Interesting article by Dude Quest.
The Men’s rights movement is populated by men that have recognized for themselves the fact that American Society, and much of world society, has been corrupted by a combination of special interest groups, rampant commercialization of elections and legislation, and pandering to radical groups that control large voting blocs. Their primary enemy thus far has been radical feminism. Their reasoning is that men have been marginalized in all social sectors despite enormous evidence that the male aspect is not only important, but indispensable to creating a healthy social construct. They are working to bring ‘equality within our abilities’ and fight against legislation that brutally tears apart families, allows women to strip resources or even freedom from men without legal recourse, inflicts humiliating and debiliating social and financial penalties on men that seek to behave like men according to current and past social paradigms, and automatic discrimination against men in venues such as legal hiring practices and family court.
Pick up artists, on the other hand, tend to work within the system as it is set up now. Their reasons are various, but primarily they are seeking happiness without demanding activism or change, and while avoiding the pitfalls of the legislation that men’s rights activists are attempting to change. They work with complicated and proven social theories in order to behave like ‘stainless steel rats’, obtaining what they need and desire and making a minimum of impact. Many pick up artists are also attempting to encourage social change at the grass-roots level, but these are few and far between… on the whole, however, there’s a strong question of whether pick up artists are a symptom of a sick society, or whether they are the ones that truly see what society has become, and cleverly manipulate human nature and the social system to triumph despite the obstacles that are in their way. The operate at the ‘alpha level’, and there is a lot of evidence that suggests that this is the level that most men were designed to operate at.
My question is to those who have found this site… do you wish to be a hero and try to change the world? Or do you wish to be a success and change yourself? My only suggestion is to try to be both… change yourself so that you can change the world.
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My own opinion...
Let me go ahead and answer I stumbled on these MRA's because unfortunately they cant just hate on feminist they are actively targeting the PUA community and some go so far as to openly in video's or usernames say there misogynists. I'm not exactly a fan of feminists either but Ive seen many of their videos that are hateful and cant be reasoned with. It seems a lot of them have been hurt by a woman in the past and instead of moving on they decided to hate all women. Thats not to say that the legal system of child support and custody for men shouldn't be reformed. But every MRA Ive crossed paths with are extreme and cant even be be open minded to debate they just hate PUA's and use generalized assumptions of what a PUA is. Some MRA's on You Tube like barbarossaaaa use a sophisticated arsenal of words to convey there beliefs. We as PUA should not be afraid to shoot down these MRA extremists when they want to pick a fight with the PUA community who didn't even know who they were until recently. The interesting thing to me is that both beliefs structures spill over each other over in some aspects. One side the PUA's cheat the system and love women the other hates women and wants to change it but both agree in there own ways that the AFC dating world is broken. I think the PUA community and as individuals know the American/pop culture dating love romance is a broken system that's why its so easy to cheat it if you know what your doing. For example cold approach is a taboo to the general population that usually only PUA's pull off at our own advantage because its out of cultural norms. In hindsight I fear these MRA's may be trying to win over guys struggling with women and instead of working on improving at the game, personal development, social skills and physical fitness that PUA's teach. Many could get sucked into the MRA hate I wish I could say that these MRA guys where fighting for mens rights but they seem to be the male version of feminists "Menimists" and that's just crazy to comprehend. Whats even more interesting are the MGTOW phenomenon in Japan and is making inwards state side who are Men Going There Own Way these guys. is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. I say good less competition for a struggling PUA' community. Its seems we are living in interesting times but now we PUA's are not alone there are new groups on the block and they don't like us.
The time for a more unified PUA community may be needed to at least define ourselfs from these groups PUA community should not be associated with these groups. Ill be keeping tabs on these groups and there attacks on the PUA community.
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