Ok. So basically when you use a language pattern, the embedded commands are what makes the girl catch onto the context of the pattern. What if we made the context not by describing it in a pattern, but simply be being alpha and high value. I've tested this three times and ur has worked every time. I act like the alpha male and use embedded commands like "like me" and "you like me" to go with me being an alpha male rather than the context of a language pattern. My question is, would something like this be as powerful as an actual language pattern? Thanks for your help guys.

Embedded commands are just one technique and one component in the grand scheme of NLP. Second, hell yea, use embedded commands in any situation to drive ideas/states into the subconscious mind. Sounds good.

BTW, in a normal 5 minute conversation, the first five minutes, how many embedded commands do you think you used? I'm curious. Your style is similar to mine. I have always had a semi-dominant, cocky attitude. I combine it with NLP a lot of the time and it works.

probably around 10. however the first time i tested it i only used three and it worked fine.

Embedded commands are a load of cobblers, don't work, and are completely creepy and weird

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i beg to differ, ive used them before and in my experience they do work as long as the request is simple and do able. they cant make u buy a car or something crazy, but they do put thoughts in the back of your mind. it would be suggestable tho that your speech patterns being precieved as a little off would be beta and women wouldnt like it. so i see where your coming from.

Steve, the fact you even made that claim shows that you have no experience with NLP. It's okay to choose different methods and NLP is definitely one of them and it does work. It just takes practice like any other method and it is just one of many tools to add to your arsenal.