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Why is this topic still here....


Without steroids you will never be to big.

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My answere
I think a lot of guys are being too funny about this topic. I've been struggeling with this topic for a while now and i think i can give you a solid answere.

First of all i'm a guy thats not too serious about working out but does gain musscle easilly. My close relatives however have very serious training sceduals and even own some of the national powerlifting records.

Being too big
1. There is definitely a point where you are too big. What happens in my club game is that i come across aggressive and dominant. What happens it that girls notice you a lot, but instead of looking at you, giving you approval to approach, they will look away and follow you in the back of their eyes. In other words girls become less flirty.

2. A second thing that happens is that many girls become preoccupied and look at you as nothing but a brainless iron pumping monkey. Instant blowouts will happen as well as a prolonged period where they will test if you’re a normal person. This makes the interaction less natural and a little more stressed.

3. Notice if the women close to you (mother/sister/gf) make notes about your proportions. They will say things like;
- Your head looks smaller
- Wow you grew a lot (instant reaction when they see you)
- Ahghhh you don't fit any of the clothes i buy for you
- Look at those shoulders they are ........

However if you have a main girl at this point she will feel extra safe around you and tell you this. She will say; I’m not afraid to go into that neighborhood with you. So if your in the "keeping a girl" you can work out like a maniak because being inproportunate is not that bad. Look at it like this; when your a stranger to the girl she gets freightened by you but when your clearly on her team 1-2 dates she feels more safe around you.

What you could do at this point is drop a lot of body fat. Well... this changes some things. You look leaner in the face but your proportions remain disturbed. However i noticed there is a subconscious part of a woman’s brain that does look at you more as sex material. But on the other hand i feel they do not take me very serious. It's not that they will jump at you when you go out. But once youve isolated her and sex is clearly in the air some girls get a little more wet from your dominat outlook.

I recommend that if you reach this point to take a nice break and lose some muscle. I think being pretty masculine does not improve your game since you need more time to get her comfortable.


The shape that does compliment your game

I always remember my weight when i was a lean semi-sportive16 yo kid that had a good/normal diet. The proportions i had back than are somewhat perfect. They are what women look for. But if like me you do like working out i think adding 4-8 kg of dry muscle makes you even more attractive.

You should be able to wear the same shirt as you'd wear when you did not work out. But your silhouette would be a little more masculine and some flashes of your mussels shine through when you walk by. Just some....

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HI

My VERY strong opinion on this topic is to look like any Abercrombie model with a six or eight pack. Simple as that, they're never too big.

I used to date a photo model with a background in fitness. She was crazy about body builders and dated some professional builders before me.
She told me that all the huge body builders got laid like rock stars, and that she was sick and tired of that scene. Makes you think that maybe it's not such a bad thing to be "too big" after all.

Yesterday I nailed a hot 5" latino girl that looks like a little barbie doll in my hands. I'm 6"2 and about 255 lbs these days. The bigger I get, the more girls I get. Could be a coincidence though. I have some friends that score more girls than me who are not nearly my size, some are skinny, some are relatively fit without being very big and some are kind of fat actually. Personally I like being the size of a mid-sized car, but it really doesn't do all that much for my game. It helps with some girls, but it's no substitute for real game.

If you can feel her pelvic bone you're too big.

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Bow chika wow wow

Wrong ANSWERS I've seen above (just skimmed through it all)

There is a FACTUAL, STATISTICALLY, SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN measurement of being too big or too skinny...

I HAVE really forgotten what it was called...but it's a number that you would have to calculate based on your height and weight.

It is a formula they use to make Cereal boxes, and computers, and chairs and so on...jeez I can't remember what it was called...

BUT, basically try googling around for an equation that is most pleasant to a persons eye, (I know for a fact they do it with cereal boxes) the height and length and width and everything...

There was a seduction site out there that advertised it and sold it (i think it has to deal with BMI (but NOT JUST BMI)...it comes up with how big your arms should be, your chest, your abdomen, and stomach, your ass, your wrist, and neck and shoulders and calfs, your legs and thighs EVERYTHING...

Then you basically work out and eat healthy stay within the BMI (and then stay within x)

Where x is the number of inches and centimeters your arms would be, and neck, and shoulders, the width of your chest and stomach and so on...

IT IS GOLD. Have you seen a pic of some girl for ex. and it was just perfect? I mean from the shoulders, to breasts, to hair length, neck, thighs and buttucks and so on?...(our view since we want women (i presume) is distorted...but basically there is something there that I CANT remember for SOME DAM REASON (REALLY not happy about it)...

You get the point...? Formula for looking perfect...statistically and factually proven by scientists (I can't argue that 2+2= 4) ...thats how it basically works...just follow it, keep your stomach at x inches and so on and you'll be fine...

IF ANYONE REMEMBERS THIS PLEASE PLEASE SHARE... I know it's out there, I would love to get myself back to the reg. look or perfect.

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As dumb as this may sound, it exists...you can be too big and too small and so on...I'll try to find the details again and share.

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ALSO...forgot to mention...

IT IS NOT HOW YOU LOOK...I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH...

ONCE AGAIN...IT IS NOT how you look....it is how you make her feel!

If you're big and wants you because of it...chances are she can want a skinny guy just as much, AS LONG AS the skinny guy can still make her feel secure and protected.

IT IS NOT HOW YOU LOOK...it is how you make her feel!
Looking good helps but it's not as important as people think...and if you think otherwise, you have a long way to go in the PU world.

Just today, literally 3-4 hours ago I went shopping with my sister (HAHA) as dumb as (at aeropostle) it may sound and gay or whatever...doesn't matter what you think...

She's talking to a friend she ran into, and I just shop and buy clothes...
had 1 of the girls in the store that workd there help me choose pants and such, she loved how ppl just look at things and put them back where ever, played on that, and negged and so on. Within 5 minutes of doing what I had to do, the girl is holding all my clothes...I'm walking around choosing things and asking for input, disregarding her input and so on...told her no, (authority), made her run to the back of the store for my size of a 30 by 32 slim straight fit, and bootcut...and well by now the store has a waiting line at the cashier that reaches the door...

What happens?...I walk right over to the cashier (cutting every single person)...the girl basically put all my clothes on the cashiers desk, gave her a hug and kiss on the cheek for the help and hospitallity (you can just ask for these things these days...it's called being bold...or whatever, it still works)...I take her number, so that I can help her choose some clothes later in the week, (must return the favor She walks off to the bathroom or something (she waves and hugs bye after i'm done at the cashier)

Who's the cashier?... HB 8.5 next to HB 9. Small talk while she's ringing things up, told her how nice the place was, and how I loved the way she didn't make me wait on line (especially when the girls behind me were wondering and discussing who I am and why I can just cut about 30 different people on the line, and as to why the store employees were soo nice to me). I had about 7 bags of clothes...Looked into the cashiers eyes while talking and told her that she's definitely someone who likes taking risks, made mention of the unhappy customers behind me..and told her how her heart must be racing since she's such an "adventurous girl" in the work environment. The girls behind me get a bit louder and upset, so I turn around and yelled

"Hello Ladies and Gentlemen of this glorious DAY! I know some of you ( and now people have all shut up, and are just staring at me) have been waiting for ages, on this line, and I know many of you have better places to be, possibly with a loved one and well I have to say that today is the day! The day we'll drive maybe half an hour to get home or less to your friends and family but... BUT! Today's the day I finally meet perfection! You've all found someone, or have someone in mind, but me... I needed the time to view the scenery and so I must say, I greatly appreciate your patience and caring for myself, and how you all happily and somewhat annoyingly haha, gave up your position on the line and me cut through destiny so that I can meet (the cashier is watching and just finished ringing the items up) this lovely cashier behind me!"

That's about all I said, and people stopped doing what they were doing and fussing about how I cut the entire line...the cashier blushed, told her she's been a great host to a great party, paid for my items and turned around to walk out...

Guys on the line with their gf's or husbands and wives, and couples and so on or friends just complemented me on my speech, told me how they would never have the guts to do what I did and the girls behind me that were originally fussing hi-fived me for the show...I took a bow, said thanks and ADIOS!
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What is a trait that was brought out? Being bold and funny...interesting...

No better way to show you or explain it other then to show it in person...but it's how I made everyone feel (like crap at frist to cut them all) to happy that they helped me fulfill my destiny ( to talk to the cashier???Hhaha?)

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SOMEONE said Adonis INDEX....THAT RIGHT THERE IS IT...the thing I couldn't think of....that I mentioned in the post before...and yes abercrombie models or such are a good thing to look forward to ...the meed adonis I think or it's variation.

Something tells me most of you guys wont be mistaken for having too big of a brain.