I never really understood "have to lose her before you get her".

Things sorta just clicked after a while and I finally realized that what that quote means is dont put the relationship with her above YOUR lifestyle

What hobbies are recommended for procuring this type of attitude?

do stuff you have a passion for, that YOU like. Not suggestions that people will say from a pick up forum because those are more of their ideas rather than yours

Agreed, at the same time, there are standardized procedures that can help you discover "the better you" and discover certain characteristics that you are passionate about.

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Nice thread for developing, just what i need.. I'd add strong eye contact to the body language section as well.

I'll give my definition of what is Alpha based on observing my manager at work who I consider to be the most alpha guy I know. To back this up, this guy is the manager of our warehouse and he had a recent meeting with all the staff where they basically all admitted that they spend a lot of time bitching about each other. These are all quite tough guys who spend their days lugging around heavy containers, but not entirely alpha, or they wouldn't be bitching.

I wasn't at this meeting, but apparently my manager stood there and listened to them all admitting that they tend to bitch about each other and that it creates something of a bad SPAM out there. I think I heard part of the conversation while I was walking past but basically my manager looked at them all in astonishment and just said "well, pack it in then!" Apparently none of them had another bitchy word to say for the rest of the day.

From working with this guy day in day out for about a year and a half, this is what I've learned from him about being alpha:

-the only emotion an alpha male displays is frustration or impatience with another person's incompetence. An alpha male hates having his time wasted, hates having to repeat himself, hates it when people don't understand common sense. Venting this natural frustration with other people's stupidity is what allows an alpha male to set a standard which he expects other people to follow.

-interpersonal drama/conflict is something that other people worry about and an alpha male will only get drawn into it by necessity

-an alpha male shows a strong loyalty to those around him - in all the time I've worked for this guy, he's never sold one of us out or criticised any of us to customers. One time the manager director of our company dragged the whole of HIS team into the meeting room and blasted them about mistakes that had been made. A lesser man would have felt the pressure being put on him from above and put the same pressure on those below him. Many lesser men do, but not this guy. He will let you know when you've messed up, but will not let other people's opinions affect his emotional reactions, or sell you out to others for his own benefit.

-this is sometimes a cause of frustration but whenever I want to talk to him I have to ensure I have got his attention. I have to say his name first or work it into the first sentence or else I will have said everything I want to say before he looks up and says "I'm sorry, are you talking to me?" By contrast, I can be sat with my back to him and he will start talking to me without using my name and expect me to know that he's talking to me and that I'm expected to listen and respond.

-he's often sat at his desk looking meaningfully at his screen. I don't know what he's doing. I sometimes think he would do better to get up and got out to the warehouse to see what's going on, but this is part of his persona. He is often unmoving and even when people try to get his attention he only moves reluctantly.

-He has this general persona that anyone could exhaust his patience at any time by being uncooperative or incompetent, so that any conversation you have with him makes you feel that you have to give him a clear and quick answer.

-As I said above, he shows a lot of loyalty to those around him. When people have genuine problems (i.e. not people being lazy or stupid or taking the piss) he will be concerned and attentive, although he will obviously offer a great deal of advice about how they should handle these problems (thankfully good advice, as it wouldn't really work if it wasn't).

-He knows a fair amount and can offer useful knowledge on a variety of topics (ultimately it's hard to be or even appear alpha without this).


In summary, an alpha male will support those around them with whatever they're dealing with that's real, and show very little interest in whatever they're complaining about that's not.

So... You're gay for your manager?

Just being an ass. Your manager has Alpha characteristics, but I disagree with many of the "facts" in your post. Alphas aren't socio or psychopaths, they have emotions and show them, in non needy ways. Your managers an ass hole. There's a difference.

Cheers, Confidence.

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Stop trying to teach you don't know enough or have the attributes of someone who has alpha or confidence. The value of this thread is decent but you honestly don't have a large enough understanding of the topic for you to coach on such a topic.

Proof of this lays in several areas:

-Your inability to take criticism
-Your friends (I would never ever befriend that big of a douche bag, says a lot about you)
-You still rank women, a rookie move
-Your ignorance in regards to what actual confidence is
-Your ignorance in regards to what alpha is
-Your EGOTISTICAL need to bump your thread rather than actually create quality content on a regular basis

Learn to create more content stop bumping threads on the forum when you aren't actually adding more information. You wrote ONE article in it and you think that it deserves a bump? Come on dude... Either become a productive member of the forum or get off the forum. There are enough marketing junkies on the forum, we don't need another tool that is clueless in the world of pick up and thinks he knows better than everyone else.

I don't claim to know alpha but at least I know what it is and have a core philosophy on such a thing where as you seem to idolize douche bag moves and think they are the man when in reality you have a man that will on many many occasions create horrible relationships with WAY too many people.
A poster on these forums put that up one day and boy is that spot on. Alpha certainly isn't related to you telling a woman you hope she gets a yeast infection, wtf is wrong with you? Alpha isn't about saying your gay for your manager even on a joking level when someone compliments your post. Alpha isn't talking shit to a forum member when he criticizes you when you could have used him to grant a rave review on the forum and built your reputation. Sorry bro, but the only thing you have shown on this forum is what an Alpha shouldn't act like and in doing so proved who no one should get coaching or information from.

You called that manager an asshole, well look at your behavior what would you call it???? You seem pretty clueless dude stop acting like you know shit and certainly stop acting like your above everyone. Alpha's don't need to do that because they don't have that insecurity that they need to illustrate anything for anyone. You seem to have to illustrate yourself as alpha, a very beta trait ironically from the guy sporting the name alpha confidence.

I criticized you because someone needed to make you aware of your poor behavior, post up some good ongoing content and you'll do much better to get a following than posting up a few threads and bumping it for attention. Learn to create some engaging content that is true, when someone adds to your posts don't call them gay for their manager, when someone criticizes you hold yourself appropriately. You want to build a business yet your behavior is that of a 14 year old boy going through puberty, your language pattern wreaks of it.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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The irony in your reply comes from the fact that you are also looking to build a clientele. I've followed a few of your past posts and you really seem to attack any content that is better then yours. Yet you offer a "free subscription to a core confidence" website. Presumably yours. Which makes sense that you would post a defamatory reply on mine, with a link to your website in your "signature" - want to talk about being an ass hole/Beta? As I've explicitly stated in my post, it was not an inclusive lesson. It was to give readers of this forum a basic understanding of what being an alpha is. A lesson in which you would be wise to apply. Although you may disagree with my post, writing a 3 paragraph rant, then having a link to your website on my post (which has 5k views) certainly isn't Alpha, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

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My reply came from your annoying behavior on this forum. I went through and read a couple of your posts, honestly I'm not impressed. I didn't try and market my shit at all on this thread, my signature contains some marketing but that is fair, I've given more to this forum and community than you have the ability to give. Seriously man, I have 4 threads combining for over 160k hits.... how do you feel about that and my content being so bad that I tear others down? I've tore down some guys that have come at me, yeah I held a grudge (a beta thing), but honestly I take this forum with a grain of salt, this is the least amount of my website traffic these days, I literally come here to help people. Of course all you see is the almighty dollar, you think this purely about attracting attention to me, this is a beta mindset, an alpha mindset would have actually taken this as the constructive criticism it is.

I have a fan base bro, you seem to think I don't. I told you how I built mine, by putting out good content, not just bumping a thread that already outlived it's value.

There are no links to my website in my post.... only in my signature.

I never disagreed with your post, just basically told everyone they should go to someone who is alpha to learn alpha not you. A fair assessment, you talk about the top of the food chain and all that, well you aren't even the alpha of your group. You talk about frame control then lost your frame on the first page of this forum LOL..... How's that for proof of your betaness?

The purpose of my marketing my program for free is product reviews, I know the tools and tactics in this program work, I simply need testimonials to prove it to others, pretty damn basic. Perhaps if you learn to market properly you'd understand the purpose of it.

Good luck dude, if you want to get a following write up good threads regularly don't bump threads, also add a blog and some weekly videos. Marketing is about creating good content all the time, not one time and hoping it will work out. These are great tips if you haven't realized it.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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To be completely honest Vic, that last response. Was constructive criticism. Your previous response was a blunt attack/marketing scheme. In regards to posting more "content" I plan on posting more "in depth" articles, focusing more on the science and details of it. When I do post it, ill be sure to pm you the link. Starting a fight on a PUA forum.. That's "Alpha"? ... I'm not going to go back and forth like this over my thread, if you have issues with this post, or would like to continue this discussion feel free to PM me.
(In regards to your "free" content, no content on either of the sites are free, I had a few of my trainers check out your sites to verify your information, and they stated your clearly trying to force traffic through your website with substance-less articles, and over used material. They believe your trying to get AD sponsorship, which still isn't a "free" site, in essence you're selling "your fan bases eye balls" - is that Alpha? Secondly, you aren't even offering a service, you're offering a second forum/more material to read. Thus, your service isn't comparable with mine. If you would like more information on how to effectively market your website, use google, they Sell their viewers eyeballs on a multi-million dollar level. (That was meant to be constructive criticism))

Cheers, Alpha.

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My PM box is nearly full I don't feel like wasting space for you, I'm constantly deleting, and your message taking up space is pointless.

You are still on this whole marketing kick, it was a blunt attack that wasn't related to MY MARKETING, it was related however to your marketing.

I'm not looking for ad marketing..... Just to help people, I have my overall goals if you want I'll write them for you out in the open, nothing to hide. Once again I'm here to help, including you if you haven't noticed.

Online marketing is the same for every business, regardless of the reasoning. If you sell swimming pools, sprinklers, pick up, confidence, or anything else. The tools are the same: blogs, podcasts, videos, ebooks, newsletter, articles, etc.

Offering material to read and learn is a service, don't be blind here, are you saying I'm not offering the material as a service?

If your coaches think it is substanceless I'd likely fire them and hire new ones, they don't have the experience or knowledge to be coaching in courtship (A couple of those articles were even published to books). They seem like they were looking for the negative, you don't want a coach that looks simply for the negative, look for a coach that finds information as useful for what it is. I've had coaches use my videos for coaching, I've been posted up all over the net dude, been offered an interview with huffington post..... Just saying bro, you are showing yourself to be worse and worse as well as your staff by putting my information down while I didn't say anything negative about your information only your behavior. My information has been validated several times over and between my websites, this forum, and videos combines for nearly 500k hits...... What does that say? Careful dude, you are dealing with someone who knows what they are talking about, if you tell him he doesn't have substance and doesn't know what he is talking about you make your self null and void.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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