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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:14 am 
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6/10 interactions I have end after the opener and some conversation. I try to keep the conversation interesting and keep the girls on their toes but no matter how well I've done that I can't get them to stay.

The 4/10 interactions that last more than a few minutes usually end up in the same place - me losing interest and in the end looking low value

I don't understand what's going on here, is my personality really that boring?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:58 am 
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Man, are you using realistic openers? ...If you are a Geography teacher, guess what use a geography teacher opener, it will be easier to go to the next story...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:11 am 
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6/10 interactions I have end after the opener and some conversation. I try to keep the conversation interesting and keep the girls on their toes but no matter how well I've done that I can't get them to stay.

The 4/10 interactions that last more than a few minutes usually end up in the same place - me losing interest and in the end looking low value

I don't understand what's going on here, is my personality really that boring?
Don't try too hard. Don't be afraid of silences, just look into her eyes like you're expecting her to entertain you if you don't know anything to say. If she doesn't try to keep the conversation going you can eject as far as I'm concerned.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:32 pm 
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the more natural the better. if it seems like you are trying too hard, the faster she will want to get away.

If it seems like you are actually interested and are just an outgoing guy in general, she more she will want to open up and talk more. women are tired of the same narrow minded, socially inept men.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:16 pm 
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Agreed. Just be honest.

"Honestly, I think you're really cute, and I always make it a point to talk to cute girls."

Girls LOVE honesty. They want you to do it with bravado and style.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:14 pm 
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I agree with Czech. You need to show that you're interested in her sexually, or she won't understand what you want, then will feel uncomfortable.

Soon after your opener, you need to start flirting to indicate your intentions.


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[quote="Hunter_Foxe"]I agree with Czech. You need to show that you're interested in her sexually, or she won't understand what you want, then will feel uncomfortable.

Soon after your opener, you need to start flirting to indicate your intentions.[/quote]

This.

Too many times I've had women give me the "So...what the fuck do you want?" look.


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where is it you're opening? are you doing day game? or are you in a club ? if it's day game then don't start making it sexual, drop in something about a shared interest, push for a date or a phone number, don't start dribbling over badly you want her in the bedroom. it's just empowering her.


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in most going-out situations the girls you find are just looking to escape their daily lives and have some fun. their looking for some stimulation and informality.

make some ballsy/cocky/funny compliments...idk like "i love going out for the chance to meet such beautiful and interesting woman, but i guess you'll do;)" or go with "god that can't be your natural face, tell me you've had plastic surgery...her answer..ah, yes i had to get a penis reduction when i was younger but thats all"

idk, i just try to make them laugh/feel comfortable and be there more for them than myself. that mentality brings me good energy and takes pressure off myself to try and get numbers. come off with confidence and approach them uniquely/ballsy.

if i feel like things are dragging on too long, i eagerly tell her i got to run but i want to see her again (then go for number). quick getaway, my fav, leaves em guessing especially after a good impression. right after an approach the first thing girls will ask themselves is "when is this guy gonna leave?". i like to do a quick, bold, compliment as i walk by to get to my "more important friends".. "omg i knew there was a reason i walked this direction;) i'll be back in a sec, order some drinks;)" walk away so they know i have other things to do, then come back. it's non-intrusive, shows your interested, and if they don't come your way, they're excited you remembered and came back to talk to them. make them laugh.


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Aspiring - write out a example conversation including your opener, the girls responses etc. up and until they leave. Then we can actually give real advice, at the moment we have nothing to go on, so every response on this thread is purely theoretical.

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