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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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 Post subject: SP: Closing
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:57 am 
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I just suck at it. All indications are there that a girl is into me but I simply fail to deliver when it comes to closing no matter if it's an n-close or k-close. Most of the women i've been with have literally had to spell out to me that they want me.

What the hell can I do here to get past this? It's really screwing me up when i'm out sarging or just having a laugh.


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 Post subject: Re: SP: Closing
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:09 pm 
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Hard to say. Got a couple scenarios you can share with us?

It's usually one of two things. The first is not having a closing objective. Meaning that you don't have a goal or a plan as to kiss or get the girl's number. Then things progress and just kind of fizzle out and nothing happens because you never make your "move" so to speak.

The second thing is that you aren't creating attraction. You sit there and shoot the shit and the girls laugh at your jokes and you build rapport, but they never really see you as a romantic interest because you never make yourself one to them. You don't kino them, you don't get sexual, and then even if you try for a close it comes across as awkward or too soon.

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 Post subject: Re: SP: Closing
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:14 pm 
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A couple of times i've been out with friends and met friends of friends who I got along with really well. I'd gain rapport, they'd give me IOI's such as touching their hair, trying to touch me and all sorts. I've had it where a girl has literally been staring right into my eyes for ten seconds straight allowing a silence to fill the void between us and i've completely baulked at the opportunity.

The most recent was when I was at a cougar bar for a friend of a friend's birthday kind of thing. I approached all the women sitting down at a couch, talked to them and started flirting with the nearest to me by complimenting her and trying to guess her age("Oh you look about 23! What? Why are you laughing? I'm serious ;)"). I did this jokingly with the women next to her to which they looked to my target and said things like "Oh, i'm married. My husband wouldn't be too happy with me talking to an attractive man. Blah blah blah." but my target was still keen. She was giving me a bunch of IOI's, looked like she wanted to have a bit of fun and even held eye contact with me for over five seconds which got awkward for me so I broke it and immediately my game began to die. I just couldn't close it.

From what you've said I generally think the problem is I don't really have a plan. :/ I get nervous when I think about afterwards and how i'll fill the void in time and what if I won't want her around and all that. Then again, i've had situations where at the end of the night, while walking home, i've not gone in for the k-close or n-close when it was obvious I should have.


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 Post subject: Re: SP: Closing
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:46 pm 
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Okay, so that's your sticking point. You dont' have a good closing game plan, and when you see opportunities to close you chicken out. How are you going to fix this? If I said that you smell bad, how would you fix that? The answer would be obvious.

You need to tell yourself that you are going to kiss this girl before she leaves your sight. Just by thinking that you will create that vibe and she'll be drawn into it. You'll start staring longingly into her eyes. That will create attraction. If you have no idea what you want out of the set it will show in the blank empty expression on your face. Get it?

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