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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:12 pm 
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Alright, so instead of beating around the bush, why not be upfront and open about this to her? If you believe you made a mistake, apologize for it. But ask her not to punish you unreasonably. If she does feel she has a fair number of justified reasons to dump you and go with another guy, ask her to be honest about it and do it if she so wishes to.

Open communication is the foundation and soul of a prospective good relationship.

There's definitely some stuff she's keeping away from you and you're not going to get to know that by tackling the problem using all the things that don't matter. Instead, man up and ask her & sort it out.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:35 pm 
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Quit investing so much time and effort into this "Special One Girl"?

Does she have a golden pussy?
Can she suck start a Harley?

Do you worship her because she's more of a challenger than you are?

Apologize? for what? Standing up for yourself? Being a Man?

Why be afraid of what a woman will say or do? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t aren't worth listening to anyway. So fuck her if she doesn't like it.


Open communication...Bla, Bla ..fine for a committed relationship, your not in one!

Wish her well while she's "sick". Offer light at the end of the tunnel. "When you feel better, maybe I'll let you hang out with me".

If she starts acting like a "winy bitch" (after she's well of course), use a line adapted from "50 Shades" "Stop acting like a little girl, it just makes me want to fuck you!" (great book btw! lots of insight)> Why do you think so many women are clamoring to get this book, and walking around with damp panties afterward?

Christen Gray is the quintessential "Bad Ass".

A MAN GIRLS DREAM TO FUCK!

They want mystery and Self confidence. Tension, drama.

Express your sexual intent and attraction all you want.That is perfectly fine. But, don’t let her know you want more than that.

Express your sexual intent and attraction all you want.
That is perfectly fine.
But, don’t let her know you want more than that.
You have to be stone cold impossible to read.
Every time she your interaction is done with you she should be wondering if she will ever see you, talk to you again. She should be wondering how much you like her.

She should be wondering if you’re seeing other girls.

Let her wonder wtf your up too.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:08 pm 
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There's a great problem-solution mismatch here.

1. This IS a committed relationship afaik. They are exclusive. Which is why he expects exclusivity. It might be new but it is a committed relationship.

2. To be "cold as stone to read" is fine as long as it doesn't affect the quality of your relationship. But not being himself is not something that is going to solve things in reality.

3. You are a part of a relationship because you want to be happy. If it's not making you happy, either you fix things or move past it.

To not be honest about how you feel (and at the same time, brave enough to deal with the consequences), and instead, shooting shit around "displaying alpha qualities and letting her wonder wtf you're up to commending on 400 pictures of chicks and beefing up at the gym" is just a waste of time and a consequence of bad selection. Had he still been trying to seduce her, sure, he should have given as much of a fuck. But it's past that phase now.

I mean, I don't understand what prevents an Alpha male from going up to the chick and asking her "what the fuck is up?" instead of wasting his time.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:08 pm 
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Bullshit! Allowing some other POS to be sniffing around her pantie drawer, is not very committed or exclusive.

Just because he's behaving exclusively, does not prove SHE is.

WTF kind of reward does that inspire?

It's not about her, FUCK HER.

It's About Him, his personal mind set.

If you start off from the mental place that you are an amazing guy, and that you don’t need a partner (or anyone else for that matter) to validate you, then you are on the right track. The woman you become attracted to becomes important for you, but not necessarily 'everything'. You don’t depend on her to make you feel important, or like a man, or even loved, because those things are already part of you. Therefore as a man you would still be capable of rational thought, and capable too of knowing that your relationship MAY come to an end, but you know that wouldn't be the end of the world, because you are a slick enough person to find someone else worthy of your affection.

It's about never allowing someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:25 pm 
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Bullshit! Allowing some other POS to be sniffing around her pantie drawer, is not very committed or exclusive.

Just because he's behaving exclusively, does not prove SHE is.
Exactly my point here. There's on two different tracks. He wants exclusivity, she doesn't, then why're they sticking together in the first place? And how are you so sure that she doesn't want exclusivity and is just acting passive aggressive? You don't. You'd rather assume things and act "Alpha" over them, instead of simplifying the whole process and having an honest conversation.
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WTF kind of reward does that inspire?
It establishes that fact that you do not compromise on your self esteem and take up her ways and drop yours. You wanted a committed relationship, she did not. So you chose to be like her and fuck around instead of holding your ground. You changed yourself for her? Doesn't work well in the long run, because that's not you. This was NOT his mindset in the first place and his desire for a committed relationship is not wrong.
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It's not about her, FUCK HER. It's About Him, his personal mind set.
Exactly again. It isn't about her. It is about him and him needs. His current mindset is not happy with her not finding this to be an exclusive relationship. Why can an Alpha male not expect to be in an exclusive relationship? Because it isn't "cool"?
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If you start off from the mental place that you are an amazing guy, and that you don’t need a partner (or anyone else for that matter) to validate you, then you are on the right track. The woman you become attracted to becomes important for you, but not necessarily 'everything'. You don’t depend on her to make you feel important, or like a man, or even loved, because those things are already part of you. Therefore as a man you would still be capable of rational thought, and capable too of knowing that your relationship MAY come to an end, but you know that wouldn't be the end of the world, because you are a slick enough person to find someone else worthy of your affection.


That's totally fine and funnily enough, whatever I've said does not dispute this at all. You can treat your relationship as a second priority and your goal as the first. You can be independent of your partner and not validation seeking. But to be unclear of the basic dynamics of your relationship and to take actions on the basis of that? A wastage of time which will lead to frustration, most likely.

X: I want to know the status of our relationship.
HB: We're exclusive/we're not.
X: Alright, very well/Next.

Big deal?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:39 am 
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This is pretty common. I think you are acting pretty Beta in terms of this relationship. Also, the fact that it's new means that this will happen again, and again. You honestly shouldn't be in a relationship, if you don't have the skills to manage it. Would you trust a pilot flying your plane, if he only trained for a few weekends? I would suggest you end this relationship, and work on confidence and being alpha. This chick isn't cool, or very mature to still be acting all lame and what not. The other guys advice was good too, but I just don't see this ending well.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:09 am 
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okay i freeze her for a day (not texting right away/staying busy) and told her that "ex-getting me back" story, plus i even flirted with girls via facebook and twitter. But I'm surprised shes playing it cool.
She didn't ask too much question about it and even joked about the situation.

I really feel she is starting to think i really don't care about her when i really do.

Right now she is sick and I've been nice to her and comforting but nothing over the top.
Though, I still feel we are not in the same page. How do i get back on track with us attracted to each other again?
Ouch man... whole thing sounds like a game of chicken to me. Personally Im not into chicken and Id cut my losses and get the fuck out knowing I deserve better. Learn what you will and get out or stay and play games with the bitch.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:31 am 
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Just remember this:

If you got into the relationship using the PUA mindset, you can't just revert back to AFC because you have her "locked down" as your girlfriend. If you saw yourself as a PUA when you pulled her, stay that way. Don't revert to being needy just because she showed you more attention at the start of the relationship. And they're right, you have to not be afraid of losing her.

Congruence is key, and right now you seem not to have it.

You can't go onto the forum and ask for advice from pickup artists, then when you piss her off using it go back to her and apologize for it.

Pick a frame and stick to it, obviously I recommend the PUA frame.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:41 am 
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It's never easy to let a chick go if you're in exclusivity thing but come to think of it- It's YOU or her leaving first.

Believe me it's hard to be left out man- not very good for the ego.

You'll have a hard time trying to fix your inner game when this shit happens.

Go ahead and play her game if you want to but if I were you I'll go out with other girls and stop whining about this chick having a "crush" with some guy.

Be the ALPHA male!


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Just remember this:

If you got into the relationship using the PUA mindset, you can't just revert back to AFC because you have her "locked down" as your girlfriend. If you saw yourself as a PUA when you pulled her, stay that way.
Disagree with this. Betaization is a process that you should embrace to a small extent, though slowly. You make a good companion only if you prove to be a good 1. Lover & a good 2. Provider too.

Too much of just one and you're likely to face trouble. Keep her attracted & keep her secure at the same time.

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Just remember this:

If you got into the relationship using the PUA mindset, you can't just revert back to AFC because you have her "locked down" as your girlfriend. If you saw yourself as a PUA when you pulled her, stay that way.
Disagree with this. Betaization is a process that you should embrace to a small extent, though slowly. You make a good companion only if you prove to be a good 1. Lover & a good 2. Provider too.

Too much of just one and you're likely to face trouble. Keep her attracted & keep her secure at the same time.
Maybe if you're married/getting married to her. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up for future failures. "Betaization" should not be a word in this community. If you "betaize" yourself in a lame effort to keep your girlfriend "feeling secure", she's gonna cheat on your ass in a heartbeat. Then, after you've broken up, you're stuck working to "alpha-ize" yourself once again.

Congruence; some have it, others don't.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:38 am 
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Just remember this:

If you got into the relationship using the PUA mindset, you can't just revert back to AFC because you have her "locked down" as your girlfriend. If you saw yourself as a PUA when you pulled her, stay that way.
Disagree with this. Betaization is a process that you should embrace to a small extent, though slowly. You make a good companion only if you prove to be a good 1. Lover & a good 2. Provider too.

Too much of just one and you're likely to face trouble. Keep her attracted & keep her secure at the same time.
Maybe if you're married/getting married to her. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up for future failures. "Betaization" should not be a word in this community. If you "betaize" yourself in a lame effort to keep your girlfriend "feeling secure", she's gonna cheat on your ass in a heartbeat. Then, after you've broken up, you're stuck working to "alpha-ize" yourself once again.

Congruence; some have it, others don't.
Actually, no. If you want a serious, committed relationship, a woman will try try make you do certain beta things, or you might want to yourself at times. You've to bring balance into the relationship after a while and maintain it. This is NOT the same as "Acting beta at times to make her feel secure". As for what this community stands for, you're in the "Relationship" section of the community. 'Nuff said.

In retrospect, "Acting" is a word that should not be used in this community.

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