How do you sarge solo at a bar if you're not drinking?
I can't imagine doing that, and I can't imagine the bar keeping you there if you're not buying anything.

For a while, I was drinking just water at bars, but when the bartenders got used to seeing me, they weren't thrilled with me getting water all the damn time...

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SOUL_FIGHTER!

I'm eighteen (and nine months now), and I can ABSOLUTELY assure you that going there and not drinking is NOT a problem! As long as you're giving value (in forms OTHER than buying drinks).

I went to this bar in SW Michigan with the SOLE intention of NOT talking to anyone (which is IMPOSSIBLE, I've figured out), and I started conversing with everyone! People'd walk by me, smile, and be like "You're fun! What's up with this notebook you've got there?" And I'd smile, think of a thought I wanted to project into the conversation ("Punk" was my word then), and tell them "I'm hear to build confidence...just taking notes." You'd better believe that the result was people surrounding me at that middle section of this bar.

Essentially people opened ME. I was in my own group! I have people like David D and Style and Mystery to thank for the confidence I had, and people started asking to join MY group--even though I was the only one in it!

Which is an interesting point. You CAN be your own group if you want to--if you let yourself be. You don't need other people to validate you--or even have other people PERCEIVE that your validated. You can be your own man, and make this night work! It's awesome.

You'd be amazed at the Sexy Girls (an HB8.5 with raven hair comes to mind) who would walk right up and talk with me.

Granted - I have the belief system installed. I have emotional confidence that I'd acquired over hours and hours of audio programs and forum posts and arguing with family. I'd even left my house and slept in my car to avoid negative influences.

But even without a perfect belief system -- doing this will CHANGE your beliefs and get you results! Simply because people will like you no matter what!

As long as you're giving value.

Easy.

You are TOTALLY fine going to bars alone. Just make sure you're giving value. And what I'm about to tell you is what any PUA can do.

An example is the bartenders, bouncers, people next to me smiled and felt included.

I shared stories and made the bar more interesting.

Did The Cube with people.

Got into a group pretty much straight away--'cause that's exactly what other people intend to do when they go there!

And I talked with that sexy waitress at the end of the night when everyone left! It was awesome! We were alone together and she said "Let's talk later."

That was like Strauss's Playmate of the Year for me at the time though...didn't follow through with that.

Anyway, you can do it, SOUL_FIGHTER. This post is for you. Solo-sarging is one of the most productive and fun things you can do. And the reason it's so much more productive is because you don't drag along the limited beliefs of those you might take with you (my guess, if you DO go to bars with friends or have done so at some point, is that they're not Neil Strauss or Gambler or Mystery or Chief right now--yet).

It's awesome, and I've done it many times at many places. It will be the best experience of your PUA-life, right before banging that hot waitress or that chick with the raven hair (ahhhh! You know that'd be good!).

Again, this post is for YOU, Friend. Get going! It's sweet!

Your Friend,

~ Surrep

Well if you are sober and don't drink, you don't have much choice. If the barkeep has a problem with getting you a water, you might suggest he go back to college and get a real job.

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Sarging alone has its benefits, as Surrep pointed out above.

But there is a strong argument for going out with your buddies even if they aren't PUAs themselves.

Firstly, when I'm with my buddies I have a better time than when I'd just stand there alone in the middle of a club or bar. So going with friends means youre already worked up into enjoying yourself, now you have confidence that you are ready to use on sets. If you go by yourself you have to actually work up that youre having a good time and this will impact your confidence.

Secondly, social proof: its easier to be an alpha male when youre with friends. If you show with body language that you are the leader of your group then sets will notice that. 1 I use a lot that works is talking with your friends and then walking off, they will then follow you. Sets see your friends following you and assume you are the leader. Then you can go open sets as the leader.

Thirdly, this is more for beginners. If you don't have the confidence to follow the 3 second rule and you suffer from thinking about your approach to much then sarging alone is going to be difficult. But when you're with friends you can be talking to them, see a set you want to open, continue talking to your friends but think of how you will structure the first minute or 2 of conversation with the set. Once you know what you will say you can break from your friends and open. When you're alone you don't have the time to think of what you're going to say.

Finally, there are other, non-PUA benefits to going out with friends: they can buy you drinks, reduce the cost of getting home (e.g sharing a cab), you'll be safer if a fight breaks out and, most importantly, THEY ARE YOUR FRIENDS! YOU SHOULD ENJOY THEIR COMPANY, NOT SEE THEM AS A HINDERANCE! Even if your are trying to improve your game

^ that is not the right way to sarge alone, that is lack of skills the boldface part. You can enjoy yourself by yourself and talk to people on the bar or club, a lot of dudes that are low value dudes, will lower your value as well guilt by association.
^ That is overrated...
^ i like that, but going alone DOES NO MEAN YOU DO NOT TALK TO PEOPLE OR HAVE FRIENDS IN THE PLACES, going alone is not being loner, you guys are misunderstanding the concept.. Going alone means driving by yourself, being independent, doing what you want to do without a committee deciding where to go and what to do. ^ you can do all of that by going alone, again going alone is not being antisocial-loner...

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I sarge/scout? for girls by myself, I want a mate to help me"wing man" but I can handle things myself. It would be very nice to have a wing man though and get other ideas/thoughts on things. Problem is they are IMO pussies.

Yes sarge along is fine.

It's what a old mentor taught me. You are not a loser/loner if you do things yourself, because you are independant. You are only a loser/loner if you act like a loser and do loser things, and be very needy.

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing.

skills360!

I really like your breakdown of our posts -- it really gets to the point...and makes things right!

There was really not a single thing I disagreed with--I would love to sarge with you at some point.


Your Friend,

~ Surrep

Thanks dude, as long as you can take my horrible spelling and grammar, i am not trying to prove anybody wrong or pretend i know more... What happens is i know from years of experience 2+2=4, so when people say 2+2=5 I am just trying to see if they can get 2+2=4.... lol! anyway sarging alone, sarging with people is Irrelevant do whatever makes you happy, as long as you approach and open and learn is irrelevant, just through out the years i fell in love with sarging alone while becoming a regular in clubs and having a weird social groupssss of strangers... Hey dude, if you are ever in South Florida pm me...

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hey guys here is a post on the subject with my break downs:

here-vp700148.html#700148

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I will! [Insert FTC, neg, and calibration] I'll see about getting a flight down there toward the end of this year!

We will make what's most important to you happen in the world.


Your Friend,

~ Surrep.

Spanish Twins...

When I was 18 years old I visited family near a resort village in Spain. At night the beaches were full of partying kids my age. I was alone and spoke little Spanish. For the first week I was wishing my wingman was there and I was too afraid to approach alone. Finally I used a totally fake opener that I was looking for my drunk friend who stumbled off from the club. (they hadn't seen him obviously, he's not real) so I said bye, thinking "shit what do I do now?"

I had a brilliant idea - 5 minutes later I reapproached using 2 of the girls names I had learned and said my friend had called and he's safe on the hotel bathroom floor They all laughed and I had the attention of the group. I told them that my girlfriend had just left me - which was true, then lied that my friends brought me on vacation to cheer me up.

From then on, no more lies I just let Natural Game take over (although I think the lies were necessary since I was alone and didn't want to lose value)

A girl gave me her number (European numbers are confusing as fuck) and invited me to come with them to a club. I told her I'd catch up with them later. I met more people then met up with the girls at the club.

To my luck I reconnected with the girls. Two of them were twins and they each took an arm as they told me with their sexy Spanish accents "you need cheering up, tonight you fuck".

I ended up kiss closing with a lot of kino one in the club, then her twin brought me home with her that night.

Long story short, going out alone might be the best thing that ever happened to you. But bring your A-game

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value - effort = attraction
-Gambler

not everyone is cool enough to sarge alone, thats why they advocate against it. Personally I always have my best success when I go out alone compared to when I go out with friends.

Why do you need to be "cool" to sarge alone?

You're always on your own in pickup anyway. What are you gonna do if your buddy isn't there and you see your perfect girl walk past? Accost a passer by on the street to help you?

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LOl! cool is subjective, you may think i am cool, some other people may think i am the biggest loser... In your head you should think you are the coolest mothefucker alive, fuck what anybody else thinks..

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Thats what I am saying, I am not talking of that fake cool (in the eyes of others). I am talking about actual cool (self confident enough to go alone and not worry of "what would other think that I am alone")