping my game. At least I'm staying entertained though!


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