AFCs first 3 months on pick up^^^^^^


After you get passed your ridiculous concept of not giving compliments you'll get that much better with women.... You don't offer compliments for validation. You offer compliments as genuine pieces of information you are exchanging with them, not to qualify. Your reasoning for not offering a compliment is a a rookie thought.

If you know how to grant a compliment, you have self-confidence (you come in without that "neediness" in your behavior, high value, etc.), and you know what to compliment you can become quite good at using them through out a pick up, a compliment if given correctly should not change the context of the current interaction.

Your thoughts on compliments show your insecure nature, only those with insecurities worry about statuses. The compliment is given to be given not to show her how great she is. Go watch Steve Jabba's videos in the video section so you can see what I'm talking about. You can also go watch his 30 minute description of his first pick up video where he explains how he comes in all high value and so he doesn't worry about neediness.

The compliment style is all about high-value, charisma, positive energy, and just being attractive, people who grant good compliments are remembered as taller, thinner, more athletic, and more physically attractive. If you learn to use the power of compliments you will get so much more play than going without compliments...It takes a skilled man to do it but I'm all about compliments, I know from experiences and what I read in books, not from what I read on a pua forum.

I was going to write a rebuttal to your first post but I read what AFC AzA wrote and it is about spot on.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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In poker they say to play the man not the cards. In pickup you play the girl, not the game. You don't need to neg a hb6 with low self esteem. You can compliment her and it will work out much better for you. But complimenting a hb10 will just inflate her ego even more, and that will make things difficult. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the idea of keeping women down as a general principle, but all I'm saying is that situationally you may do better by paying them compliments. It's like going direct and sexual. That can be a very effective strategy for getting laid, particularly in the club/bar nightgame scene. But with certain women, in certain scenarios, it's an absolutely horrible tactic. You'd be much better off just coming across as a normal, nice guy who doesn't appear to have any particular interest in having sex with them right away.

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my reality is NO REALITY. I dont care to give. Im not here to make her feel special about herself.
If thats your way, then thats your way.

If you don't care to give don't expect to get..... Those who give nothing get nothing....Those who give something get something. That is not why I give compliments but your outlook is going to fuck your life up. You are going to be very unhappy with such a horrid life philosophy.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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my "philosophy" (the word that you used)... I said I dont care to give endless compliments. I believe in balance. If I feel like it I will give compliments. You can give in other ways, like doing. Your a philosopher it seems Vic, you must like books. You like words. I like action. I dont believe i using words to make people happy. I make them happy by treating them good, i dont need to endlessly give out compliments like you. As I said, I dont expect you to understand this, please go on giving endlessly. surround yourself with love.
Love and Light lol

Awful lot of "I"s for someone claiming confidence..... "I"s show insecurity.

Never read a book on philosophy, but we all have our own personal life philosophy whether you say it or not, whether you realize it or not.

Who's to say action is absent in my life? My love for words and books does not make action absent in my life, perhaps you can't balance the need to absorb knowledge with action, most humans can.

It's not about giving endless compliments, why are you caught up on the GIVE? What is with that? If you never grant a woman a compliment she'll never enjoy your presence, simply put they are a necessity through out the courtship process if you want to have a good relationship.

I'm not sure you could possibly at your young age understand what I'm trying to say.... It happens.

Words create thoughts, thoughts push emotions, emotions form happiness among the many other emotions in the spectrum...(falls under psychology too) As someone who loves and agrees body language is far more important I can see some of your point but in the end guys who don't compliment women have limited skills with women, it's simple not complicated. The less tools you have the worse you are at something.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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I see some of your points as well. you said i am young, I am 30. thats not young in my book.
you mentioned words create thoughts, but what are thoughts? thoughts are an illusion, conscious thoughts come from the mind. what is the mind? something that needs to be constantly filled. Thats the purpose of mind. When people say empty mind I laugh. Its impossible, the minds purpose is to be filled. try it, try not thinkin even for 1 second, impossible. And if you say you can you are lying. The only true compliment I can give to anyone is to be 100% in the moment with them with all my attention on them. Just as now my attention is in the post. That in itself is the biggest compliment. Of course sometimes I give compliments, sometimes it feels nice to make someone happy even if its just with words.

Meditation man. and one thing I love about "GAME" is time to time when I approach I got so nervous and get totally blank. like no thought at all. like sorta adernalin rush. so addictive. but it doesnt last long.

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Your age is but a number, your mental outlook is something I had in my youth, I'm 29, what I learned since then has been immense but this is one of the many lessons. By 30 years old negs, negative SPAM, not granting compliments should be behind you. Women 23 and up (at least where I live) need to hear a compliment here and there, I'm not at all saying it's a good thing to have an ego...I'm saying that it is what it is. People need to feel good to enjoy life.

You can be 100% a part of a moment and still grant compliments in fact as someone who loves living in the moment I can hardly account for how not complimenting is good. When I like something I have no problem telling someone exactly that, likewise while I'm quite diplomatic in how I say something (choose my words wisely) when something is bad, I certainly speak my mind.... What is living in the moment but freeing the mind from it's captivity you've called an illusion?

I'm in agreement with AFC AzA, I meditate daily and I think you should, that is the only way to truly live in the present is to not allow your mind to consume you. Meditation performs all of this....If you want to live in the moment there is no better exercise than meditation. Meditation stops your thoughts.... I can live in the moment without a thought, a sign of someone who is truly content and happy is man that can live without thoughts for a moment. If you can't stop your thoughts I'd truly look into some things to help yourself such as meditation.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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This is the right answer.

The difference between just saying "I like you" and "I like you (reason)" is that in the latter she's EARNING your liking, making her feel like you're the "prize," so to speak.

If you just tell a girl "I like you" for no reason, she's going to think "Why? Just because I'm hot? He's no different from all the other guys out there." If you give her a reason like your example about spontaneity, however, you're different and she'll think you're looking past the bullshit she caked on her face.

There can be more than one right answer when it comes to human interaction... This isn't calculus, or physics, the answers are by situation, personality, person, connection, etc. the answer is not definitive.

You don't need a why all the time. Depends how intuitive the conversation is, if she said something funny, you can just say I like you and she understands why..... Timing during the comment changes the value of the comment, it creates context. I definitely understand what you are saying but when I'm in a good conversation with a girl all I really have to say to a girl is I like you.... Of course my confidence is extraordinarily high and I have a definite presence. I recognize attraction and calibrate well enough to know when I can or can't do/say something.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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So here's the deal: your method may very well work. That being said, most people that are on this forum ended up here because of that state of mind. I do what I want, all the time... didn't work for them.

I'm nearly certain that at one point you had this theory and it didn't work for you. So you turned to pick-up to learn a skill set that you didn't know. You changed and adapted and became better. After doing this you reverted to the "confident" I DO WHAT I WANT attitude and it still bred results because you had adopted the pick-up skills into your personality.

Great. It works for you fine. That being said it isn't actual advice. This is the kind of message that you can't learn anything from.

Furthermore, it's the kind of mind-set that will not allow you to keep learning. You'll stale out and end up back in the forums a year or two later wondering why your pick-up skills don't work anymore.

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"May very well work"???? It works, he asked how to do it.... You do it by being very confident when releasing the words, by showing utter congruence with every word at the moment you speak it.

Your advice is sound but it is no worse than his (if you understood it's value it has tons, if not I can see why you'd be upset with it). He even says if you are just starting out better not in his original rebuttal. He gave fine advice if you don't ignore his first post. Remember this is a forum where it is a conversation, you taking the words out of context literally changes the value of them... If you look at it in context all he was trying to say is I compliment them because I want to, not to measure statuses.

Your post didn't really provide any value to anyone. It was merely a personal attack. Kind of hypocritical to say "this is the type of message you can't learn anything from" when you didn't provide any value to this conversation at all with that post. You didn't even understand what he was trying to say, or you just took it completely out of context in which case his miscommunication was a result of your rash post.

Don't put down advice if you don't understand it. He provided it with an original warning label.... What more do you want?

Peace and Love,

Vic

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To those of you interested in context please read poeticlyskuac's entire post.

I've already provided my response to the problem. It was in a previous reply. If you're interested in my post where I've provided "something you can learn from" as you put it, refer to earlier replies.

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Honestly, telling a pretty girl she is hot is not that valuable to her. Its telling her something she already knows, but a thoughtful conversation with interesting and thought provoking question