Hey guys,

I'm relatively new to all of this and I recently started properly approaching women and applying some of the things I've learnt into conversing with women.

I went clubbing about 2-3 days ago. I approached a quite a lot of random people to 'warm up' and then I approached a group of 2 guys and 2 girls (both HB7), I asked an opinion opener and got the two girls really interested. I ignored the target and started talking to her friend. I don't remember negging the target just yet, but I eventually started talking to her and ignoring the other girl. Eventually, from the process of ignoring both of them and having both of them interested in me, they were both all over me, which was something I didn't expect considering I'm only just starting out at this.

I was eventually left with my target. We talked, I made her laugh a lot, I definitely negged her a little bit here, we got a bit physical (holding hands, she was stroking my leg etc) and we even talked about me coming round her flat and watching a horror film with her. It was all good, but here comes the problem.

There was definitely some sexual tension between us, there was a lot of eye contact, compliments coming from her end etc, but I just couldn't kiss her. I just couldn't find the right way to approach the idea or anything - bearing in mind, I have kissed quite a few women. In the end, she sent me a friend request on Facebook in the club and I got the lamest form of kiss - on the cheek. I was a bit cheeky (see what I did there) and got 3 kisses and then made a casual racist joke (being chinese and indian...although I have a relatively posh british accent) saying how we kiss each other on the cheek 4 times where I'm from. She laughed, proceeded to do so and left to find her friends. I was pretty happy considering I've never really approached anyone like that before, but I knew that there were definitely problems somewhere.
Later on I met the other girl again, we danced, but nothing happened, even though we were literally within kissing distance on the dance floor and effectively grinding on each other. I was left a little confused and disappointed.

The next day I messaged my target on Facebook, she replied once, but then after my next reply (thank god you can now see if someone is ignoring you on Facebook in chat), she pretty much completely ignored me. I didn't bother responding back. These were the last 2 messages (out of 3...):

HB7: Llool it was broken...add me on instergram and i will show you!...she is good though just in pain ...how are you? X

Me: Will do. Yeah, I'm not bad, just staring at the wall waiting in an attempt to procrastinate haha. How are you?

...Pretty bad, I know. I literally was so busy with so much shit and I couldn't think about anything to say. I guess that's why she ignored me.

Can anyone give me some tips, general help and advice on kiss-closing? If possible, based on the situation I just described. And if possible, any advice on what I should've said in the Facebook conversation?

Thank you, and sorry for the extremely long post!

~ The Chindian

Here's the thing about kiss closing. Any technique or tactic will work as long as you don't do the following:

1. Ask if you can kiss her
2. Give off an awkward vibe
3. Have bad breath

Heck, you can just grab her and kiss her. You can give her sultry eyes and move in slow to create a pre-kiss vibe. You can tell her that she looks like she wants to kiss you. You can tell her that you want to kiss her. Just avoid those three big no-no's above and don't be afraid to actually kiss her.

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It's albout confidence.

If you were in kissing distance on the dance floor sexual tension high then you just have to go for it. Strong eye contact and do not break it. Tri-angle gaze (that is, look at her left eye, then her right eye, then her lips) repeat this and look for any indication that she is giving you the go ahead to kiss.

Just think to yourself, I've never met this person before if I never see her again it's no big deal so I can either kiss her and get a kiss or shit out and not get a kiss (Which you never had in anyway) so basically nothing to lose.

Also with your messages, you should have told her your busy/told her what you were doing, make something up to show your living a fun life. Telling her your staring at a wall doesn't make you seem very fun. And she'll see you as boring.

Good luck man.

I found this very helpful, never heard it before. Nice one

J

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