I have really enjoyed reading this thread. As a woman who's boyfriend left her to go back to his ex who exhibits all the signs of an emotionally manipulative woman, I have to ask you guys why? What is it about these women who suck you in, when you could be enjoying a normal healthy relationship?

As discussed earlier, emw do not normally show signs of emw in the beginning. But that is part of their game. If guys fail to notice that in time the BS starts when the guy is on hook. They play the game, and guys fall for it. Simple as that

Edit: btw awesome thread

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first of all i would like to thank mack for this post. excellent reading. this topic really hits the spot for my story too.

i have a question for you guys. do you think that most such manipulative, emotionally unstable girls are promiscuous ? my gf was exactly like your girls and she was promiscuous.

Mack had some really good point. I'm currently in a LDR with this girl whom I met a while back during summer, she has to finish her semester out of state. She's a great girl, she does everything to please me and has good relationship qualities. However, after reading your post, I do feel she's a bit emotionally manipulative. Her dad hasn't talked to her in years so I start to think she's just using me to fill the void and all the attention she didn't have considering she called me daddy every time we had sex. She even told me she has never felt wanted before.

- She usually made me feel bad and dope on her. Cries, pouts, etc...
- We had phone sex about 2-4 times a week but now she keeps doing this shit that pissed me off so bad where she said she's turned on but when I escalate to phone sex, she said she either tired or sleepy.
- We were being playful with our baby name. I agreed on her but she ignored mine and said she doesn't like any of the names I picked.
- We do everything she wants but when it comes to my liking, she brushed it off.
- I told her my rape fantasy and she said it freaked her out. I told her it's who I am, you can take it or leave it. She cried for a while then agreed to it since she couldn't see herself breaking up with me.
- She got upset if I told her to text/call her soon but I took longer.

My guts is telling me to break it off and run away as far as I can. But I'm not sure since I do have the tendency to sabotage my own relationships in the past and I do love her. Maybe I'm blinded by all the emotions, so an outsider's perspective would be a great help here.

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I recently broke up with a girl I dated for 8 months. It was super hard, and is still painful. But looking back, she meets a lot of these standards of a manipulative woman.

I can recall her being absolutely nuts about me in the beginning, and as soon as I started to open up to her and reciprocate, she turns it off, starts acting cold and treated me like her property.

The trick is recognizing these things early on, it'll save you a lot of heartbreak.

I have read throught this entire post & it is quite interesting.
I dont believe I am with a manipulative person although everyone is one way or another at different levels but she is not at the extreme of the OP.

The things that get me is, she never ever appologises for anything & I get the blame for everything.
She also tends to exaggerate the bad times while also exaggerating the "good old days" which were never actually as good as she remembers.

Its a merry go round I am about to get off. Some parts of me think that I have gotten so used to all the crap that I have forgotten who I actually am inside.

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Manipulative women are insecure for sure.

Usually, they are immature and self-centered.

For those guys having a relationship with this kind of girl, decide if its still working out on you.

If not, why the hell suffer if you can still get out of that relationship.

Holy, well this has given me a lot of insight.

I had a girlfriend and we dated mostly for 2 years. We broke up once and in that 2 week-ish span i fucked 2 girls. She has only found out about 1 of them (2 months later) we break up. I say i did not do anything again 4 months later she finds out but thinks I only kissed. We now broke up and after a 3 week freeze out she gave me she calls me and says things like I dont even think about anyone else, only you.
So for about 2 weeks things were going good and then Saturday another random as fuck freeze out after I had seen her for an hour she says things like "idk what we are doing, what are we when i tell people, I feel as though Im stupid for coming back to you etc."

She feels as though it was cheating because we were talking and about to get back and cant get the "cheating" fact out of her head. She is SO jealous even before all of this VERY clingy and i honestly believe some of those qualities have and are now starting to rub off on me (ever so slightly).

Like I feel as though I love her and cant be without her blah blah blah, but a part of me also feels bad if I let her go because she has had a shitty life (Mom was on drugs, dad not around, lived in foster homes most of her life).

I know she talks to guys, but wont let me talk to girls gets so jealous. Always has mood swings idk there is so much to say hahaha

Anyways, If I was to let her down easy how do I do so, although i feel as though I would give anything to be back with her.

I just want to ask some questions over whether these are signs of an EMW, been with her 9 months, she has never been with anyone else in anyway (I am her first kiss) she is 22 and I am 22...

1. She makes her life seem so much more amazing than it is... she exaggerates how much she likes people, things or stories, and how amazing they are.

2. She will never admit to being jealous, and shows no signs of caring a lot about me. but will make a huge effort to impress me on certain occasions, like birthdays

3. We spent 3 months long-distance (as she had to see her parents during the summer, as they are in a different country) and I have never felt so close to her in that time. She messaged me loads (even when I didn't reply). She wanted to speak to me so badly and showed so much interest. Whilst being together (not long distance) she has never showed the same determination to be my girl.

4. She's done things then blames it on me somehow (and says to me sometimes, "nothing is ever YOUR fault").

5. She has never been with anyone else, and claims she could never be with anyone else or that she is not easy in the slightest.

6. She is spoilt, rich dad.

7. She loves people liking her. She is a very people person. Craves attention and wants to be the person everyone loves.

8. Never really apologises.

9. She has said to me before, that she still feels like a kid sometimes.

10. She doesn't show much effort to want to please me in bed. Doesn't want to swallow, doesn't chose to go down on me randomly (its always me kind of forcing it). It's usually her receiving pleasure.

11. I feel completely responsible for our relationship. I know it should be 60/40 or 70/30 in the guys favour, but I feel it's 100/0. this means yes I am in control, but I am also responsible for everything that happens. There's a lot of pressure for me to be 100% alpha (everyone has negatives, like a few beta traits, as I am human, and any negative she sees, she comments on).

What is meant by Gaslighting?

After being in a relationship for 1.6 years im pretty sure my ex was an emotionally manipulative woman.
She just sucked the value from the relationship like a leech she would just take and never give.
She lived with me and after a year I noticed that she has never actually done anything for me, only in the beginning.
When i confronted her, she made me seem like I am a dick. *I never had to do anything for her* but she literally
gave nothing. She wouldnt even respect the things that bothered me. I ended up kicking her out of the house and taking her
back a week later. After that she became distant and wouldn't even want to sleep over anymore and spent all her time with her *family *every single day.

She wouldn't call me until she went to work at night. Even worse is that she would tell her mom all our problems and seem like the victim. The mom started to dislike me and I became even more of a needy bitch after that. Eventually I get a text saying *i feel depressed * and she fucking disappears. After all that my brain still misses her -_- .

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Hey, I'm asking for info about MY EX who has borderline personality disorder aka she is emotionally manipulative. Basically, I want to turn keep things alive with her so I can sex her up. Upon realizing she is an EMW my emotions for her are pity at most and indifference at the least.

Anyway, I'd really like to know how you managed this girl. So far, my girl and I were together for only two months, she said she loved me and I reciprocated the feelings and then she dropped me via text message a couple days later acting really cold. I didn't react at all I just said OK and went no contact cuz I was so shocked until I realized what she actually was.

As of now she is posting shit on facebook/pinterest about how she is feeling terrible and heartbroken and white knight betas and girlfriends are rushing to comfort her via text and facebook likes. It's been a week since she acted cold and texted me. Now I know the facebook stuff is bait.

So my question is where do I go from here to bring her into my circle of sexy slut slaves so I can bang her again? Do I ignore till she contacts me or do I just re initiate? Should I act all alpha and unphased or respond emotionally with I LOVE YOU or something like that. Thanks for reading and responding, hope all is well.