At the moment push/pull is one of the weakest areas in my game. So there is one girl that have flaked on me before, but still showing IOIs. So I figgured I should try some push pull with her. Let me know what you think of this:

Friday I got a drunk call from her, asking me if I was out drinking. I think she wanted to hook up. I declined since I was having a girl over at my place. After I declined she called me 2 hours later (03.00), I didn't answear since the girl I had over was sleeping next to me. this is push, right? I don't think she expected me to decline since I have done nothing but pulling the last weeks

I also have a date set up with her on monday (tomorrow), but I have a feeling she will flake. So I want to flake on her first! But if I do that without any pull between, I fear that I will shutdown all atraction. So saturday I went for a training session where I work, and I knew she was going to be at work that day. So I sat down and chatted a bit with her, good kino (gave her a massage that she loved). Also did a lot of comfort building.

So now time for the push/flake. I texted her that I won't be able to make it tomorrow + some callback humor. She replied after 8 minutes with "Ohh, thats too bad *responding to callback humor*:)" I also made sure to send this txt in the evening, so she would analyze/contemplate on why ("what have I done wrong") when going to bed.


Did I play this right? Is this good push pull, or am I way off track?

sounds good to me, but providing a too much comfort and a massage before f-closing her is dangerous ground, unless you are really pursuing a croqueting type of game (Mystery/ Love Systems) style.

Thats exactly what you should've done. I think you may have taken my advice from previous threads about this same topic, perhaps?

It also makes it easier to push when you have a legitimate obstacle in the way (another girl in your bed!) which is also the correct thing to do. I like how you are kino'ing the girl then when SHE wants to take it further you are like "Sorry, busy."

Basically you just need to arrange a meeting for an f-close now. And if she gives you even the slightest resistance, just be like "Why are you so difficult to hang out with?!" and put it back on her like it's her fault you've been pushing her away. They love being toyed with like that.

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I see. The problem I have had with this one is that I had a lot of attraction going in the start (2 months ago), but because of her flakyness I have had trouble getting her out. And attraction have been harder too keep, feels like I have used all my "ammo". Lately I have tried escalating KINO as much as possible so I don't end up in the friendzone. Also used more and more seuxal inuendoes.

Any other tactics to deploy for keep attraction with a girl whom you speak to on a regular basis, but haven't gotten out on a date/isolated yet?

Yes, big fan of your posts puaninja!

Last night she gave me a rant about filling in a resignation for one of the two part time jobs she has. I saw this as a huge warning that I was going in the friendzone. So what I did was to not engage in the rant, but rather suggested we grab one drink to celebrate it! (turning it into something positive).

Long story short, after 2,5 months of trying to get her out on a date, I got her out within 24 hours of deploying the push pull - powerfull stuff! Alltough I got it all wrong with this girl. She is actually somewhat introvert, and alltough her body language was very favorable towards me on the date she was surprisingly quite nervous! Nevertheless, did K-close.


So on push pull, do you reckon it should be used all the time, or just in some parts of the process ?

Push Pull should be used regularly, but you have to calibrate to make sure you aren't over doing it.

I banged this stuck up hottie a couple months back and I was using a lot of push pull and telling her I was busy and not letting her draw me into her frame. But I went a little too far with it and kept telling her that we'd never work out, that she's not my type, and that I hate her. I of course said positive things to her as well. However, she eventually was like "Wtf dude! Why do you keep saying you hate me?"

The lesson I learned there is to only push within the limits of what she is comfortable with. If you push too hard or too often, you will literally push her out of your life for good.

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Ah. Thanks for the advice!