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A slightly different tract for the original question; how do you deal with opening in a country where you don't speak the language?
"Do you speak English?"
Fair enough! What sort of success rate do you tend to get?
It's pretty good, when they say something about my "strange" accent I say that I am from a small village in Texas, I have lots of fun.
It's hard to say but the rate is about 1/3, counting those with boyfriends and this stuff.

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Also, if it changes anything, I am the India kind of Indian, like Jesse from simplepickup.

How are we viewed in Central Europe and such? I know Indians are hated in the UK

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Swedish women in particularly like exotic guys because they get sick of tall, handsome, blond, blue-eyed Swedish guys, no matter how crazy this sounds. Women want what they can't have, so I guess that's the principle.

I'm half-Japanese myself and I think a lot of other Asians I have met fail at pickup because of the pre-conceived idea that white women just don't want Asian guys sexually. It's simply not true, no matter what women say on YouTube or Yahoo! answers. Women just don't like insecure guys, so if you go in there with the attitude that they will probably reject you because you're Asian, they will see you are weak and reject you. But really, it's not the women who reject Asian guys, it's that these guys reject THEMSELVES and ASSUME the woman won't be interested, so they put her on a pedestal and fail every time.

I can't tell you the number of times I've laid a girl and she says "wow I've never been with an Asian guy before, I've honestly never really found them attractive. But you seemed... different."

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When you count Asians do you include Indians?

See YOU ASIAN GUYS have different stereotypes. You are seen as the innocent type that women might mess around with so being an alpha asian dude is a major turn on for women and an alpha asian guy can probably do better than a lot of other races.

Indian men, thing is, people throw us in with the arabs. If we are quite, then well, women don't like that. If we are loud and arrogant, oh look, he is just another loud and arrogant Brown kid.

Here in America, I am SHOCKED to read all this crap about women hating Indian males since most women have hardly ran into any of them but I guess word spreads fast?

I just don't get where this whole Indian being a disadvantage thing originated from, I really don't. Personally, I would think it be an advantage if anything.

1. We wrote the kama sutra

2. A lot of us are well off and get paid a decent sum

I mean I just don't get why all over the forums they have this whole women hate Indian men notion. I have managed to do alright in the deep south area of America but women here have hardly run into Indian men.

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The deep south of America can be racist, so it's a tough place to be if you're Asian, but nothing is impossible. There are stereotypes about Indian men and I think some stupid white women may think of them as akin to Apu from The Simpsons, before they give you a chance and get to know you. I personally love Indian culture, particularly Bollywood movies.

But I can only repeat what I said before, do NOT listen to what women say on the internet. In fact, do not listen to what women say about attraction AT ALL, they give the WORST advice when it comes to pickup, because they do not understand the science behind their own emotions. I'm talking about hard-wired things in their brain and genetics. If you ask most girls what they want in a guy, most of them say "Oh I just want an honest genuine nice guy", then you watch them making out with the biggest asshole in the club.

I'm not an asshole, but I'd rather be an asshole who gets laid than a nice guy. Never give a woman what she asks for, show them that your needs come first and that you don't give a shit what she wants.

I have dated supposed "racist" women before and I promise you it's not as hard as you think once you understand the psychology behind racism.
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I just don't get where this whole Indian being a disadvantage thing originated from, I really don't. Personally, I would think it be an advantage if anything.

1. We wrote the kama sutra

2. A lot of us are well off and get paid a decent sum
Don't even bother to mention this to women you are gaming. Why? Because it shows you have a chip on your shoulder, like you have something to prove. Reverse the roles; it is the WOMAN who should be proving herself worthy to date YOU, not the other way round. By justifying what your culture can offer, you are trying too hard to impress women. I never mention anything about my Asian heritage, unless a girl brings it up. I've even f-closed girls without them even asking about my ethnic background. It's only an issue if you make it an issue. If a girl asks you about it, treat is as genuine curiosity. Curiosity leads to attraction.

Women are not attracted to money itself, they are attracted to the BEHAVIOUR of men who have wealth. If they were only interested in the money, then why do rich women still date guys? If it was only money they were after, there would be no need for them to date men!

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I see where you are coming from but as I have said, when you see very few Indian men having success, you began to question things often.

I have heard of Black and Latino men having success in Europe but not a word about Indian men, and I have heard some things about Asian guys killin it in Scandinavia.

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I see where you are coming from but as I have said, when you see very few Indian men having success, you began to question things often.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjA-tj_d4bo[/youtube]
lead coach, for pua training, you say indian guys are hated in the u.k., the main coach for the top pickup company in the u.k. is infact indian

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDfgsTqUFE[/youtube]
lovesystems daygame coach, designed the lovesystems daygame program, he is also from the u.k. and has been considered by some as one of the best daygame guys in the world to learn from, also indian

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5KLXE7z-1I[/youtube]
regular indian dudes picking up in india

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(indians and asians with white girls)

attractionmethods main coach is indian

rsd used to have a coach working for them that was indian
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I have heard of Black and Latino men having success in Europe but not a word about Indian men, and I have heard some things about Asian guys killin it in Scandinavia.
where do you hear all these things from? do you ever actually test this shit out for yourself?

there are tons of black guys who you can see at the clubs every week here where I live, they go out together in big ethnic cliques, just to cold approach, and usually they support each other in meeting women, and the dude that got me into pua is spanish and sleeps with more girls then any guy I have ever met, yet there are girls I know who would never date a black guy just cause he is black, and there have been girls I have met that only excusively date black guys, it is highly likely the same thing goes for spanish guys

do you know how often you see indian guys out at the clubs cold approaching here? I am not sure if I have even seen it, I have seen lebs here and there, but not sure if I have even seen and indian guy out clubbing, like seriously not ever

how many indian guys do you see out at the clubs doing the same?, how many indian guys actually cold approach?, how many indian guys actually try?, the indian guys I have met through work, all are 30+, have wives and seem traditional and religious, the three of them are all friendly and polite, but they are uptight as shit and seem anti social

it is easy to see how you or others could get the impression that indian guys arent killing it somewhere in reguards to women, when you never even see indian guys trying to kill it

are you going to be some huge pimp and not get rejected ever when you are of average status? no... neither will any other guy from any other cultural background, you have to do the leg work to get the lays or improve your status among other men, if you are not more attractive then the vast majority of men, what makes you think the vast majority of women will want to just drop their panties for you with no questions asked, and no effort on your side or resistance on theirs?

sure there are some stereotypes around indian guys especially in the west that portrait them as conservative guys, that work hard, are friendly, polite and have silly accents, but there are stereo types around just about every ethnicity in the world, indians are far from being protrayed as the least attractive people on earth, they have intigrated into nearly every culture, and besides that everyone has a taste in the opposite sex, and if you ask alot of different women, you will see preferences change from girl to girl

instead of worrying about the stereotypes, break them and stop worrying so much about what other people think, attractive guys get girls, reguardless of ethnicity, if a girl thinks you are cool and cute and she is available, you are in, that is all there is too it

if you are not classicly seen as "good looking" or not percieved as cool due to stereo typing by one specific girl, so what, you can try it on with the next one, dont take a girls taste in men so personally or as some sort of racism or slant agaisnt your ethnicicty that every girl of her nationality all of a sudden shares with her, it is not

if some other indian guy came along who was cooler, better dressed, better looking, and more confident then you, he would probably get that girl that you were unable to get, instead of trying to find something that is out of your control to blame your circumstances on so you can feel helpless about your situation to rationalize not doing your best to better the situation, why dont you just fight for your life with everything you have to make it work at all costs, break those stereo types you believe exist, meet as many girls as you have to, to make your goals happen and just become that cooler, better dressed, better looking, and more confident indian man, and be fucking proud of who you are

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Easy, tell them you're from Canada.

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pumpington, repped you because I had to

now only if I could get some details on France, Sweden, and Italy and such countries, I have no interest in British women at all

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