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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:04 pm 
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I saw a girl I knew at Gamestop the other day and for some reason I felt I had to talk to her, not that I wanted to but that I just had to.

I started off by saying "Oh hey, what's up. You still work here? I never see you here anymore." at that point I felt like she thought I was a stalker because I said that when I never even talk to her or hang out with her.

Then I walked over to her like I was going to say something, paused, then looked down at the ground, slowly turned around and walked over to my friend without saying a word to her. I don't know why but my mind just froze with anxiety and there was absolutely nothing that I would let myself say.

I feel like this happens with any girl who is over an 8 in looks for my type. How do I prevent this from happening again?


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First problem, hitting on employees. Second problem, asking questions which have obvious answers. You ask a worker if she still works there? No, she got fired and she just comes back to shop there while wearing the Gamestop shirt.

See, all of that was AFC stuff. You need to come at her with real game otherwise be relegated to AFCville.

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I understand that, but what can I do to improve myself, or prevent myself from being that awkward again?


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You need to be self-correcting. Which means that you need to be able to identify when you screw up, then avoid doing the same things in the future. Learn how to recognize patterns, behaviors, and responses. Anticipate what the girl might do or how she might react to the things you say.

It's hard to game girls at stores. They are working and busy, and they are paid to be nice to you even when you aren't saying and doing the right things to attract them. So it's hard to calibrate and attract them, because you may be getting false IOIs and doing things wrong you aren't aware of. Also, do you think some hot chick at a VIDEOGAME store isn't getting hit on by a ton of geeky losers all day long?!? I'm sure she's got some pretty serious defense mechanisms built up for that. I don't even know what you'd have to do to get her number, but I'd say be really cocky, funny, and demonstrate extremely high value and confidence. Those bullshit AFC lines aren't going to do anything for you bro.

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You need to be self-correcting. Which means that you need to be able to identify when you screw up, then avoid doing the same things in the future. Learn how to recognize patterns, behaviors, and responses. Anticipate what the girl might do or how she might react to the things you say.

It's hard to game girls at stores. They are working and busy, and they are paid to be nice to you even when you aren't saying and doing the right things to attract them. So it's hard to calibrate and attract them, because you may be getting false IOIs and doing things wrong you aren't aware of. Also, do you think some hot chick at a VIDEOGAME store isn't getting hit on by a ton of geeky losers all day long?!? I'm sure she's got some pretty serious defense mechanisms built up for that. I don't even know what you'd have to do to get her number, but I'd say be really cocky, funny, and demonstrate extremely high value and confidence. Those bullshit AFC lines aren't going to do anything for you bro.
I was gonna say the same thing. I would have to agree with him. Geeky guys go in there all day and when they see a hot girl,they go crazy and don't know what to do. You have to show some value in yourself.

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it is no big deal, so what you froze up, try talking to her again if you want, dont mention what you did before.

get more experience talking to girls in general, and you will be more comfortable around women and will not freeze up.

Note: if my mind goes blank, i just say something like 'well i think of what to say, your very hot, my minds gone blank etc.' (not in a beta way, i know 'beta' isnt very helpful)


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Good Job Look man your looking at the negative when there is definately positive to come out of this situation! You had the nuts to walk up to her!!! plus you felt like you HAD to talk to her. Your inner pua was telling you to chase after what you wanted and instead of bitching out and just going about your day, you actually did something about it! c'mon you dont do that often right!!! feel that dangly thing between your legs... its your nuts and you grew a pair and decided to do something to give them the satisfaction they have been dying to recieve!


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Good Job Look man your looking at the negative when there is definately positive to come out of this situation! You had the nuts to walk up to her!!! plus you felt like you HAD to talk to her. Your inner pua was telling you to chase after what you wanted and instead of bitching out and just going about your day, you actually did something about it! c'mon you dont do that often right!!! feel that dangly thing between your legs... its your nuts and you grew a pair and decided to do something to give them the satisfaction they have been dying to recieve!
What that guy said. The only place you fucked up was where you walked away. So you said something stupid? So what. Roll with it, hold a strong frame. I actually use an intentional fuck up like that as an opener. You could have just said "Ha I totally thought you were my friend Katie (or whatever).....so whats your name?" Handshake, continue gaming. Can use a quality from the made up friend to qualify the new girl, follows on nicely in conversation.

And in other news today I realised I make up imaginary friends to game girls :roll:


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do you feel you have been doing better before hand and your game has slipped?


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do you feel you have been doing better before hand and your game has slipped?
Yes. Lately I've been to unmotivated to go out, and I feel like I've lost my will power to just game girls without feeling inferior to them. Don't know why I feel that way, but most likely cause I'm desperate from not getting with any girls in 7 months.


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thats no biggy man, as tony robbins says when its winter you can always look forward to summer - you will get better man just keep approaching and doing your thing!

I personally hit a massive high I was opening everyone and closing pretty well to, then I hit a low where my confidence dropped, what i did was reassessed myself, asked myself some serious question, got back on my path as a man and gave my life life purpose again, so my mood wasn't constant on my success with women and then the success with women came again naturally.


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thats no biggy man, as tony robbins says when its winter you can always look forward to summer - you will get better man just keep approaching and doing your thing!

I personally hit a massive high I was opening everyone and closing pretty well to, then I hit a low where my confidence dropped, what i did was reassessed myself, asked myself some serious question, got back on my path as a man and gave my life life purpose again, so my mood wasn't constant on my success with women and then the success with women came again naturally.
Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it. I have one more question though. Does pick up help you to transform you into a man? or does it just get you lots of girls?


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thats no biggy man, as tony robbins says when its winter you can always look forward to summer - you will get better man just keep approaching and doing your thing!

I personally hit a massive high I was opening everyone and closing pretty well to, then I hit a low where my confidence dropped, what i did was reassessed myself, asked myself some serious question, got back on my path as a man and gave my life life purpose again, so my mood wasn't constant on my success with women and then the success with women came again naturally.
Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it. I have one more question though. Does pick up help you to transform you into a man? or does it just get you lots of girls?
No PU doesn't transform you as a man...it may not even get you girls. Its "concept" is that it gets you girls, however thinking outside the box- working on becoming a man takes out the middle man.


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pick up for my introduced me into the self development community, now i get girls and i haven't read or learned a routine or line in nearly a year, I've worked on myself as a person to become a better more attractive man (a natural). Don't get me wrong tactics and techniques do have there place, I wouldn't of known where to start without them but i saw a REAL improvement when i moved onto natural and inner game.

Hope that helped man.


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