Hi all,

Been into Game for about a year now. Strong believer of field experience.

I just dont seem to be able to get into a relationship though. I'll get a girls number, go on 2or3 dates, then she flakes and repeat with the next one.

I am reasonably good looking, reasonably confident, but obviously something I am doing to not attractive.

Any ideas?

First of all, are you f-closing any of these girls? If not, then that's your sticking point and you need to bone up on seduction strategies (no pun intended).

If you establish an intimate relationship with them, then it's much easier to establish a romantic one. Once you have romance it's just a matter of becoming exclusive with each other or finding a relationship dynamic that you both can agree works for you as sexual partners.

I'm thinking that you probably aren't establishing any attraction, probably due to a lack of kino, and you are losing these girls before you have sex with them. Am I right?

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Yo thanks for your reply,

Yes, out of the last 4 I have f&cked 3. They were after 2or3 dates maximum.

It gets to me a bit, I see some of my pals who are so so so AFC in relationships and think wow, what am I doing wrong here.

Any thoughts on this?

I am concerned that I am not learning from my mistakes......

You are not giving us a whole lot to work with here. You're problem could be any number of things: Bad Sex, Needy behavior, not enough rapport, social awkwardness, etc.

-Wolf

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Hi Wolf,

I am unsure what part I am getting wrong.

Almost certain its not bad sex as connect pretty well on that level. Could be any of the others or something else but I just cant put my finger on it.

One thing I thought it might be is that I am developing traits of a batchelor, who doesnt seem to open to people, lacks responsibility or prefers to isolate themselves from any type of relationship.

Anyone understand what I mean?

Well..its easy, its because "field experience" doesn't equate getting your shit together internally. Further, if its a consistent pattern- then you gotta ask why.

Ok thanks for your reply, so I need to work on inner game stuff/beliefs?

Any recommendations for what has worked for you?

Might be as simple as something like your job/future doesn't seem to be going anywhere, or you have an extremely messy flat or house, or you live with your parents or whatever.

Any of that or that sort of thing apply? I mean, chicks are like us in more ways than they realise - they might be attracted to aesthetics etc but just not consider someone 'relationship material' for X or Y reason, X or Y being domestic stuff or future-proofing.

Its hard to say what you are doing wrong when we dont know what you are doing in the first place. I know you say you have PUAing the last year but there a certainly different levels of this and different people are better or worse at it.

We need to know how you are handling these girls when they start to flake also and also how do you handle them after f close etc? Do you continue your game or go a bit AFC because you feel they will now stick around?

I believe inner game can always be improved no matter how much experience etc. Really wanting a girlfriend can def cause AFC traits also. IE you contact her too much because you think every time you meet a potential GF "This is surely the one this time" etc etc. You have to keep your cool and it will happen

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^ It's basically a distilled version of things I've learned to lay a foundation for ppl, further it gives theory and exercises- which build on one another.

That's the same problem as i have (and i'm trying to get out of it).
It's because you run out of things to do and say. And why?

We watch a bunch of videos about guys in field, and we do what they do:
- Tease, play, kino, etc... but we don't see what they do after words, so we don't have nothing to mimic.

I don't quite have an advice to you, i'm trying since the beginning to make the much comfort as possible on touch, that make me able to go to the next step, the close up.

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It could be a lot of things. Could be the type of girls you are gaming. Where do you pick them up at? If they are young and promiscuous, then it's no surprise they aren't willing to become gf material. Also, it could be something about you personally that they find out and don't like. Perhaps you are one of those clueless guys who has an absolutely disgusting bathroom and the girls don't ever want to come over again after they see it. Who knows.

It could also be that you are giving everything up right off the bat and not holding anything back. Once the intrigue is gone and they know how you fuck, what incentive is there for them to stick around? You may just need to be a little more selective with women from the outset, or be willing to let a lot of them go after you sleep with them. That's not so bad, and it's actually how it should be. You sleep with a bunch of women until eventually you find a keeper.

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