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If your a high value guy who leads the set then thats a journey right there. YOu just gotta be fun and interesting. Well thats what I do anyway...lol

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I can think of a few, but could you give some good examples, from a girl's point of view Erin?
For me it's all in the effect your going for. If your going for the normal pu tactics which are just to make a girl like you and want to do something with you, this isn't really enough for me. this to me is more like a sweep her off her feet tactic which basicly to me symbolizes sweep her off her feet and into the bedroom.... not neccissarily romantic.

The sweep her into and adventure is a little something different. It means that you really actually seem like you're less about getting laid and more about getting into a little bit of trouble :twisted: and fun or doing something creative and unique. You focus on this rather than focusing on creating enough social bond to get laid... it's kind of like a step above creating the social bond. It's like "cool, me and this girl have something, but can she hang with my adventurous side?".... now of course you have to actually have an adventurous side to begin with but, that's kind of what I was saying.... that's what I was looking for.

A sweep her into an adventure focuses on the adventure, not getting laid... but that will almost always come after you've been adventuring... it's like icing on the cake... you can't leave the cake without icing!!! It must have icing! or else it's just a loaf of sweet, soft bread... nothing special at all. If you sweep us girls into adventure you build rapport and make us as soft as icing at your fingertips


Some examples of invites used that didn't work and why:

* Let's go to that new fancy night club. <--- while this is nice and kind of impressive that you have taste, it's boring.
* We're all going to the beach to chill, wanna come? <--- this actually worked to get some of my girlfriends out of the club, but for me it was, once again, too boring
* We're having a hotel party, you should come <--- once again worked on a few, but I mean come on, a hotel party? in Hawaii? like I've never donve that before!

Here are some examples of what could have worked but no one was ever able to use... first the "same nighter"s

* Let's go to that creepy korean hostess bar and act like we're from the Adams Family <--- now this is funny and an adventure. I'd go almost anywhere if I knew I was going to get to laugh a lot.

* There's this party being held down at Sandy's Beach (lol... how original a name for a beach eh? but it's actually one of the coolest beaches on oahu) there's going to be a (enter name of super interesting type of party.... but nothing I've ever heard before) I heard that (name of someone else I've heard of preferrably someone I'd want to meet that you could get me an introduction to) is going to be there. <--- this one shows less of your creative side, but it shows more of your ability to have cool invites and connections, which is interesting to me, especially if I know that there's more where that came from. Night club promoters usually fall into this category, but anyone whose popular can tap into their resources for some unique events

* Let's go back to my hotel, I'm only here for two more days <--- would you believe that this is the one that worked on me? However this was before The Game, and now a guy would seriously have to have ALOT of character to back it up as well as rapport. Now also granted, the guy was smokin' and I was still showing LMR just cause I'm actually really really cautious about going out with people out of the club... for the reason that I've heard of things happening to girls like what happened to me that night... but any how it worked. and that's the point right? The reason it worked was A. because very few guys had the confidence to just ask me to go back to their hotel room B. It's super naughty, scandalous and dangerous... in other words exciting. C. he gave me time constraint. Have you ever noticed how businesses are always saying "for a limited time only"? It's an influence tactic that narrows your options... i dunno, I reccomend reading Influence by Robert Cialdini... great book. D. He was fuckin smokin and he had an accent! F. Like I said before, today you would have to have a lot of report with me today to get me to do something like this. I will admit that the occassion I'm talking about was a bad choice, but I recognize that it wouldn't ALWAYS be a bad choice, I know today how to analyze and see through situations like this... pretty well.

***** These ones are for the next day or a few days hence, which is always nice because it shows that your interested in more than a fling *****

* Do you drink coffee or tea? Tea? me too I hate coffee... you wanna go for some like i dunno this weekend or something? <--- not only did we have tea a few days later, but then he went to the movies with me and my friends, then ended up getting a ride home from me (he gets around skateboarding) where I ended up going to his bedroom... (after going to some cool random places and listening to some awesome music... his and mine) in his parents house and then we got it on! this is the line that unfolded into the greatest love of my life. This guys is the REASON I study...and live the pick up arts. He is a street magician, a super good one at that. He's also an INFAMOUS heartbreaker... from what I've heard about this guy, there is no woman he couldn't seduce... he's been with hundreds and hundreds... and most of them are in love with him, if not all. Shit, last I heard he was in Germany living with the lead singer of his favorite punk band. and he told me himself! This kid is the standard to which I hold men... and no one has even come close yet. The reason this worked is because it was unique, it's something that's a little more socially elevated than like going to a club or the mall.... it's kind of like sophisticated. Which the next ones will be more like. this next one came from the same guy a few days after tea

* I'm going to the forest to go camping with soandso and soandso. <--- I honestly don't know exactly how he did this, but I had to go, I seriously almost begged him. He had made a little fort out there with his boys which I hadn't seen yet, and he's all mysterious and punk rock, and I don't know, but I had to go! And you know what it was the best date I've ever had with a guy... actually no, there are a few that I've had with him that compete equally. He's a fucking master seducer.

* Have you ever been to the contemporary art museum? we should go sometime. <--- once again something different, unique and socially elevated, which is rare, it shows you have taste in the arts which I personally like... mabey not all girls would like this, but for example for other girls you might ask if they like the museum, the aquarium, film festivals, buddhist temples, super unique sports events like fencing or something..., film festivals, poetry readings, political rallies the point here is to do something out of the box

* Have you ever been out tagging? <--lol, this one would work! It's really dangerous, yet fun... and there will always be that little mark that you guys left on the world together.. and every time she sees that, guess who she's going to think of?

Anyways, when you want to have an adventure try to include at least a few of these elemants:
1. danger
2. social elevation / non-conformity
3. more than one locale... it becomes more of a journey that way
4. comedy
5. Uniqueness
6. A non-obvious sexual escalation between you

If I can think of more elements to the adventure I'll post it up here... of course if you have any suggestions..... but of course, the focus is on the adventure, not getting laid. This is what I personally think we girls want: A guys that is more interested in our company than our pussies... at least one that makes it TRULY seem that way

Once again, I'd like to state that these are just my thoughts on the subject, I by no means claim that they are perfect or "the way it is". I am open to critique.


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damn ur picky... :shock:

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damn ur picky... :shock:

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lol, not true!... I'm just hard to impress. lol. When you've seen it all....


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I can think of a few, but could you give some good examples, from a girl's point of view Erin?
For me it's all in the effect your going for. If your going for the normal pu tactics which are just to make a girl like you and want to do something with you, this isn't really enough for me. this to me is more like a sweep her off her feet tactic which basicly to me symbolizes sweep her off her feet and into the bedroom.... not neccissarily romantic.

The sweep her into and adventure is a little something different. It means that you really actually seem like you're less about getting laid and more about getting into a little bit of trouble :twisted: and fun or doing something creative and unique. You focus on this rather than focusing on creating enough social bond to get laid... it's kind of like a step above creating the social bond. It's like "cool, me and this girl have something, but can she hang with my adventurous side?".... now of course you have to actually have an adventurous side to begin with but, that's kind of what I was saying.... that's what I was looking for.

A sweep her into an adventure focuses on the adventure, not getting laid... but that will almost always come after you've been adventuring... it's like icing on the cake... you can't leave the cake without icing!!! It must have icing! or else it's just a loaf of sweet, soft bread... nothing special at all. If you sweep us girls into adventure you build rapport and make us as soft as icing at your fingertips


Some examples of invites used that didn't work and why:

* Let's go to that new fancy night club. <--- while this is nice and kind of impressive that you have taste, it's boring.
* We're all going to the beach to chill, wanna come? <--- this actually worked to get some of my girlfriends out of the club, but for me it was, once again, too boring
* We're having a hotel party, you should come <--- once again worked on a few, but I mean come on, a hotel party? in Hawaii? like I've never donve that before!

Here are some examples of what could have worked but no one was ever able to use... first the "same nighter"s

* Let's go to that creepy korean hostess bar and act like we're from the Adams Family <--- now this is funny and an adventure. I'd go almost anywhere if I knew I was going to get to laugh a lot.

* There's this party being held down at Sandy's Beach (lol... how original a name for a beach eh? but it's actually one of the coolest beaches on oahu) there's going to be a (enter name of super interesting type of party.... but nothing I've ever heard before) I heard that (name of someone else I've heard of preferrably someone I'd want to meet that you could get me an introduction to) is going to be there. <--- this one shows less of your creative side, but it shows more of your ability to have cool invites and connections, which is interesting to me, especially if I know that there's more where that came from. Night club promoters usually fall into this category, but anyone whose popular can tap into their resources for some unique events

* Let's go back to my hotel, I'm only here for two more days <--- would you believe that this is the one that worked on me? However this was before The Game, and now a guy would seriously have to have ALOT of character to back it up as well as rapport. Now also granted, the guy was smokin' and I was still showing LMR just cause I'm actually really really cautious about going out with people out of the club... for the reason that I've heard of things happening to girls like what happened to me that night... but any how it worked. and that's the point right? The reason it worked was A. because very few guys had the confidence to just ask me to go back to their hotel room B. It's super naughty, scandalous and dangerous... in other words exciting. C. he gave me time constraint. Have you ever noticed how businesses are always saying "for a limited time only"? It's an influence tactic that narrows your options... i dunno, I reccomend reading Influence by Robert Cialdini... great book. D. He was fuckin smokin and he had an accent! F. Like I said before, today you would have to have a lot of report with me today to get me to do something like this. I will admit that the occassion I'm talking about was a bad choice, but I recognize that it wouldn't ALWAYS be a bad choice, I know today how to analyze and see through situations like this... pretty well.

***** These ones are for the next day or a few days hence, which is always nice because it shows that your interested in more than a fling *****

* Do you drink coffee or tea? Tea? me too I hate coffee... you wanna go for some like i dunno this weekend or something? <--- not only did we have tea a few days later, but then he went to the movies with me and my friends, then ended up getting a ride home from me (he gets around skateboarding) where I ended up going to his bedroom... (after going to some cool random places and listening to some awesome music... his and mine) in his parents house and then we got it on! this is the line that unfolded into the greatest love of my life. This guys is the REASON I study...and live the pick up arts. He is a street magician, a super good one at that. He's also an INFAMOUS heartbreaker... from what I've heard about this guy, there is no woman he couldn't seduce... he's been with hundreds and hundreds... and most of them are in love with him, if not all. Shit, last I heard he was in Germany living with the lead singer of his favorite punk band. and he told me himself! This kid is the standard to which I hold men... and no one has even come close yet. The reason this worked is because it was unique, it's something that's a little more socially elevated than like going to a club or the mall.... it's kind of like sophisticated. Which the next ones will be more like. this next one came from the same guy a few days after tea

* I'm going to the forest to go camping with soandso and soandso. <--- I honestly don't know exactly how he did this, but I had to go, I seriously almost begged him. He had made a little fort out there with his boys which I hadn't seen yet, and he's all mysterious and punk rock, and I don't know, but I had to go! And you know what it was the best date I've ever had with a guy... actually no, there are a few that I've had with him that compete equally. He's a fucking master seducer.

* Have you ever been to the contemporary art museum? we should go sometime. <--- once again something different, unique and socially elevated, which is rare, it shows you have taste in the arts which I personally like... mabey not all girls would like this, but for example for other girls you might ask if they like the museum, the aquarium, film festivals, buddhist temples, super unique sports events like fencing or something..., film festivals, poetry readings, political rallies the point here is to do something out of the box

* Have you ever been out tagging? <--lol, this one would work! It's really dangerous, yet fun... and there will always be that little mark that you guys left on the world together.. and every time she sees that, guess who she's going to think of?

Anyways, when you want to have an adventure try to include at least a few of these elemants:
1. danger
2. social elevation / non-conformity
3. more than one locale... it becomes more of a journey that way
4. comedy
5. Uniqueness
6. A non-obvious sexual escalation between you

If I can think of more elements to the adventure I'll post it up here... of course if you have any suggestions..... but of course, the focus is on the adventure, not getting laid. This is what I personally think we girls want: A guys that is more interested in our company than our pussies... at least one that makes it TRULY seem that way

Once again, I'd like to state that these are just my thoughts on the subject, I by no means claim that they are perfect or "the way it is". I am open to critique.
Reminds me of a time that I went egging houses with a girl it was sweet.LOL :wink:, but enough about that what would be more sweet is to tell about the times you took a girl out on an interesting date or ''swept her into an adventure" :roll: lol. ERIN.

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Quite true!

I often proclaim myself to be the best thing around and it doesn't matter whether other people are able to beat me at games, or even occasionally out-think me, because they know my confidence is through the roof and that I'll bounce back and continue to make everyone have fun. Letting people know where the party is and that without you, the party wouldn't be what it is, can be a huge turn on if you do it right. You don't want to be an ass about it, you want to do it in a fun and funny way, but then people will start to believe it, because it becomes true from saying it.

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Big acknowledgment to Erin, thanks! Very interesting to get ur point of view down in words and not just guys talking about it.


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