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Lets undress the body of your post carefully, and see if we can't penetrate the veil of beautiful ignorance that clouds your passionate reply.
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You see, what just happened here was a classic case of push pull that went too far. too much push, not enough pull, as Mr. Strauss would say.
I prefer Mystery and Jeffries. But it seems you've made up your mind about your school of pick up already, and since it's below me to argue with a young lady without actually hearing her voice first, I'll just dock you a point in my book and move on to the next point...
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Now most girls could have and would have been pulled in to the "oh yeah? well..." game. Which had I wanted to play I would have replied with something like "who said you know how to tango?" or "baby, I know how to dance, I'm a stripper" (which I am) or other truly meaningless things that have no substance or character behind them and only serve to instigate more malarkey.
...which is that a conversation between a man and a woman can be completely meaningless to bystanders and yet feel just...right...when she is with the right man and feels that tangible spark of attraction between them. Should she allow herself to open up and listen intently to the sound of his voice, she would be mesmerized and have little regard for the actual content of the conversation. When experienced in such a way, a conversation can last for hours with both parties feeling an ever increasing attraction for each other, while at the same time developing an overall sense of comfort and safety that comes with making such a special connection.
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Most girls will go for this, but I had specificly told him not to neg me anymore... for the reason I didn't want to play that game... So the key here is to learn WHEN to stop, and start showing another side.
Of course, but how could I resist tempting the temptress? Women of beauty are quite common, yet when one appears with a sharp wit and mischievous glint in her eye, a real man should test her air of nonchalance to determine if she is indeed who she appears to be.
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I will say though I was very impressed by the description of his negs... that was beautiful and tantalizing... unfortunately it was followed by...

If we were to put it into Mr. Greene's terms, what you should have done would have been to send mixed signals once again.
It would appear we are simply too different to get along in any sort of relationship, you being the overzealous energizer bunny quick to jump at anything and anyone in your sights and me being the slow and steady rock turtle who happens to be impervious to the tricks of your trade. I do sincerely hope that Mr. Greene and his mixed signals do not confuse you into thinking that there is any hope of you catching me on this road of life that we both share.
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The best thing to do though would have been to take the positive route if you previously took the negative. you have to show interest with disinterest too much of one spoils it.
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apologies are great ways to disarm people. It show character that you know when to back down. For example what I would have done is to apologize for starting the "Oh Yeah?" game immediately then would have moved into something like, "it does sound like fun to play with a lady, I haven't gotten to do that in like 3 months *pout*" this works on so many levels that I can't even describe it here cause I've written way too much off the subject!
Sorry, no.
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If you guys want to continue this one, I'll be more than happy to oblige in a new thread

<3 Erin
Typing is time consuming, and my time is very valuable. To be completely honest, I don't think you can afford me sweetie. However, if you should have the courage to venture into the PUA Chat with a microphone, post the day and time (EST) you will be online, I would see to it that you are graced by my presence for a few minutes before I make my final judgments on your personality and character.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:58 am 
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Alright Whitey, I'm not in the USMC, but I do work for Uncle Sam and also wear blues on occasion. I've been stationed overseas for over 5 years and so I don't get to wear my uniforms in the states except for tech training and such, but when I get the chance, it always works wonders. All I do is walk around like I outrank everybody (which is usually the case, and I imagine civilians as people in DEP so they aren't even E1 yet), and I walk around KNOWING that I've got more skills/experiences/knowledge/strength/etc. Just the air of confidence will set you apart (even if you aren't the highest ranking guy, and being in RAP I'm guessing not) from your peers and every civvy out there. Like shooting fish in a barrel! God I miss the states!

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day1: just got used to walking around in my blues and already noticed its going to be fun

day 2: went to a technical high school for a couple senior classes. seniors are almost all 18 by this time now so hey.....lol i was in my woodland cammies....must be a marine thing that all our uniforms look good cause these 2 girls in our first class would not keep their eyes off me.


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I have a comment about the message this guy roads left, I apologize for changing the subject back to such a negative chain of events. But it's really important to address the factors here so that we can all learn from it so maybe we will have less of these negative events. I hope that this reply can end it so that we can go on discussing whats important here: PUA in a uniform : )

seriously though... if you read the message I did, you've got to ask yourself... why would someone write what this person has just written?

If a girl, or anyone for that matter says something that is offensive to you, rather than go on the defensive by justifying yourself and directing the argument at the person who has offended you, you might want to try taking a more non-chalant approach.

For example by directing the argument to an ethical point of view like: What is right? What works? what proof do you have to show that your strategy is more effective? you are then able to come out of the conversation looking like a rational, even-headed person that does not get pulled onto into self righteous, petty arguments. Rather you come off looking like you are not easily offended and you prefer to have civil discussions like a gentleman... which may not be true, but at least you don't make yourself look bad.

Instead of backlashing at an argument that has punctured holes in your strategy you should try to take the high road for example: by validating others points, where it is due, admitting where you were wrong where you can see it, pointing out ethics, or finding common ground. There are many ways to show that you are above arguing and self righteousness, this is an imperitive skill to have to gain power not only in your seductions, but in your career and family lives as well.

If your experiences have shown you the opposite then by all means disregard this message. I am only suggesting what I have found works for me... I have never once in my PUA career been drawn to anyone who could not admit when they are wrong... but then again that's just me. To me it's kind of like a boxing match... once you start hitting too hard things stop getting friendly. Unless of course you are always on the path of learning, then you are able to take the hit, learn from it, not take it personally and still be able to say good match at the end of the game. It's good sportsmanship. Same with the threads here. If we all come to learn from one another then we can take the criticism without taking it personally.

Anyhow, I never meant to criticize the above person, but I can see how he could have taken it that way, but all I was trying to do was to help everyone understand the dynamics of internet conversation and conversation in general... at least the way that I see it, I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough.

I also apologize if it appears that I am instigating more conversation on this topic, but honestly I am here to help others, and I feel that it's important to show the logic behind each others motives... it's kind of like breaking down body language.

But yet once again, it is all based on my experience and it may not work for everyone.

Recommended reading:
33 stratagies of war and 48 laws of power by robert greene
The art of war by sun tzu

Especially for you mr. new recruit... the info in these books will get you promoted real fast in the military

namaste, thanks for reading my humble thoughts and suggestiongs

Oh and I'm totaly going to post a message with the mic... but how do I do it and what topic should I do it on?


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If you were in cammies maybe they couldn't see you too well and had to stare. Haha, I know I'm the only one who laghed at that! I always liked partying with Jarheads since they have confidence that could compete with mine. Sounds like you're going to have fun. Why didn't you talk to those two girls?

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I have a comment about the message this guy roads left, I apologize for changing the subject back to such a negative chain of events. But it's really important to address the factors here so that we can all learn from it so maybe we will have less of these negative events. I hope that this reply can end it so that we can go on discussing whats important here: PUA in a uniform : )

seriously though... if you read the message I did, you've got to ask yourself... why would someone write what this person has just written?

If a girl, or anyone for that matter says something that is offensive to you, rather than go on the defensive by justifying yourself and directing the argument at the person who has offended you, you might want to try taking a more non-chalant approach.

For example by directing the argument to an ethical point of view like: What is right? What works? what proof do you have to show that your strategy is more effective? you are then able to come out of the conversation looking like a rational, even-headed person that does not get pulled onto into self righteous, petty arguments. Rather you come off looking like you are not easily offended and you prefer to have civil discussions like a gentleman... which may not be true, but at least you don't make yourself look bad.

Instead of backlashing at an argument that has punctured holes in your strategy you should try to take the high road for example: by validating others points, where it is due, admitting where you were wrong where you can see it, pointing out ethics, or finding common ground. There are many ways to show that you are above arguing and self righteousness, this is an imperitive skill to have to gain power not only in your seductions, but in your career and family lives as well.

If your experiences have shown you the opposite then by all means disregard this message. I am only suggesting what I have found works for me... I have never once in my PUA career been drawn to anyone who could not admit when they are wrong... but then again that's just me. To me it's kind of like a boxing match... once you start hitting too hard things stop getting friendly. Unless of course you are always on the path of learning, then you are able to take the hit, learn from it, not take it personally and still be able to say good match at the end of the game. It's good sportsmanship. Same with the threads here. If we all come to learn from one another then we can take the criticism without taking it personally.

Anyhow, I never meant to criticize the above person, but I can see how he could have taken it that way, but all I was trying to do was to help everyone understand the dynamics of internet conversation and conversation in general... at least the way that I see it, I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough.

I also apologize if it appears that I am instigating more conversation on this topic, but honestly I am here to help others, and I feel that it's important to show the logic behind each others motives... it's kind of like breaking down body language.

But yet once again, it is all based on my experience and it may not work for everyone.

Recommended reading:
33 stratagies of war and 48 laws of power by robert greene
The art of war by sun tzu

Especially for you mr. new recruit... the info in these books will get you promoted real fast in the military

namaste, thanks for reading my humble thoughts and suggestiongs

Oh and I'm totaly going to post a message with the mic... but how do I do it and what topic should I do it on?
Erin, after carefully reading your post and debating the merits of various points you made within it, I have come to the conclusion that you are a guy. :D

Seriously, a stripper, based in Hawaii, speaking of the 33 strategies of war, trying to get me to debate her using logic. Trying to provoke an argument through thinly veiled insults and libelous insinuations. By the way, that means you are purposely casting me in a bad light in spite of the fact that I have been nothing but courteous and generous to you, welcoming you to the forums and helping you understand that 1) the <a href="">PUA Forum</a>s is actually free so you don't have to get reputation points to keep posting (although it is pretty DLV of you to blatantly come out and ask for rep) and 2) you can actually talk into a microphone and have people on the internet hear your voice live.

I won't bother to point out the three separate points in your rant where you actually contradicted yourself, but I'm sure anyone who's had a decent fifth grade English lit course can point it out for you.

If you truly see what has happened as "a negative chain of events", you are either an internet bully looking to get his AFC kicks by trying to flame the forum, or you are an empty headed shell of a woman the likes of which I usually evaluate and discard like a used Kleenex.

Thank you for the brief entertainment, you are excused. :lol:

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hahah nice digies are shit hottt tooo . . .everything about the Marine Corp is awesome you cant go wrong with it . . .i cant wait for OCS this summer i got a few buddies who are 0321 enlisted . . . hopefully some day i can make it to that as an officer . . .hopefully got to get through OCS then TBS then OIC then we can talk lol


SIDE NOTE: Erin i sent u a request on myspace fyi

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hahah nice digies are shit hottt tooo . . .everything about the Marine Corp is awesome you cant go wrong with it . . .i cant wait for OCS this summer i got a few buddies who are 0321 enlisted . . . hopefully some day i can make it to that as an officer . . .hopefully got to get through OCS then TBS then OIC then we can talk lol


SIDE NOTE: Erin i sent u a request on myspace fyi

difference between boot camp and OCS.....you have the option to quit without legal trouble, you can use "i" "me" and "you" and you don't have to refer to everyone as sir...


and erin, i earned my Eagle Globe and Anchor, dont call me a recruit. thank you


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lol, oh shit my bad. for some reason cause of the title i assumed. a-der.


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I have a comment about the message this guy roads left, I apologize for changing the subject back to such a negative chain of events. But it's really important to address the factors here so that we can all learn from it so maybe we will have less of these negative events. I hope that this reply can end it so that we can go on discussing whats important here: PUA in a uniform : )

seriously though... if you read the message I did, you've got to ask yourself... why would someone write what this person has just written?

If a girl, or anyone for that matter says something that is offensive to you, rather than go on the defensive by justifying yourself and directing the argument at the person who has offended you, you might want to try taking a more non-chalant approach.

For example by directing the argument to an ethical point of view like: What is right? What works? what proof do you have to show that your strategy is more effective? you are then able to come out of the conversation looking like a rational, even-headed person that does not get pulled onto into self righteous, petty arguments. Rather you come off looking like you are not easily offended and you prefer to have civil discussions like a gentleman... which may not be true, but at least you don't make yourself look bad.

Instead of backlashing at an argument that has punctured holes in your strategy you should try to take the high road for example: by validating others points, where it is due, admitting where you were wrong where you can see it, pointing out ethics, or finding common ground. There are many ways to show that you are above arguing and self righteousness, this is an imperitive skill to have to gain power not only in your seductions, but in your career and family lives as well.

If your experiences have shown you the opposite then by all means disregard this message. I am only suggesting what I have found works for me... I have never once in my PUA career been drawn to anyone who could not admit when they are wrong... but then again that's just me. To me it's kind of like a boxing match... once you start hitting too hard things stop getting friendly. Unless of course you are always on the path of learning, then you are able to take the hit, learn from it, not take it personally and still be able to say good match at the end of the game. It's good sportsmanship. Same with the threads here. If we all come to learn from one another then we can take the criticism without taking it personally.

Anyhow, I never meant to criticize the above person, but I can see how he could have taken it that way, but all I was trying to do was to help everyone understand the dynamics of internet conversation and conversation in general... at least the way that I see it, I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough.

I also apologize if it appears that I am instigating more conversation on this topic, but honestly I am here to help others, and I feel that it's important to show the logic behind each others motives... it's kind of like breaking down body language.

But yet once again, it is all based on my experience and it may not work for everyone.

Recommended reading:
33 stratagies of war and 48 laws of power by robert greene
The art of war by sun tzu

Especially for you mr. new recruit... the info in these books will get you promoted real fast in the military

namaste, thanks for reading my humble thoughts and suggestiongs

Oh and I'm totaly going to post a message with the mic... but how do I do it and what topic should I do it on?
Erin, after carefully reading your post and debating the merits of various points you made within it, I have come to the conclusion that you are a guy. :D

Seriously, a stripper, based in Hawaii, speaking of the 33 strategies of war, trying to get me to debate her using logic. Trying to provoke an argument through thinly veiled insults and libelous insinuations. By the way, that means you are purposely casting me in a bad light in spite of the fact that I have been nothing but courteous and generous to you, welcoming you to the forums and helping you understand that 1) the <a href="">PUA Forum</a>s is actually free so you don't have to get reputation points to keep posting (although it is pretty DLV of you to blatantly come out and ask for rep) and 2) you can actually talk into a microphone and have people on the internet hear your voice live.

I won't bother to point out the three separate points in your rant where you actually contradicted yourself, but I'm sure anyone who's had a decent fifth grade English lit course can point it out for you.

If you truly see what has happened as "a negative chain of events", you are either an internet bully looking to get his AFC kicks by trying to flame the forum, or you are an empty headed shell of a woman the likes of which I usually evaluate and discard like a used Kleenex.



Thank you for the brief entertainment, you are excused. :lol:
I apologize to you too.. I think we both pushed each others buttons

I'm going to try and put up a voice thing, but i really cannot figure it out. I think i'm just going to you tube it for y'all... I'll make sure to be specific too.


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hahah nice digies are shit hottt tooo . . .everything about the Marine Corp is awesome you cant go wrong with it . . .i cant wait for OCS this summer i got a few buddies who are 0321 enlisted . . . hopefully some day i can make it to that as an officer . . .hopefully got to get through OCS then TBS then OIC then we can talk lol


SIDE NOTE: Erin i sent u a request on myspace fyi

difference between boot camp and OCS.....you have the option to quit without legal trouble, you can use "i" "me" and "you" and you don't have to refer to everyone as sir...


and erin, i earned my Eagle Globe and Anchor, dont call me a recruit. thank you

No . . . you cant use "i" "me" or "you" at OCS its "This Candadiate" and your right about the sir part . . at OCS we use "Sergeant Instructor Staff Sergeant "Name" blah blah blah Sergeant Instructor Staff Sergeant "Name"

and yeah at OCS you can leave whenever . . .the other part of the thing is they can kick you out too . .OCS has a 30% failing rate it sucks i go to the Military College of Vermont and 14 kids went to OCS from my school last year 9 came home from getting kicked out . . should tell u something about my school :roll:

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getting kicked out is not as scary as recycle.....trust me haha.

that monster that lurks over every recruits shoulder is named RECYCLE


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I apologize to you too.. I think we both pushed each others buttons

I'm going to try and put up a voice thing, but i really cannot figure it out. I think i'm just going to you tube it for y'all... I'll make sure to be specific too.
It's very simple really, you just join the PUA Chat and click on the camera on the upper right. This allows you to use your microphone to talk to people in the chat. This way we can all have a nice, friendly conversation with the new stripper from Hawaii. I am planning my next vacation for Honolulu and personally do look forward to asking your advice about the exotic locations in Hawaii.

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getting kicked out is not as scary as recycle.....trust me haha.

that monster that lurks over every recruits shoulder is named RECYCLE

hahaha thats very true . . recycle at OCS wouldn't be that bad as PI though because recycle at OCS means u just come back the next summer . . so at least u get a whole school year off . . but it would still suck to have to go back

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